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Postby Irou » Thu May 17, 2018 1:29 pm

Taurgha wrote:In retrospect Fascism is so simple that it can be explained just by looking at its symbol, the Fasces. A bundle of sticks that together makes a hard to break single entity. Now, many fascists are intrigued by being part of something bigger, seeing themselves as part of a great nation ..but in reality they remain plain, boring sticks stuck at doing a single function for no one's good since all are sticks. I prefer to be a person rather than a stick..

TOGETHER WE FORM A GREAT FAGGOT!
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Postby Fahran » Thu May 17, 2018 1:30 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Julian the Apostate, when writing "On the Gallileans", grouped together the Libyans and Ethiopians in contrast to Germans and Scythians, and Numidians were commonly also described as dark and akin to Ethiopians and Nubians.

I wouldn't rely too heavily on those classifications in light of how wonky they could be from source to source. Instead it's probably more prudent to adhere to the theories of scientific and anthropological experts. They largely conform to the argument I made, namely that Libya's population hasn't changed alarmingly much since the classical period.
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"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

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Postby Fenriis » Thu May 17, 2018 1:31 pm

Dominara wrote:
Fenriis wrote:Black refers to the sub-Saharan peoples of Africa.

Mate you need too go back to school. Wow, that's ignorant.

No it isn't. Its like how Aborigines and very dark Indians are ethnically classified as black. Black refers to sub-Saharan African heritage

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Postby Cekoviu » Thu May 17, 2018 1:31 pm

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Dominara wrote:Mate you need too go back to school. Wow, that's ignorant.

No it isn't. Its like how Aborigines and very dark Indians are ethnically classified as black. Black refers to sub-Saharan African heritage

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/black
of or relating to any of various population groups having dark pigmentation of the skin
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Postby Fenriis » Thu May 17, 2018 1:31 pm

Irou wrote:
Taurgha wrote:In retrospect Fascism is so simple that it can be explained just by looking at its symbol, the Fasces. A bundle of sticks that together makes a hard to break single entity. Now, many fascists are intrigued by being part of something bigger, seeing themselves as part of a great nation ..but in reality they remain plain, boring sticks stuck at doing a single function for no one's good since all are sticks. I prefer to be a person rather than a stick..

TOGETHER WE FORM A GREAT FAGGOT!

I remember that was on the Simpsons that line

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Postby Fenriis » Thu May 17, 2018 1:32 pm

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Fenriis wrote:No it isn't. Its like how Aborigines and very dark Indians are ethnically classified as black. Black refers to sub-Saharan African heritage

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/black
of or relating to any of various population groups having dark pigmentation of the skin

Do you classify very dark Indians and aborigines as black?

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Postby Fenriis » Thu May 17, 2018 1:34 pm

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Fenriis wrote: I did say they have a IQ difference which is science.

Not really.

Yes it is. Look at world IQ map. Doesn't mean people with lower IQs should be mistreated for it whatever the race

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Postby Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 1:34 pm

Fenriis wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Julian the Apostate, when writing "On the Gallileans", grouped together the Libyans and Ethiopians in contrast to Germans and Scythians, and Numidians were commonly also described as dark and akin to Ethiopians and Nubians.

Dark skin yes but not black Africans. The Ethiopians and Nubians are mostly black but they aren't in the empire

Africa has more "races" than Europe and Asia, however the fact that all these races are dark skinned makes them in the eyes of most a single African race. In reality calling all Africans part of the Black Race is the same as calling a White East Asian, a White Indo-European and a White Semite part of a single White Race. of course "races" in humans are more or less as different as European Timber Wolves and Asian Timber Wolves ...technically all humans are much like Timber Wolves a single race of Homo Sapiens apes that only have minor localised exterior differences due to different survival needs ..much like how a European timber wolf has less thick and more dark fur than a Timber Wolf living in the Eurasian Steppes.
They still are fυcking timber wolves.
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Postby Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 1:38 pm

Irou wrote:
Taurgha wrote:In retrospect Fascism is so simple that it can be explained just by looking at its symbol, the Fasces. A bundle of sticks that together makes a hard to break single entity. Now, many fascists are intrigued by being part of something bigger, seeing themselves as part of a great nation ..but in reality they remain plain, boring sticks stuck at doing a single function for no one's good since all are sticks. I prefer to be a person rather than a stick..

TOGETHER WE FORM A GREAT FAGGOT!

Precisely ...Fascism could easily be translated as Faggotry.
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu May 17, 2018 1:39 pm

Fenriis wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Not really.

Yes it is. Look at world IQ map. Doesn't mean people with lower IQs should be mistreated for it whatever the race

If I classify people into "martenflonk" and "plackenfmeifers" totally randomly and then prove that the IQs of martenflonks is lower than that of plackenfmeifers, that proves nothing and isn't scientific.
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Cekoviu wrote:https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/black
of or relating to any of various population groups having dark pigmentation of the skin

Do you classify very dark Indians and aborigines as black?

Yes. What kind of a question is that?
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Postby Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 1:42 pm

One could actually see fascist "organic state" patterns in the modern American alt-left, namely SJWs, BLM, Third Wave Feminists and quite ironically... Antifa.

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Postby Fahran » Thu May 17, 2018 1:43 pm

Taurgha wrote:
Fenriis wrote:Dark skin yes but not black Africans. The Ethiopians and Nubians are mostly black but they aren't in the empire

Africa has more "races" than Europe and Asia, however the fact that all these races are dark skinned makes them in the eyes of most a single African race. In reality calling all Africans part of the Black Race is the same as calling a White East Asian, a White Indo-European and a White Semite part of a single White Race. of course "races" in humans are more or less as different as European Timber Wolves and Asian Timber Wolves ...technically all humans are much like Timber Wolves a single race of Homo Sapiens apes that only have minor localised exterior differences due to different survival needs ..much like how a European timber wolf has less thick and more dark fur than a Timber Wolf living in the Eurasian Steppes.
They still are fυcking timber wolves.

This.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

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Postby Jebslund » Thu May 17, 2018 1:43 pm

Fenriis wrote:

Doesn't look like a black African in anyway more middle eastern. Black people don't have brown hair to start with they have black afro shaped hair. The children certainly don't have black features

My hair is only afro-shaped when I pick it, as is the hair of around 90% of black people I know. In fact, a quick Google image search of the word "Africans" showed almost no afros. That bust one of the images you were linked to showed is pretty consistent with most of the black people I've seen who don't pick their hair into an afro or wear it in dreads or corn rows, and it's about what my hair and beard would look like if I let the beard grow untamed and kept my hair around that length.
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Postby Kvatchdom » Thu May 17, 2018 1:43 pm

Taurgha wrote:One could actually see fascist "organic state" patterns in the modern American alt-left, namely SJWs, BLM, Third Wave Feminists and quite ironically... Antifa.

yeah, nah
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Postby Irou » Thu May 17, 2018 1:43 pm

Taurgha wrote:One could actually see fascist "organic state" patterns in the modern American alt-left, namely SJWs, BLM, Third Wave Feminists and quite ironically... Antifa.

Please dont compare us with them were so different from them the only thing we have in common is ideological vigor
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Postby Torrocca » Thu May 17, 2018 1:45 pm

Fenriis wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Tuaregs aren't either :^)))))



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Black refers to the sub-Saharan peoples of Africa. The Polynesians are pacific people and have more in common with South East Asia


Tuaregs are black Saharan Africans :^)))
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Postby Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 1:45 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:
Taurgha wrote:One could actually see fascist "organic state" patterns in the modern American alt-left, namely SJWs, BLM, Third Wave Feminists and quite ironically... Antifa.

yeah, nah

Good point, you're absolutely right.

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Postby Fahran » Thu May 17, 2018 1:45 pm

Irou wrote:
Taurgha wrote:One could actually see fascist "organic state" patterns in the modern American alt-left, namely SJWs, BLM, Third Wave Feminists and quite ironically... Antifa.

Please dont compare us with them were so different from them the only thing we have in common is ideological vigor

And the promotion of degenerate political ideologies. :p

Actually, BLM gets a pass if they follow the Black Panther model minus the socialism.
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"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu May 17, 2018 1:47 pm

Fahran wrote:I wouldn't rely too heavily on those classifications in light of wonky they could be from source to source. Instead it's probably more prudent to adhere to the theories of scientific and anthropological experts. They largely conform to the argument I made, namely that Libya's population hasn't changed alarmingly much since the classical period.

The primary distinctions of the time were between Punics, Libyans, and Numidians - Numidia was Berber in origin and nature, and Berbers include a wide variety of phenotypes due in no small part to the highly nomadic culture cultivated; while Punic colonists largely intermarried within a few generations and became culturally but not racially distinct. This leaves the Libyans as the only point of contention. Herodotus describes the non-Berber people in North Africa as being "dark skinned" and having "woolly hair" as well as Egyptians. Aescyhlus describes a "Dark, sunburned race" as belonging to both Libya and Egypt.

If you have contradicting genetic evidence to the ancient sources, I'd love to see it.
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Postby Kvatchdom » Thu May 17, 2018 1:48 pm

Taurgha wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:yeah, nah

Good point, you're absolutely right.

I can only see some kind of correlation because of violent behaviour with BLM and Antifa but violence is not fascism.
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Postby Fenriis » Thu May 17, 2018 1:49 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Fahran wrote:I wouldn't rely too heavily on those classifications in light of wonky they could be from source to source. Instead it's probably more prudent to adhere to the theories of scientific and anthropological experts. They largely conform to the argument I made, namely that Libya's population hasn't changed alarmingly much since the classical period.

The primary distinctions of the time were between Punics, Libyans, and Numidians - Numidia was Berber in origin and nature, and Berbers include a wide variety of phenotypes due in no small part to the highly nomadic culture cultivated; while Punic colonists largely intermarried within a few generations and became culturally but not racially distinct. This leaves the Libyans as the only point of contention. Herodotus describes the non-Berber people in North Africa as being "dark skinned" and having "woolly hair" as well as Egyptians. Aescyhlus describes a "Dark, sunburned race" as belonging to both Libya and Egypt.

If you have contradicting genetic evidence to the ancient sources, I'd love to see it.

The Egyptions had brownish redish skin and were a Levantine people related to Anatolians and their closest decendants are the copts in Egypt

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Postby Fenriis » Thu May 17, 2018 1:51 pm

Jebslund wrote:
Fenriis wrote:Doesn't look like a black African in anyway more middle eastern. Black people don't have brown hair to start with they have black afro shaped hair. The children certainly don't have black features

My hair is only afro-shaped when I pick it, as is the hair of around 90% of black people I know. In fact, a quick Google image search of the word "Africans" showed almost no afros. That bust one of the images you were linked to showed is pretty consistent with most of the black people I've seen who don't pick their hair into an afro or wear it in dreads or corn rows, and it's about what my hair and beard would look like if I let the beard grow untamed and kept my hair around that length.

Afro shaped is the wrong word but very curly and black. The man had brown hair on the picture

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Postby Fenriis » Thu May 17, 2018 1:52 pm

Fahran wrote:
Irou wrote:Please dont compare us with them were so different from them the only thing we have in common is ideological vigor

And the promotion of degenerate political ideologies. :p

Actually, BLM gets a pass if they follow the Black Panther model minus the socialism.

We are the anti degenerates.

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Postby Taurgha » Thu May 17, 2018 1:53 pm

Irou wrote:
Taurgha wrote:One could actually see fascist "organic state" patterns in the modern American alt-left, namely SJWs, BLM, Third Wave Feminists and quite ironically... Antifa.

Please dont compare us with them were so different from them the only thing we have in common is ideological vigor

But isn't Political Correctness in a way a mean to achieve uniformity in society? Isn't Identity politics in general aiming to create a gag rule on who is and who isn't what, essentially labelling everyone as the same in difference and equal by default? Equality does not exist in nature, nature is unequal ..if we refuse to accept that we will not progress in our societies, in fact we will create more unfair and unjust societies that do not see who are the really disadvantaged people. I mean, when a Black Gay Woman claims she's as much in a vulnerable position as a white straight male cripple, that's wrong. And it's the same even if said man is not a cripple ..let's learn to divide by class and not race, sex and sexuality. Identity politics killed the left. Whites, Blacks, Asians, Men, Women, Gay, Straight, Bisexual we're all fucking humans working for truly priviledged rich humans.

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Postby Fenriis » Thu May 17, 2018 1:54 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Fenriis wrote:Yes it is. Look at world IQ map. Doesn't mean people with lower IQs should be mistreated for it whatever the race

If I classify people into "martenflonk" and "plackenfmeifers" totally randomly and then prove that the IQs of martenflonks is lower than that of plackenfmeifers, that proves nothing and isn't scientific.
Fenriis wrote:Do you classify very dark Indians and aborigines as black?

Yes. What kind of a question is that?

Aborigines and dark Indians and Africans are a different race. The black race refers to sub-Saharan races same way African albinos or Jews(although the mixed race ones partially are) for example aren't in the white race
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