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LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan

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Favorite Left Wing Novelist or Playwright

George Orwell
141
63%
Leo Tolstoy
28
13%
Maxim Gorky
4
2%
Oscar Wilde
17
8%
John Sommerfield
1
0%
Nikolay Ostrovsky
3
1%
Andrei Bely
1
0%
John Steinbeck
22
10%
Arthur Miller
6
3%
 
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The Alexanderians
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Postby The Alexanderians » Mon May 07, 2018 4:38 pm

Aillyria wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:Now see I'm certianly no fan of feminism's idpol but that's unfair. First Wave feminists were very important to female empowerment and liberation.

That is debateable.

You don't enjoy voting rights?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon May 07, 2018 4:40 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Aillyria wrote:That is debateable.

You don't enjoy voting rights?

"Enjoy"? What is it, a soft drink?
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon May 07, 2018 4:41 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Aillyria wrote:Feminism isn't compatible with socialism.

No, socialism without feminism is class-reductionist and ignores the role that gendered labor ideologies maintain the capitalist system through the emotional labor of women and organization of workers into a family unit of production, reproduction, and consumption as well as providing an additional matrix of oppression and division for the constitution of violence and hierarchy as normative features of society.

can you dumb this down to like elementary school level please
Aillyria wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:Now see I'm certianly no fan of feminism's idpol but that's unfair. First Wave feminists were very important to female empowerment and liberation.

That is debateable.

Getting voting rights for women wasn't important to female empowerment and liberation?
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon May 07, 2018 4:42 pm

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How do you figure? I mean I despise the current non-socialist feminist movement, but I can definitely see how woman will be liberated, as will men, through the end of capitalism.

Ebin both parents will work outside the home and abortions will be a customary way to celebrate new year's day right after a night of pregnant drunken orgies

Sounds fun
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Postby New Emeline » Mon May 07, 2018 4:43 pm

Aillyria wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:Now see I'm certianly no fan of feminism's idpol but that's unfair. First Wave feminists were very important to female empowerment and liberation.

That is debateable.

I dunno, I think the fact that half of the population isn't arbitrarily banned from voting is pretty important.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon May 07, 2018 4:44 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Aillyria wrote:That is debateable.

I dunno, I think the fact that half of the population isn't arbitrarily banned from voting is pretty important.

Emma Goldman would disagree
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon May 07, 2018 4:45 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Aillyria wrote:That is debateable.

I dunno, I think the fact that half of the population is can vote is pretty important.

Slightly more than half, if we're to be pedantic.
The Parkus Empire wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:You don't enjoy voting rights?

"Enjoy"? What is it, a soft drink?

If you replace "s ft" with "v ting" and "drink" with "rights", yes.
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Postby New Emeline » Mon May 07, 2018 4:47 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
New Emeline wrote:I dunno, I think the fact that half of the population isn't arbitrarily banned from voting is pretty important.

Emma Goldman would disagree

Who?

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Postby The Alexanderians » Mon May 07, 2018 4:49 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
New Emeline wrote:I dunno, I think the fact that half of the population isn't arbitrarily banned from voting is pretty important.

Emma Goldman would disagree

And her disagreement matters because? Don't just drop a name and run actually formulate an argument.
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Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon May 07, 2018 4:51 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Emma Goldman would disagree

And her disagreement matters because? Don't just drop a name and run actually formulate an argument.

How can I explain to someone that the more people who can vote, the fewer who can run?
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Postby New Emeline » Mon May 07, 2018 4:52 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:And her disagreement matters because? Don't just drop a name and run actually formulate an argument.

How can I explain to someone that the more people who can vote, the fewer who can run?

Well, to start, you could've just said that.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon May 07, 2018 4:54 pm

New Emeline wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:How can I explain to someone that the more people who can vote, the fewer who can run?

Well, to start, you could've just said that.

That's not Goldman's point, but I am shocked no one in a leftist thread is familiar with her work
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon May 07, 2018 4:54 pm

New Emeline wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Emma Goldman would disagree

Who?

Anarcha-feminist lady from the 1900s.
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon May 07, 2018 4:54 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Well, to start, you could've just said that.

That's not Goldman's point, but I am shocked no one in a leftist thread is familiar with her work

Only three or so people have been in here since you said that, so that's not really a large enough sample size to judge.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Mon May 07, 2018 4:55 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Who?

Anarcha-feminist lady from the 1900s.

Probably why I've never heard of her. Anarchos aren't my go to ideology.
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
Women belong in the kitchen
Men belong in the kitchen
Everyone belongs in the kitchen
Kitchen has food
I have brought dishonor to my gaming clan
Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon May 07, 2018 4:56 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Anarcha-feminist lady from the 1900s.

Probably why I've never heard of her. Anarchos aren't my go to ideology.

smh, statists are all over in this "leftist" thread
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon May 07, 2018 4:56 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:That's not Goldman's point, but I am shocked no one in a leftist thread is familiar with her work

Only three or so people have been in here since you said that, so that's not really a large enough sample size to judge.

She was involved with the assassination of the POTUS, surely she should be well known on the left
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon May 07, 2018 4:57 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Only three or so people have been in here since you said that, so that's not really a large enough sample size to judge.

She was involved with the assassination of the POTUS, surely she should be well known on the left

She wasn't involved aside from knowing the assassin.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Mon May 07, 2018 4:58 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:Probably why I've never heard of her. Anarchos aren't my go to ideology.

smh, statists are all over in this "leftist" thread

>Implying statist makes you not left
Inb4 Left-Coms are only acceptable coms.
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
Women belong in the kitchen
Men belong in the kitchen
Everyone belongs in the kitchen
Kitchen has food
I have brought dishonor to my gaming clan
Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon May 07, 2018 4:59 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:She was involved with the assassination of the POTUS, surely she should be well known on the left

She wasn't involved aside from knowing the assassin.

She was just cunning enough to cover her tracks
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Postby Aillyria » Mon May 07, 2018 4:59 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Aillyria wrote:That is debateable.

You don't enjoy voting rights?

Voting in capitalist society is irrelevant for the purposes of liberation. Hence, I don't vote.

The Parkus Empire wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Well, to start, you could've just said that.

That's not Goldman's point, but I am shocked no one in a leftist thread is familiar with her work

I also have no idea who that is.
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Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".

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Postby Firaxin » Mon May 07, 2018 5:00 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:Probably why I've never heard of her. Anarchos aren't my go to ideology.

smh, statists are all over in this "leftist" thread

Ew, libertarians and anarchists. ;)

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Postby Genivaria » Mon May 07, 2018 5:00 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Well, to start, you could've just said that.

That's not Goldman's point, but I am shocked no one in a leftist thread is familiar with her work

I have only recently gotten to a point of financial stability, which is why I've only recently considered putting together a political book list.
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon May 07, 2018 5:01 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:smh, statists are all over in this "leftist" thread

>Implying statist makes you not left

Leftcoms are the only acceptable coms, m80.
Aillyria wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:That's not Goldman's point, but I am shocked no one in a leftist thread is familiar with her work

I also have no idea who that is.

I am probably the most ignorant person here and even I know who she is (though maybe it's because I've actually been an anarchist and know a good deal about the ideologies while you haven't). Jeez, you guys need to get with the pogrom.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon May 07, 2018 5:02 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:That's not Goldman's point, but I am shocked no one in a leftist thread is familiar with her work

I have only recently gotten to a point of financial stability, which is why I've only recently considered putting together a political book list.

What is a library.
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