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Favorite Left Wing Novelist or Playwright

George Orwell
141
63%
Leo Tolstoy
28
13%
Maxim Gorky
4
2%
Oscar Wilde
17
8%
John Sommerfield
1
0%
Nikolay Ostrovsky
3
1%
Andrei Bely
1
0%
John Steinbeck
22
10%
Arthur Miller
6
3%
 
Total votes : 223

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Postby New Emeline » Mon May 07, 2018 5:03 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I have only recently gotten to a point of financial stability, which is why I've only recently considered putting together a political book list.

What is a library.

What is a library

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Postby Genivaria » Mon May 07, 2018 5:04 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I have only recently gotten to a point of financial stability, which is why I've only recently considered putting together a political book list.

What is a library.

Something that requires me to drive around and be around people.
2 things I don't like.
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon May 07, 2018 5:04 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I have only recently gotten to a point of financial stability, which is why I've only recently considered putting together a political book list.

What is a library.

In particular, what is the Anarchist Library.
I've been meaning to read The Ego and Its Own for a while. Egoism as a philosophy appeals to me, though I haven't read the master yet.
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon May 07, 2018 5:04 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:What is a library.

Something that requires me to drive around and be around people.
2 things I don't like.

Walk or ride the bus, then raid it in the middle of the night when nobody's around.
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Postby Genivaria » Mon May 07, 2018 5:06 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Something that requires me to drive around and be around people.
2 things I don't like.

Walk or ride the bus, then raid it in the middle of the night when nobody's around.

I live in Houston, there is no bus system and it's Texas and hot as balls.
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Postby The South Falls » Mon May 07, 2018 5:07 pm

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Cekoviu wrote:She wasn't involved aside from knowing the assassin.

She was just cunning enough to cover her tracks

That's what the Stasi says when they want to arrest a relative of a political dissident.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon May 07, 2018 5:07 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:What is a library.

Something that requires me to drive around and be around people.
2 things I don't like.

You check out books and read them at home. Fuck. The plebeians don't even deserve libraries
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Postby New Emeline » Mon May 07, 2018 5:08 pm

The South Falls wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:She was just cunning enough to cover her tracks

That's what the Stasi says when they want to arrest a relative of a political dissident.

exactly ;)

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Postby New Emeline » Mon May 07, 2018 5:08 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Something that requires me to drive around and be around people.
2 things I don't like.

You check out books and read them at home. Fuck. The plebeians don't even deserve libraries

take away libraries and I will fight you

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Postby The South Falls » Mon May 07, 2018 5:08 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Walk or ride the bus, then raid it in the middle of the night when nobody's around.

I live in Houston, there is no bus system and it's Texas and hot as balls.

It's always ballsedly hot here. 120F they said, in Laredo. Anyway, I think the fact that there is no public bus system, in a city of 4 million people is a problem. There are people who are disadvantaged and don't have any way to get around.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon May 07, 2018 5:08 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:What is a library.

In particular, what is the Anarchist Library.
I've been meaning to read The Ego and Its Own for a while. Egoism as a philosophy appeals to me, though I haven't read the master yet.

I have read it, it's pretty damn gay. But Max is a witty fellow
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Postby Genivaria » Mon May 07, 2018 5:09 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Something that requires me to drive around and be around people.
2 things I don't like.

You check out books and read them at home. Fuck. The plebeians don't even deserve libraries

I've been in several collisions in the last few years so driving when I don't have to makes me a bit nervous.
Get off my case.
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Postby New Emeline » Mon May 07, 2018 5:09 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:In particular, what is the Anarchist Library.
I've been meaning to read The Ego and Its Own for a while. Egoism as a philosophy appeals to me, though I haven't read the master yet.

I have read it, it's pretty damn gay. But Max is a witty fellow

now i'm interested ;)
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon May 07, 2018 5:09 pm

The South Falls wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:She was just cunning enough to cover her tracks

That's what the Stasi says when they want to arrest a relative of a political dissident.

Smdh. I only think deporting her was necessary
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Postby Chestaan » Mon May 07, 2018 5:10 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:That's not Goldman's point, but I am shocked no one in a leftist thread is familiar with her work

I have only recently gotten to a point of financial stability, which is why I've only recently considered putting together a political book list.


Get some of Yanis Varoufakis books. He deconstructs the problems within the EU and the global financial system very well.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon May 07, 2018 5:11 pm

New Emeline wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:You check out books and read them at home. Fuck. The plebeians don't even deserve libraries

take away libraries and I will fight you

99% of check outs that aren't for little kids are movies anyway
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Postby New Emeline » Mon May 07, 2018 5:11 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
New Emeline wrote:take away libraries and I will fight you

99% of check outs that aren't for little kids are movies anyway

fight me

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Postby The South Falls » Mon May 07, 2018 5:12 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:What is a library.

In particular, what is the Anarchist Library.
I've been meaning to read The Ego and Its Own for a while. Egoism as a philosophy appeals to me, though I haven't read the master yet.

I honestly believe in Egoism. All human morality wouldn't be a thing, if we didn't need to please others, for material, or psychological reward. Since we don't have an innate instinct to, say, save people from a burning building, but society makes it out to be a noble act, for which one should be commended, then we have more inclination to do it. So we are moral for our own self-interest.
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Postby Genivaria » Mon May 07, 2018 5:12 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I live in Houston, there is no bus system and it's Texas and hot as balls.

It's always ballsedly hot here. 120F they said, in Laredo. Anyway, I think the fact that there is no public bus system, in a city of 4 million people is a problem. There are people who are disadvantaged and don't have any way to get around.

I actually made pretty much that same point in the previous thread.
viewtopic.php?p=33859185#p33859185

San Antonio has MUCH better PU with tax paid buses.
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Postby Chestaan » Mon May 07, 2018 5:13 pm

Also I'm pretty sure a lot of communist stuff is free online. I think The Communist Manifesto is one of the free ones.
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Postby Aillyria » Mon May 07, 2018 5:13 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:>Implying statist makes you not left

Leftcoms are the only acceptable coms, m80.
Aillyria wrote:I also have no idea who that is.

I am probably the most ignorant person here and even I know who she is (though maybe it's because I've actually been an anarchist and know a good deal about the ideologies while you haven't). Jeez, you guys need to get with the pogrom.

You're far from the most ignorant person here....I don't consider you ignorant at all, actually.

But yeah, I've never really dabbled in anarchism. My only anarchist-ish influence is Proudhon.
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Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".

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Postby Geneviev » Mon May 07, 2018 5:13 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
New Emeline wrote:take away libraries and I will fight you

99% of check outs that aren't for little kids are movies anyway

You can't get rid of libraries unless you want to fight me.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon May 07, 2018 5:15 pm

New Emeline wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:99% of check outs that aren't for little kids are movies anyway

fight me

I don't fight little kids. :^)
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Postby New Emeline » Mon May 07, 2018 5:16 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:In particular, what is the Anarchist Library.
I've been meaning to read The Ego and Its Own for a while. Egoism as a philosophy appeals to me, though I haven't read the master yet.

I honestly believe in Egoism. All human morality wouldn't be a thing, if we didn't need to please others, for material, or psychological reward. Since we don't have an innate instinct to, say, save people from a burning building, but society makes it out to be a noble act, for which one should be commended, then we have more inclination to do it. So we are moral for our own self-interest.

Then why do people do things that go against society?

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Postby Genivaria » Mon May 07, 2018 5:16 pm

Aillyria wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Leftcoms are the only acceptable coms, m80.

I am probably the most ignorant person here and even I know who she is (though maybe it's because I've actually been an anarchist and know a good deal about the ideologies while you haven't). Jeez, you guys need to get with the pogrom.

You're far from the most ignorant person here....I don't consider you ignorant at all, actually.

But yeah, I've never really dabbled in anarchism. My only anarchist-ish influence is Proudhon.

Honestly even in so called 'Anarcho-Syndicalism' it would still have to have nationalist institutions like armies and borders to maintain itself.
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