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Mannslayarr
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Postby Mannslayarr » Thu May 17, 2018 2:25 pm

Taurgha wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:Is class not an identity?

One that actually matters ..and even then, it is rather relative as is every identity. The only identity is one's self really, but we have to set some variables for our societies to work ..it's that sometimes, we overdo it as humans and start arguing about the stupidest spooks around.
You see class is about one's economical state, something that determines in large part one's quality of life. Being gay? Well, if you live in a country that it's legal to be gay and to marry and adopt and live like in general everyone else ...well, not so much.
The thing however is that by eliminating economic injustice in a libertarian setting, injustice in general is lowered as well, since a well-fed human is not a grumpy human and a not-grumpy human is not going to be a bully to other humans. See?

Class doesn’t matter. Once a white man, always a white man.

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Postby Imperium Corturnix » Thu May 17, 2018 2:25 pm

Irou wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Why are you so obsessed with ethnicities anyway? It doesn't lead to anything productive.

Because its fun classifying certain breeds of humans

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Postby New Emeline » Thu May 17, 2018 2:25 pm

Mannslayarr wrote:
Taurgha wrote:One that actually matters ..and even then, it is rather relative as is every identity. The only identity is one's self really, but we have to set some variables for our societies to work ..it's that sometimes, we overdo it as humans and start arguing about the stupidest spooks around.
You see class is about one's economical state, something that determines in large part one's quality of life. Being gay? Well, if you live in a country that it's legal to be gay and to marry and adopt and live like in general everyone else ...well, not so much.
The thing however is that by eliminating economic injustice in a libertarian setting, injustice in general is lowered as well, since a well-fed human is not a grumpy human and a not-grumpy human is not going to be a bully to other humans. See?

Class doesn’t matter. Once a white man, always a white man.

look, if this is a thing you need to sort out could you do it somewhere else

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Postby Fahran » Thu May 17, 2018 2:26 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Fahran wrote:Camp is way too fun of a word for instance.

?

Look down and then remember that my people were pioneers of gallows humor.

New Emeline wrote:look, if this is a thing you need to sort out could you do it somewhere else

He's mocking white supremacy by turning the premise on its head. He's essentially using their arguments against them. He's going a little far though at the moment.
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"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

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Postby Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 2:27 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Taurgha wrote:To be honest I haven't really researched US liberal idpol nonsense that much, I just used an inaccurate pseudo-ideology I just made up, that sounds similar to some theories that've been sprouted by some "progressives". All Identity politics are a cancer to me.

All politics are identity politics. (Where are you when I need it, DI?)

Filthy nihilist. What annoys me the most is that I know you're right.

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Postby New Emeline » Thu May 17, 2018 2:27 pm

Fahran wrote:
New Emeline wrote:?

Look down and then remember that my people were pioneers of gallows humor.

ohhhhhhhhhh

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Postby Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 2:28 pm

Mannslayarr wrote:
Taurgha wrote:One that actually matters ..and even then, it is rather relative as is every identity. The only identity is one's self really, but we have to set some variables for our societies to work ..it's that sometimes, we overdo it as humans and start arguing about the stupidest spooks around.
You see class is about one's economical state, something that determines in large part one's quality of life. Being gay? Well, if you live in a country that it's legal to be gay and to marry and adopt and live like in general everyone else ...well, not so much.
The thing however is that by eliminating economic injustice in a libertarian setting, injustice in general is lowered as well, since a well-fed human is not a grumpy human and a not-grumpy human is not going to be a bully to other humans. See?

Class doesn’t matter. Once a white man, always a white man.

Well, yes ..if you're a white man, you're a white man. What's your point?

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Postby Fahran » Thu May 17, 2018 2:29 pm

Taurgha wrote:
Mannslayarr wrote:Class doesn’t matter. Once a white man, always a white man.

Well, yes ..if you're a white man, you're a white man. What's your point?

False. Trans-racialism!

Actually, there was a whole body of literature written on passing during the Harlem Renaissance.
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"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

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Mannslayarr
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Postby Mannslayarr » Thu May 17, 2018 2:29 pm

Taurgha wrote:
Mannslayarr wrote:Class doesn’t matter. Once a white man, always a white man.

Well, yes ..if you're a white man, you're a white man. What's your point?

My point is that whites and men are evil, and should be wiped off the face of the earth.

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Postby Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 2:30 pm

Hah! I fucking remembered you (I think) ..Kvatchdom, weren't you a BCB fan? In the MLP thread?

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Postby Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 2:30 pm

Mannslayarr wrote:
Taurgha wrote:Well, yes ..if you're a white man, you're a white man. What's your point?

My point is that whites and men are evil, and should be wiped off the face of the earth.

Oy Vey.

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Postby Fahran » Thu May 17, 2018 2:31 pm

Taurgha wrote:
Mannslayarr wrote:My point is that whites and men are evil, and should be wiped off the face of the earth.

Oy Vey.

This is cultural appropriation and I'm offended. Oy gevalt!
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

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Postby Mannslayarr » Thu May 17, 2018 2:31 pm

Fahran wrote:
New Emeline wrote:?

Look down and then remember that my people were pioneers of gallows humor.

New Emeline wrote:look, if this is a thing you need to sort out could you do it somewhere else

He's mocking white supremacy by turning the premise on its head. He's essentially using their arguments against them. He's going a little far though at the moment.

Actually, I used to believe in this stuff unironically, and it makes a comeback every so often. I’m on to many layers of irony, and I can’t get out.

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Postby Fahran » Thu May 17, 2018 2:32 pm

Mannslayarr wrote:
Fahran wrote:Look down and then remember that my people were pioneers of gallows humor.


He's mocking white supremacy by turning the premise on its head. He's essentially using their arguments against them. He's going a little far though at the moment.

Actually, I used to believe in this stuff unironically, and it makes a comeback every so often. I’m on to many layers of irony, and I can’t get out.

Mannslayarr? I love that name. It makes my inner feminist giggle hysterically.

I always thought you were a man for some reason. Weird.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

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Mannslayarr
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Postby Mannslayarr » Thu May 17, 2018 2:32 pm

Taurgha wrote:
Mannslayarr wrote:My point is that whites and men are evil, and should be wiped off the face of the earth.

Oy Vey.

Jews are ok, unless they’re white. I’m not anti-Semitic

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Postby Imperium Corturnix » Thu May 17, 2018 2:33 pm

Taurgha wrote:
Mannslayarr wrote:My point is that whites and men are evil, and should be wiped off the face of the earth.

Oy Vey.

Goyim you've been reported to the SPLC, for racism.
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Postby Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 2:34 pm

Fahran wrote:
Taurgha wrote:Oy Vey.

This is cultural appropriation and I'm offended. Oy gevalt!

Would Jew forgive me?

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Postby Mannslayarr » Thu May 17, 2018 2:34 pm

Fahran wrote:
Mannslayarr wrote:Actually, I used to believe in this stuff unironically, and it makes a comeback every so often. I’m on to many layers of irony, and I can’t get out.

Mannslayarr? I love that name. It makes my inner feminist giggle hysterically.

I always thought you were a man for some reason. Weird.

Ha ha. Yeah.
i am. Mannslayarr is a puppet of WLO, representing my inner demons, and represents my phase when I legit wanted white men to die, even though I’m half white and also a male. Those days still haunt me.
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Postby Fahran » Thu May 17, 2018 2:35 pm

Imperium Corturnix wrote:
Taurgha wrote:Oy Vey.

Goyim you've been reported to the SPLC, for racism.

The singular is goy. Yes, I'm judging.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

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Postby Jebslund » Thu May 17, 2018 2:38 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Irou wrote:Because its fun classifying certain breeds of humans

"breeds"?
dude, wtf

It's not inaccurate. Nothing wrong with it unless you're one of those people who thinks humans are so special as to need special terms just for them...
Jebslund is a nation of kerbals ruled by Emperor Jebediah Kerman. We reject tyranny, believing that rights should be protected, though we also believe said rights end where the rights of others begin.
Shockingly, we *do* use NS stats, with the exception of lifespan.
Singular sapient: Jebslunder
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Note: When a verb can logically only be done by the sapient using/piloting/holding the object in question, then the appropriate demonym for the number of sapients is used.

Capitalism, Socialism, and Communism are ECONOMIC SYSTEMS. Stop conflating them with political systems.

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Postby Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 2:38 pm

Fahran wrote:
New Emeline wrote:?

Look down and then remember that my people were pioneers of gallows humor.

New Emeline wrote:look, if this is a thing you need to sort out could you do it somewhere else

He's mocking white supremacy by turning the premise on its head. He's essentially using their arguments against them. He's going a little far though at the moment.

Well, if he's mocking white supremacy, I don't see why he quotes me then. I don't consider any race superior. That's as stupid as like saying Asian Timber Wolves are better than European Timber Wolves ..how? In what way? Math contests?

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Postby Imperium Corturnix » Thu May 17, 2018 2:41 pm

Fahran wrote:
Imperium Corturnix wrote:Goyim you've been reported to the SPLC, for racism.

The singular is goy. Yes, I'm judging.

Stupid Goy, you've all been reported.
I swear, this is like another shoah...
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Mannslayarr
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Postby Mannslayarr » Thu May 17, 2018 2:41 pm

Taurgha wrote:
Fahran wrote:Look down and then remember that my people were pioneers of gallows humor.


He's mocking white supremacy by turning the premise on its head. He's essentially using their arguments against them. He's going a little far though at the moment.

Well, if he's mocking white supremacy, I don't see why he quotes me then. I don't consider any race superior. That's as stupid as like saying Asian Timber Wolves are better than European Timber Wolves ..how? In what way? Math contests?

I’m not mocking it though. Did anyone read what I said about these crazy ideas I’m spouting? I used to believe it, now I don’t, but am haunted by it. I try to mock it, but In a world as radicalized and absolutist as ours, I can’t escape the grasp of my idpol phase.

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Postby Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 2:47 pm

Mannslayarr wrote:
Taurgha wrote:Well, if he's mocking white supremacy, I don't see why he quotes me then. I don't consider any race superior. That's as stupid as like saying Asian Timber Wolves are better than European Timber Wolves ..how? In what way? Math contests?

I’m not mocking it though. Did anyone read what I said about these crazy ideas I’m spouting? I used to believe it, now I don’t, but am haunted by it. I try to mock it, but In a world as radicalized and absolutist as ours, I can’t escape the grasp of my idpol phase.

The Ironic internet politics were a first good step for many people to actually get rid of most of the ridiculous and dividing idpol agendas ..however, I think it's high time for many Ironic ideologues ..nazbols, syndies, tankies and whatnot all of these people, to stop being truly ironic and for once actually look themselves in the mirror and say what they truly believe. I bet most of that group are depressed and dissolutioned nihilists born in the late 80s and early 90s who see no hope and everything being shit and no "ideology" being nothing more than a fucking excuse ( I know I do) ...you know what? It's the truth. So let's try and change it for once.

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Postby Fahran » Thu May 17, 2018 2:59 pm

Imperium Corturnix wrote:
Fahran wrote:The singular is goy. Yes, I'm judging.

Stupid Goy, you've all been reported.
I swear, this is like another shoah...

I'm going to go bang my head into the wall until I stop muttering mean Yiddish things to myself in response to your comment. It'll probably take awhile. Thankfully, I know like fifteen doctors from synagogue and three of them want to get me under a chuppah.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

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