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by New Emeline » Thu May 17, 2018 1:54 pm

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by Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 1:56 pm

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by Kvatchdom » Thu May 17, 2018 1:58 pm
Taurgha wrote:Kvatchdom wrote:I can only see some kind of correlation because of violent behaviour with BLM and Antifa but violence is not fascism.
Who talked about violence ..I'm talking of the "If you aren't with us, you're against us" tactics and strict political lines of all said groups. That's what makes them quasi-fascist ..not violence, though violence is a natural outcome of fascism most of the time, as is with all totalitarian ideologies.

by Irou » Thu May 17, 2018 1:59 pm
Taurgha wrote:Irou wrote:Please dont compare us with them were so different from them the only thing we have in common is ideological vigor
But isn't Political Correctness in a way a mean to achieve uniformity in society? Isn't Identity politics in general aiming to create a gag rule on who is and who isn't what, essentially labelling everyone as the same in difference and equal by default? Equality does not exist in nature, nature is unequal ..if we refuse to accept that we will not progress in our societies, in fact we will create more unfair and unjust societies that do not see who are the really disadvantaged people. I mean, when a Black Gay Woman claims she's as much in a vulnerable position as a white straight male cripple, that's wrong. And it's the same even if said man is not a cripple ..let's learn to divide by class and not race, sex and sexuality. Identity politics killed the left. Whites, Blacks, Asians, Men, Women, Gay, Straight, Bisexual we're all fucking humans working for truly priviledged rich humans.
by Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 2:00 pm

by New Emeline » Thu May 17, 2018 2:01 pm
Taurgha wrote:I'm really concerned that as a libertarian socialist, I have more in common with centrist conservatives than other left-wingers ..it kind of shows the left isn't actually very libertarian or accepting of different opinions these days. While this is not Fascism, Fascism was born in the exact same way ...by fanatic undebatable left-wingers who cared more about identity politics rather than the economy.
by Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 2:02 pm
Kvatchdom wrote:Taurgha wrote:Who talked about violence ..I'm talking of the "If you aren't with us, you're against us" tactics and strict political lines of all said groups. That's what makes them quasi-fascist ..not violence, though violence is a natural outcome of fascism most of the time, as is with all totalitarian ideologies.
No it doesn't? Not accepting outsider ideologues is a thing almost every single group has in some bits. Not everything is fascism my dude, fascism is a very specific ideology.

by Kvatchdom » Thu May 17, 2018 2:02 pm
Taurgha wrote:I'm really concerned that as a libertarian socialist, I have more in common with centrist conservatives than other left-wingers ..it kind of shows the left isn't actually very libertarian or accepting of different opinions these days. While this is not Fascism, Fascism was born in the exact same way ...by fanatic undebatable left-wingers who cared more about identity politics rather than the economy.

by Irou » Thu May 17, 2018 2:02 pm
Taurgha wrote:While this is not Fascism, Fascism was born in the exact same way ...by fanatic undebatable left-wingers who cared more about identity politics rather than the economy.

by Kvatchdom » Thu May 17, 2018 2:03 pm
Taurgha wrote:Kvatchdom wrote:No it doesn't? Not accepting outsider ideologues is a thing almost every single group has in some bits. Not everything is fascism my dude, fascism is a very specific ideology.
If you noticed from my rather large post two pages back, I know very well what fascism is. And the Alt-left is showing minor aspects of it ..I never said, it IS fascism.

by New Emeline » Thu May 17, 2018 2:04 pm

by Irou » Thu May 17, 2018 2:05 pm
Taurgha wrote:I'm really concerned that as a libertarian socialist, I have more in common with centrist conservatives than other left-wingers ..it kind of shows the left isn't actually very libertarian or accepting of different opinions these days. While this is not Fascism, Fascism was born in the exact same way ...by fanatic undebatable left-wingers who cared more about identity politics rather than the economy.

by New Emeline » Thu May 17, 2018 2:05 pm

by Conserative Morality » Thu May 17, 2018 2:06 pm
New Emeline wrote:Taurgha wrote:I'm really concerned that as a libertarian socialist, I have more in common with centrist conservatives than other left-wingers ..it kind of shows the left isn't actually very libertarian or accepting of different opinions these days. While this is not Fascism, Fascism was born in the exact same way ...by fanatic undebatable left-wingers who cared more about identity politics rather than the economy.
-fascism
-left wingers
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by Imperium Corturnix » Thu May 17, 2018 2:06 pm
by Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 2:06 pm
Kvatchdom wrote:Taurgha wrote:I'm really concerned that as a libertarian socialist, I have more in common with centrist conservatives than other left-wingers ..it kind of shows the left isn't actually very libertarian or accepting of different opinions these days. While this is not Fascism, Fascism was born in the exact same way ...by fanatic undebatable left-wingers who cared more about identity politics rather than the economy.
Fascism was never left-wing. The left is accepting of different opinions, reminder that US liberals are not left-wing. But if you try to spout pseudo-science or defend actual self-described nazis, most left-wingers will rightfully dislike you.
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