Fascism

[Venetorria]

What is literally all of Europe in the 20s, 30s, and 40s?

Fascism and Communism?

[Torrocca]

What is unaccountable government totalitarianism advocated by Fascism?



What is Charlottesville or literally all of Europe in the 20s, 30s, and 40s?

Charlottesville? One person ran someone over...I guess since Bin Laden orchestrated 9/11 all muslims are terrorists then huh?

Nice job not addressing the obvious issue of Fascist-caused violence and instead deflecting. Also, good job failing to address my first point. :^)

(also most of those cucks were more national socialist than Fascist)

Got ourselves a voice of reason right here, fellas.

Also >implying there's any major differences between the two

[Torrocca]

Torrocca didn't say all fascists did it, but you said all fascists don't, so they disproved your assertion. If I said "Muslims don't [ever] engage in terrorist activity," you could point out Al-Qaeda, ISIS, etc. and it would prove me wrong.

"people adhering to non-Fascist ideologies don't tend to actively seek out violence and murder."

that implies that Fascists tend to actively seek out violence and murder...

They do.

[Kash Island]

Charlottesville? One person ran someone over...I guess since Bin Laden orchestrated 9/11 all muslims are terrorists then huh?

Nice job not addressing the obvious issue of Fascist-caused violence and instead deflecting. Also, good job failing to address my first point. :^)

(also most of those cucks were more national socialist than Fascist)

Got ourselves a voice of reason right here, fellas.

Also >implying there's any major differences between the two

There were serious problems between Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany when it came to ideology, especially in the area of race.

there were more than a few Jewish Fascists in Italy(pretty major difference)

[Torrocca]

What is literally all of Europe in the 20s, 30s, and 40s?

Fascism and Communism?

I mean, yes, but which one was controlling basically all of Europe by 1941?

[Thanatttynia]

Right. Totalitarianism is impossible to achieve without atrocities.


Theoretically a fascistic state could not commit any war crimes in a war, but how likely is that in a heavily militarised, totalitarian state fighting against an enemy of the state? Is it more or less likely than a modern liberal democracy committing war crimes?

false, totalitarianism can be acheived without atrocities, now I would concede that abuses are a certainty because you have to keep people in line, but outright atrocities are not a requirement.

'Atrocities' is an amorphous term. When I use the term 'atrocity', I'm probably referring to what a fascist might call a necessary abuse or even a justified response. 'An extremely wicked or cruel act, typically one involving physical violence or injury.' I think you'd be hard pressed to find a fascist or totalitarian who didn't privately agree that some atrocities are inevitable in the establishment of a fascistic or totalitarian state, though it might be difficult to get one to admit to that.

War crimes happen sure, but that's just a fact of ANY war, but not a direct result of fascism, you could possibly say it can be indirectly a result.

Theoretically a fascistic state could not commit any war crimes in a war, but how likely is that in a heavily militarised, totalitarian state fighting against an enemy of the state? Is it more or less likely than a modern liberal democracy committing war crimes?[/quote]

[New Emeline]

(also most of those cucks were more national socialist than Fascist)

Nazis are fascist friendo

also unironic use of the word "cuck"

[Torrocca]

Nice job not addressing the obvious issue of Fascist-caused violence and instead deflecting. Also, good job failing to address my first point. :^)



Got ourselves a voice of reason right here, fellas.

Also >implying there's any major differences between the two

There were serious problems between Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany when it came to ideology, especially in the area of race.

there were more than a few Jewish Fascists in Italy(pretty major difference)

And yet Mussolini enacted Anti-Semitic laws after buddying up with Hitler. That gets my almonds churning.

[Kash Island]

"people adhering to non-Fascist ideologies don't tend to actively seek out violence and murder."

that implies that Fascists tend to actively seek out violence and murder...

They do.

Southern Poverty Law Center really?

and alt-right=/=Fascist

alt-right has many differen't forms to it.

[Kash Island]

There were serious problems between Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany when it came to ideology, especially in the area of race.

there were more than a few Jewish Fascists in Italy(pretty major difference)

And yet Mussolini enacted Anti-Semitic laws after buddying up with Hitler. That gets my almonds churning.

AFTERWARDS

I'm not denying he became a puppet

[Torrocca]

They do.

Southern Poverty Law Center really?

and alt-right=/=Fascist

alt-right has many differen't forms to it.

>Denying the Fascism inherent to the Alt-Right

w e w l a d d i e

[Torrocca]

And yet Mussolini enacted Anti-Semitic laws after buddying up with Hitler. That gets my almonds churning.

AFTERWARDS

I'm not denying he became a puppet

He didn't even become a puppet until 1943 lmao

[Kubumba Tribe]

There were serious problems between Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany when it came to ideology, especially in the area of race.

there were more than a few Jewish Fascists in Italy(pretty major difference)

And yet Mussolini enacted Anti-SemiticJewish laws after buddying up with Hitler. That gets my almonds churning.

Ftfy

[Kash Island]

Southern Poverty Law Center really?

and alt-right=/=Fascist

alt-right has many differen't forms to it.

>Denying the Fascism inherent to the Alt-Right

w e w l a d d i e

the SPLC isn't even a credible organization, it just pretends to be with it's name.

[New Emeline]

>Denying the Fascism inherent to the Alt-Right

w e w l a d d i e

the SPLC isn't even a credible organization, it just pretends to be with it's name.

why not?

[Kash Island]

AFTERWARDS

I'm not denying he became a puppet

He didn't even become a puppet until 1943 lmao

and the doctrine of fascism came out in 1932

[Torrocca]

>Denying the Fascism inherent to the Alt-Right

w e w l a d d i e

the SPLC isn't even a credible organization, it just pretends to be with it's name.

This, said by someone defending actual Fascism. l m a o

He didn't even become a puppet until 1943 lmao

and the doctrine of fascism came out in 1932

And it expressed unaccountable statist totalitarianism then. And what happened with Italy between then and 1943? *War crimes against Ethiopia intensifies*

[Cekoviu]

alt-right has many differen't forms to it.

Yeah! There are Nazis, national socialists, advocates of Hitleresque strategies, fascists with German characteristics...

[Len Hyet]

And yet Mussolini enacted Anti-SemiticJewish laws after buddying up with Hitler. That gets my almonds churning.

Ftfy

Anti-semitism is a term invented by anti-Jewish activists to give their views a "scientific" bent and in no way shape or form refers to the semitic language group, but exclusively refers to beliefs about the inferiority of the Jewish people [1].

It was used correctly, I assure you.

[Kash Island]

the SPLC isn't even a credible organization, it just pretends to be with it's name.

This, said by someone defending actual Fascism. l m a o

and the doctrine of fascism came out in 1932

And it expressed unaccountable statist totalitarianism then. And what happened with Italy between then and 1943? *War crimes against Ethiopia intensifies*

war crimes happend all the time in those days and before/afterwards, stop acting like they are special, the Belgians did absolutley terrible things in the Congo and many other western "free nations"

I won't deny it is statist and totalitarian though.

also, Italy was becoming influenced by Germany due to the strength Hitler was amassing, Mussolini saw this and was attempting to buddy buddy.

[Venetorria]

Fascism and Communism?

I mean, yes, but which one was controlling basically all of Europe by 1941?

And by whose help? The USSR proved extremely useful to the German war effort in the West.
But yes, Fascism did tyrannize most of Europe for a handful of years, though, do tell me which ideology went on to oppress half of Europe for the next five decades?

and alt-right=/=Fascist

I agree, it's an unfair comparison. Fascism had stylish uniforms and catchy songs, the alt-right has... frog memes?

[Torrocca]

This, said by someone defending actual Fascism. l m a o



And it expressed unaccountable statist totalitarianism then. And what happened with Italy between then and 1943? *War crimes against Ethiopia intensifies*

war crimes happend all the time in those days and before/afterwards, stop acting like they are special, the Belgians did absolutley terrible things in the Congo and many other western "free nations"

Whataboutism, do not pass go, do not collect $200, go straight to jail.

I won't deny it is statist and totalitarian though.

There ya go!

also, Italy was becoming influenced by Germany due to the strength Hitler was amassing, Mussolini saw this and was attempting to buddy buddy.

Italy was a mistake.

[Cekoviu]

also, Italy was becoming influenced by Germany due to the strength Hitler was amassing, Mussolini saw this and was attempting to buddy buddy.

Italy was a mistake.

But how else would we have gotten pizza and pasta?

[Kash Island]

war crimes happend all the time in those days and before/afterwards, stop acting like they are special, the Belgians did absolutley terrible things in the Congo and many other western "free nations"

Whataboutism, do not pass go, do not collect $200, go straight to jail.

I won't deny it is statist and totalitarian though.

There ya go!

also, Italy was becoming influenced by Germany due to the strength Hitler was amassing, Mussolini saw this and was attempting to buddy buddy.

Italy was a mistake.

what does that even mean?

[Kubumba Tribe]

Ftfy

Anti-semitism is a term invented by anti-Jewish activists to give their views a "scientific" bent and in no way shape or form refers to the semitic language group, but exclusively refers to beliefs about the inferiority of the Jewish people [1].

It was used correctly, I assure you.

Jews are not the only Semitic people in the world, hence, used incorrectly.