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Postby New Emeline » Thu May 17, 2018 1:54 pm

Fenriis wrote:
Fahran wrote:And the promotion of degenerate political ideologies. :p

Actually, BLM gets a pass if they follow the Black Panther model minus the socialism.

We are the anti degenerates.

lol sure you are

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Postby Torrocca » Thu May 17, 2018 1:55 pm

Fenriis wrote:
Fahran wrote:And the promotion of degenerate political ideologies. :p

Actually, BLM gets a pass if they follow the Black Panther model minus the socialism.

We are the anti degenerates.


>wants to murder minorities
>anti-degeneracy

suuureeeee :^)
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Postby Fenriis » Thu May 17, 2018 1:56 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Fenriis wrote:We are the anti degenerates.


>wants to murder minorities
>anti-degeneracy

suuureeeee :^)

No you guys however are pro genocide. What minorities am I going after to murder then? The answer is none
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Postby Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 1:56 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:
Taurgha wrote:Good point, you're absolutely right.

I can only see some kind of correlation because of violent behaviour with BLM and Antifa but violence is not fascism.

Who talked about violence ..I'm talking of the "If you aren't with us, you're against us" tactics and strict political lines of all said groups. That's what makes them quasi-fascist ..not violence, though violence is a natural outcome of fascism most of the time, as is with all totalitarian ideologies.

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Postby New Emeline » Thu May 17, 2018 1:56 pm

Fenriis wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
>wants to murder minorities
>anti-degeneracy

suuureeeee :^)

No you guys however are pro genocide

I'm not

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Postby Fenriis » Thu May 17, 2018 1:57 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Fenriis wrote:No you guys however are pro genocide

I'm not

He is

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Postby New Emeline » Thu May 17, 2018 1:57 pm

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New Emeline wrote:I'm not

He is

afaik he was being sarcastic, so

also, don't say "you guys" then. just say "you"
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Postby Fenriis » Thu May 17, 2018 1:58 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Fenriis wrote:He is

afaik he was being sarcastic, so

He called for the genocide of though criminals and also in a much older post was after a genocide of Japanese and German people

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Postby New Emeline » Thu May 17, 2018 1:58 pm

Fenriis wrote:
New Emeline wrote:afaik he was being sarcastic, so

He called for the genocide of though criminals and also in a much older post was after a genocide of Japanese and German people

second one was sarcasm m80

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Postby Kvatchdom » Thu May 17, 2018 1:58 pm

Taurgha wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:I can only see some kind of correlation because of violent behaviour with BLM and Antifa but violence is not fascism.

Who talked about violence ..I'm talking of the "If you aren't with us, you're against us" tactics and strict political lines of all said groups. That's what makes them quasi-fascist ..not violence, though violence is a natural outcome of fascism most of the time, as is with all totalitarian ideologies.

No it doesn't? Not accepting outsider ideologues is a thing almost every single group has in some bits. Not everything is fascism my dude, fascism is a very specific ideology.
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Postby Irou » Thu May 17, 2018 1:59 pm

Taurgha wrote:
Irou wrote:Please dont compare us with them were so different from them the only thing we have in common is ideological vigor

But isn't Political Correctness in a way a mean to achieve uniformity in society? Isn't Identity politics in general aiming to create a gag rule on who is and who isn't what, essentially labelling everyone as the same in difference and equal by default? Equality does not exist in nature, nature is unequal ..if we refuse to accept that we will not progress in our societies, in fact we will create more unfair and unjust societies that do not see who are the really disadvantaged people. I mean, when a Black Gay Woman claims she's as much in a vulnerable position as a white straight male cripple, that's wrong. And it's the same even if said man is not a cripple ..let's learn to divide by class and not race, sex and sexuality. Identity politics killed the left. Whites, Blacks, Asians, Men, Women, Gay, Straight, Bisexual we're all fucking humans working for truly priviledged rich humans.

SJWs arent collectivists they dont want to help anyone except themselves an SJW would fight racism not for the minority but to feel good about themselves and the last part i agree with men should work for the betterment of man and none else
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Postby Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 2:00 pm

I'm really concerned that as a libertarian socialist, I have more in common with centrist conservatives than other left-wingers ..it kind of shows the left isn't actually very libertarian or accepting of different opinions these days. While this is not Fascism, Fascism was born in the exact same way ...by fanatic undebatable left-wingers who cared more about identity politics rather than the economy.

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Postby New Emeline » Thu May 17, 2018 2:01 pm

Taurgha wrote:I'm really concerned that as a libertarian socialist, I have more in common with centrist conservatives than other left-wingers ..it kind of shows the left isn't actually very libertarian or accepting of different opinions these days. While this is not Fascism, Fascism was born in the exact same way ...by fanatic undebatable left-wingers who cared more about identity politics rather than the economy.

-fascism
-left wingers

hmmmm

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Postby Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 2:02 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:
Taurgha wrote:Who talked about violence ..I'm talking of the "If you aren't with us, you're against us" tactics and strict political lines of all said groups. That's what makes them quasi-fascist ..not violence, though violence is a natural outcome of fascism most of the time, as is with all totalitarian ideologies.

No it doesn't? Not accepting outsider ideologues is a thing almost every single group has in some bits. Not everything is fascism my dude, fascism is a very specific ideology.

If you noticed from my rather large post two pages back, I know very well what fascism is. And the Alt-left is showing minor aspects of it ..I never said, it IS fascism.

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Postby Kvatchdom » Thu May 17, 2018 2:02 pm

Taurgha wrote:I'm really concerned that as a libertarian socialist, I have more in common with centrist conservatives than other left-wingers ..it kind of shows the left isn't actually very libertarian or accepting of different opinions these days. While this is not Fascism, Fascism was born in the exact same way ...by fanatic undebatable left-wingers who cared more about identity politics rather than the economy.

Fascism was never left-wing. The left is accepting of different opinions, reminder that US liberals are not left-wing. But if you try to spout pseudo-science or defend actual self-described nazis, most left-wingers will rightfully dislike you.
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Postby Irou » Thu May 17, 2018 2:02 pm

Taurgha wrote:While this is not Fascism, Fascism was born in the exact same way ...by fanatic undebatable left-wingers who cared more about identity politics rather than the economy.

:oops: confusion :oops:
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Postby Kvatchdom » Thu May 17, 2018 2:03 pm

Taurgha wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:No it doesn't? Not accepting outsider ideologues is a thing almost every single group has in some bits. Not everything is fascism my dude, fascism is a very specific ideology.

If you noticed from my rather large post two pages back, I know very well what fascism is. And the Alt-left is showing minor aspects of it ..I never said, it IS fascism.

The fuck is the alt-left? If you knew what Fascism was you wouldn't be comparing angry lefties to it.
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Postby Kvatchdom » Thu May 17, 2018 2:03 pm

Irou wrote:
Taurgha wrote:While this is not Fascism, Fascism was born in the exact same way ...by fanatic undebatable left-wingers who cared more about identity politics rather than the economy.

:oops: confusion :oops:

He seems like a normie American. That's the only explanation I have for this.
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Postby New Emeline » Thu May 17, 2018 2:04 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:
Irou wrote: :oops: confusion :oops:

He seems like a normie American. That's the only explanation I have for this.

as a normie american
don't lump me in with them

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Postby Kvatchdom » Thu May 17, 2018 2:04 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:He seems like a normie American. That's the only explanation I have for this.

as a normie american
don't lump me in with them

You're not normie enough to compare BLM to Fascists.
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Postby Irou » Thu May 17, 2018 2:05 pm

Taurgha wrote:I'm really concerned that as a libertarian socialist, I have more in common with centrist conservatives than other left-wingers ..it kind of shows the left isn't actually very libertarian or accepting of different opinions these days. While this is not Fascism, Fascism was born in the exact same way ...by fanatic undebatable left-wingers who cared more about identity politics rather than the economy.

Im guess by Libertarian socialist you mean Classical Liberal who believes in progressive economic policies right? I doubt youre an AnCom
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Postby New Emeline » Thu May 17, 2018 2:05 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:
New Emeline wrote:as a normie american
don't lump me in with them

You're not normie enough to compare BLM to Fascists.

true

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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu May 17, 2018 2:06 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Taurgha wrote:I'm really concerned that as a libertarian socialist, I have more in common with centrist conservatives than other left-wingers ..it kind of shows the left isn't actually very libertarian or accepting of different opinions these days. While this is not Fascism, Fascism was born in the exact same way ...by fanatic undebatable left-wingers who cared more about identity politics rather than the economy.

-fascism
-left wingers

hmmmm

Early fascism was left-wing. Of course, early fascism had very little in common with fascism as it came to be.

>> tfw early fascists believed in democracy
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Postby Imperium Corturnix » Thu May 17, 2018 2:06 pm

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Supporters of fascism throughout history have basically only been in it for themselves.

Nah? I believe in doing what I must for my people and so did they.

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Postby Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 2:06 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:
Taurgha wrote:I'm really concerned that as a libertarian socialist, I have more in common with centrist conservatives than other left-wingers ..it kind of shows the left isn't actually very libertarian or accepting of different opinions these days. While this is not Fascism, Fascism was born in the exact same way ...by fanatic undebatable left-wingers who cared more about identity politics rather than the economy.

Fascism was never left-wing. The left is accepting of different opinions, reminder that US liberals are not left-wing. But if you try to spout pseudo-science or defend actual self-described nazis, most left-wingers will rightfully dislike you.

Fascism is not left-wing but it was born out of the left. Also, the ones sprouting pseudo-science are the gender-fluid-whateverist people that believe in lesbian-string-theories and shit. Or the folk who claim White men are by default priviledged ..or in general adopt generalising, fanatical support or opposition to various ideas.
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