NATION

PASSWORD

Fascism

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Kvatchdom
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8111
Founded: Nov 08, 2011
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kvatchdom » Thu May 17, 2018 2:14 pm

Taurgha wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:The fuck is the alt-left? If you knew what Fascism was you wouldn't be comparing angry lefties to it.

American Liberals ...and I don't care being called a normie if that makes you feel special. Although I take pride in being a huge nerd of political theory ..and you can always go read what I believe Fascism to be, it's not that far back.

American Liberals are not left-wing. They do not support a single left-wing policy outside of virtue signalling welfare and healthcare reform.
boo
Left-wing nationalist, socialist, souverainist and anti-American.

User avatar
Fahran
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 19444
Founded: Nov 13, 2017
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Fahran » Thu May 17, 2018 2:15 pm

Fenriis wrote:
Fahran wrote:And the promotion of degenerate political ideologies. :p

Actually, BLM gets a pass if they follow the Black Panther model minus the socialism.

We are the anti degenerates.

Nope. We conservatives have that mantle. If anything, fascism is more degenerate than liberalism in that it degenerates society more rapidly.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

User avatar
Taurgha
Attaché
 
Posts: 70
Founded: Jun 25, 2015
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 2:16 pm

New Emeline wrote:string theory is an aspect of theoretical physics, so i don't know how you could tie that to lesbians at all

To be honest I haven't really researched US liberal idpol nonsense that much, I just used an inaccurate pseudo-ideology I just made up, that sounds similar to some theories that've been sprouted by some "progressives". All Identity politics are a cancer to me.

User avatar
Kvatchdom
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8111
Founded: Nov 08, 2011
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kvatchdom » Thu May 17, 2018 2:16 pm

Taurgha wrote:
New Emeline wrote:string theory is an aspect of theoretical physics, so i don't know how you could tie that to lesbians at all

To be honest I haven't really researched US liberal idpol nonsense that much, I just used an inaccurate pseudo-ideology I just made up, that sounds similar to some theories that've been sprouted by some "progressives". All Identity politics are a cancer to me.

Is class not an identity?
boo
Left-wing nationalist, socialist, souverainist and anti-American.

User avatar
New Emeline
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6275
Founded: Jan 16, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby New Emeline » Thu May 17, 2018 2:16 pm

Taurgha wrote:
New Emeline wrote:string theory is an aspect of theoretical physics, so i don't know how you could tie that to lesbians at all

To be honest I haven't really researched US liberal idpol nonsense that much, I just used an inaccurate pseudo-ideology I just made up, that sounds similar to some theories that've been sprouted by some "progressives". All Identity politics are a cancer to me.

you could at least pick a real one that people have advocated for

lesbian string theory just sounds funny

User avatar
Taurgha
Attaché
 
Posts: 70
Founded: Jun 25, 2015
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 2:17 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:
Taurgha wrote:American Liberals ...and I don't care being called a normie if that makes you feel special. Although I take pride in being a huge nerd of political theory ..and you can always go read what I believe Fascism to be, it's not that far back.

American Liberals are not left-wing. They do not support a single left-wing policy outside of virtue signalling welfare and healthcare reform.

Oh, we agree on that ...I don't consider them to be left, or liberal for that matter. But they use that label for themselves.

User avatar
Fahran
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 19444
Founded: Nov 13, 2017
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Fahran » Thu May 17, 2018 2:17 pm

New Emeline wrote:string theory is an aspect of theoretical physics, so i don't know how you could tie that to lesbians at all

> String
> Tie
> Lesbians

Interesting.
Last edited by Fahran on Thu May 17, 2018 2:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

User avatar
Taurgha
Attaché
 
Posts: 70
Founded: Jun 25, 2015
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 2:17 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Taurgha wrote:To be honest I haven't really researched US liberal idpol nonsense that much, I just used an inaccurate pseudo-ideology I just made up, that sounds similar to some theories that've been sprouted by some "progressives". All Identity politics are a cancer to me.

you could at least pick a real one that people have advocated for

lesbian string theory just sounds funny

And is that bad? Politics should be more fun.

User avatar
Kvatchdom
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8111
Founded: Nov 08, 2011
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kvatchdom » Thu May 17, 2018 2:18 pm

Taurgha wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:American Liberals are not left-wing. They do not support a single left-wing policy outside of virtue signalling welfare and healthcare reform.

Oh, we agree on that ...I don't consider them to be left, or liberal for that matter. But they use that label for themselves.

Good, good. But antifa and BLM are not American liberals.
boo
Left-wing nationalist, socialist, souverainist and anti-American.

User avatar
Cekoviu
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16954
Founded: Oct 18, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Cekoviu » Thu May 17, 2018 2:18 pm

Taurgha wrote:
New Emeline wrote:string theory is an aspect of theoretical physics, so i don't know how you could tie that to lesbians at all

To be honest I haven't really researched US liberal idpol nonsense that much, I just used an inaccurate pseudo-ideology I just made up, that sounds similar to some theories that've been sprouted by some "progressives". All Identity politics are a cancer to me.

All politics are identity politics. (Where are you when I need it, DI?)
pro: women's rights
anti: men's rights

User avatar
Mannslayarr
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 42
Founded: Jul 28, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Mannslayarr » Thu May 17, 2018 2:18 pm

New Emeline wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:But why tho? It’s not entirely a joke either...

it's boring and uncreative. you're just taking a strawman and blowing it up to ridiculous proportions in a way that's so entirely removed from reality it doesn't form any sort of meaningful satire

But white men are legitimately oppressive and evil, and it’s an actual political statement that is not entirely false.

User avatar
New Emeline
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6275
Founded: Jan 16, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby New Emeline » Thu May 17, 2018 2:18 pm

Taurgha wrote:
New Emeline wrote:you could at least pick a real one that people have advocated for

lesbian string theory just sounds funny

And is that bad? Politics should be more fun.

but you're holding it up as an example of something bad
bad things should sound bad

User avatar
New Emeline
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6275
Founded: Jan 16, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby New Emeline » Thu May 17, 2018 2:19 pm

Mannslayarr wrote:
New Emeline wrote:it's boring and uncreative. you're just taking a strawman and blowing it up to ridiculous proportions in a way that's so entirely removed from reality it doesn't form any sort of meaningful satire

But white men are legitimately oppressive and evil, and it’s an actual political statement that is not entirely false.

:roll:
if you get some sort of weird enjoyment out of this, i'm not going to stop you

User avatar
Cekoviu
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16954
Founded: Oct 18, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Cekoviu » Thu May 17, 2018 2:19 pm

New Emeline wrote:string theory is an aspect of theoretical physics, so i don't know how you could tie that to lesbians at all

When a woman and a particle love each other very much...
pro: women's rights
anti: men's rights

User avatar
Fahran
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 19444
Founded: Nov 13, 2017
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Fahran » Thu May 17, 2018 2:20 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Taurgha wrote:And is that bad? Politics should be more fun.

but you're holding it up as an example of something bad
bad things should sound bad

Camp is way too fun of a word for instance.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

User avatar
Mannslayarr
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 42
Founded: Jul 28, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Mannslayarr » Thu May 17, 2018 2:20 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Taurgha wrote:To be honest I haven't really researched US liberal idpol nonsense that much, I just used an inaccurate pseudo-ideology I just made up, that sounds similar to some theories that've been sprouted by some "progressives". All Identity politics are a cancer to me.

All politics are identity politics. (Where are you when I need it, DI?)

All politics should be, but unfortunately people aren’t exactly receptive to killing, even when you do it to the right people.

User avatar
New Emeline
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6275
Founded: Jan 16, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby New Emeline » Thu May 17, 2018 2:20 pm

Fahran wrote:
New Emeline wrote:but you're holding it up as an example of something bad
bad things should sound bad

Camp is way too fun of a word for instance.

?

User avatar
Irou
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 431
Founded: Jan 28, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Irou » Thu May 17, 2018 2:20 pm

Jebslund wrote:
Fenriis wrote:Afro shaped is the wrong word but very curly and black. The man had brown hair on the picture

I used to know a black man at the Gospel Rescue Mission who had natural dark red hair. Super curly, yes, but red. Not the only case of such I've seen or heard of, either. Depending on how much time the Emperor spent in the sun, it's also possible the sun may have bleached his hair, as sometimes happens.

As for the paining not being curly, take a look at the bust. His hair would almost certainly have been done up for the painting, so it's entirely likely it's pinned or otherwise held in place, giving the illusion of it being straight. Then again, several of the pictures my Google search turned up showed tribal Africans with straight hair, so...

The guy with orange hair probably has Nilotic Blood
4th Positionist, Occultist, Mongrel, Neo-Confederate, Ethnopluralist and National Bolshevik
How I see myself in 10 years


Pro: Occult, Esotericism, Technocracy, Collectivism, Pantheism, Sharia in the mid east, Identity Politics, Eugenics, Paternalism, National Bolshevism, Christian Economics, Setting Hollywood and Washington D.C. on fire, D.O.T.S.,Traditionalist school
Anti: Anarchism,Progressivism,Individualism, Antifa, Liberalism,Free market, , passiveness, Materialism,Atheism, Centrism,, Urbanism.
Myers Briggs: INTP-A
8values: State Socialism
IQ: 132.6
EQ: 47
Empathy Quotient: 23

User avatar
New Emeline
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6275
Founded: Jan 16, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby New Emeline » Thu May 17, 2018 2:21 pm

Irou wrote:
Jebslund wrote:I used to know a black man at the Gospel Rescue Mission who had natural dark red hair. Super curly, yes, but red. Not the only case of such I've seen or heard of, either. Depending on how much time the Emperor spent in the sun, it's also possible the sun may have bleached his hair, as sometimes happens.

As for the paining not being curly, take a look at the bust. His hair would almost certainly have been done up for the painting, so it's entirely likely it's pinned or otherwise held in place, giving the illusion of it being straight. Then again, several of the pictures my Google search turned up showed tribal Africans with straight hair, so...

The guy with orange hair probably has Nilotic Blood

Nilotic? Isn't that a Pokemon?

User avatar
New Emeline
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6275
Founded: Jan 16, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby New Emeline » Thu May 17, 2018 2:22 pm

Why are you so obsessed with ethnicities anyway? It doesn't lead to anything productive.

User avatar
Mannslayarr
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 42
Founded: Jul 28, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Mannslayarr » Thu May 17, 2018 2:23 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Mannslayarr wrote:But white men are legitimately oppressive and evil, and it’s an actual political statement that is not entirely false.

:roll:
if you get some sort of weird enjoyment out of this, i'm not going to stop you

Real talk, I used to legit believe this shit, and after deradicalizing myself, I began to start using it ironically, but I think I’m in a weird state where I am so deeply entrenched in irony, I forget I’m being ironic, and start spouting this as though I truly believe it.

User avatar
Taurgha
Attaché
 
Posts: 70
Founded: Jun 25, 2015
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 2:23 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:
Taurgha wrote:To be honest I haven't really researched US liberal idpol nonsense that much, I just used an inaccurate pseudo-ideology I just made up, that sounds similar to some theories that've been sprouted by some "progressives". All Identity politics are a cancer to me.

Is class not an identity?

One that actually matters ..and even then, it is rather relative as is every identity. The only identity is one's self really, but we have to set some variables for our societies to work ..it's that sometimes, we overdo it as humans and start arguing about the stupidest spooks around.
You see class is about one's economical state, something that determines in large part one's quality of life. Being gay? Well, if you live in a country that it's legal to be gay and to marry and adopt and live like in general everyone else ...well, not so much.
The thing however is that by eliminating economic injustice in a libertarian setting, injustice in general is lowered as well, since a well-fed human is not a grumpy human and a not-grumpy human is not going to be a bully to other humans. See?

User avatar
Irou
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 431
Founded: Jan 28, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Irou » Thu May 17, 2018 2:23 pm

New Emeline wrote:Why are you so obsessed with ethnicities anyway? It doesn't lead to anything productive.

Because its fun classifying certain breeds of humans
4th Positionist, Occultist, Mongrel, Neo-Confederate, Ethnopluralist and National Bolshevik
How I see myself in 10 years


Pro: Occult, Esotericism, Technocracy, Collectivism, Pantheism, Sharia in the mid east, Identity Politics, Eugenics, Paternalism, National Bolshevism, Christian Economics, Setting Hollywood and Washington D.C. on fire, D.O.T.S.,Traditionalist school
Anti: Anarchism,Progressivism,Individualism, Antifa, Liberalism,Free market, , passiveness, Materialism,Atheism, Centrism,, Urbanism.
Myers Briggs: INTP-A
8values: State Socialism
IQ: 132.6
EQ: 47
Empathy Quotient: 23

User avatar
New Emeline
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6275
Founded: Jan 16, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby New Emeline » Thu May 17, 2018 2:24 pm

Irou wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Why are you so obsessed with ethnicities anyway? It doesn't lead to anything productive.

Because its fun classifying certain breeds of humans

"breeds"?
dude, wtf

User avatar
Taurgha
Attaché
 
Posts: 70
Founded: Jun 25, 2015
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 2:24 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Taurgha wrote:And is that bad? Politics should be more fun.

but you're holding it up as an example of something bad
bad things should sound bad

I don't believe it is bad, I believe it is idiotic.

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Forsher, Gallade, Neu California, Spirit of Hope, Vadterland, Vistulange

Advertisement

Remove ads