LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan

[Auze]

Here is a screencap from last summer's thread titles

Link to see the threads of that time.

Slavery reparations. Wow.

I remember that thread particularly well, it was the one that made me realize just how crazy this is.

[Asherahan]

It should be employed. If you don't vote your subjecting yourself to the will of people that maybe lesser than you.

If you want to subject yourself to the will of the people without giving input, is that not your choice?

True but then I don't like when people have a choice when their future is concerned.

[Cekoviu]

This thread seems a bit dead. What do we all think of compulsory voting? Personally, I despise it, and I despise my country for employing it.

In a measure to (supposedly) increase political freedom and bolster democracy, it does the opposite. Nasty.

[Canadensia]

This thread seems a bit dead. What do we all think of compulsory voting? Personally, I despise it, and I despise my country for employing it.

It's rather antithetical to the spirit of democracy.

Also counter-intuitive to the intent of such a system. You aren't a patriotic citizen exercising your right to vote if you're being forced to do so.

[Ostroeuropa]

This thread seems a bit dead. What do we all think of compulsory voting? Personally, I despise it, and I despise my country for employing it.

It's rather antithetical to the spirit of democracy.

Also counter-intuitive to the intent of such a system. You aren't a patriotic citizen exercising your right to vote if you're being forced to do so.

Most don't criminalize it like that, but rather fine you for failing to vote. Hardly "Force." it's more of a "If you cba to do your duty we're going to fine you 20 dollars." Not ideal, but not so bad.

[Genivaria]

It's rather antithetical to the spirit of democracy.

Also counter-intuitive to the intent of such a system. You aren't a patriotic citizen exercising your right to vote if you're being forced to do so.

Most don't criminalize it like that, but rather fine you for failing to vote. Hardly "Force." it's more of a "If you cba to do your duty we're going to fine you 20 dollars." Not ideal, but not so bad.

I'd be far happier with simply making voting easier and making Election Day a national holiday where people have the day off to got vote.

[Ostroeuropa]

Most don't criminalize it like that, but rather fine you for failing to vote. Hardly "Force." it's more of a "If you cba to do your duty we're going to fine you 20 dollars." Not ideal, but not so bad.

I'd be far happier with simply making voting easier and making Election Day a national holiday where people have the day off to got vote.

That's a far more constructive solution yes.

[Arbeitersrepublik]

It's rather antithetical to the spirit of democracy.

Also counter-intuitive to the intent of such a system. You aren't a patriotic citizen exercising your right to vote if you're being forced to do so.

Most don't criminalize it like that, but rather fine you for failing to vote. Hardly "Force." it's more of a "If you cba to do your duty we're going to fine you 20 dollars." Not ideal, but not so bad.

I think that if voting was compulsory with the option of "I don't like any of these candidates", there would be some change brought to the United States.

[Ostroeuropa]

Most don't criminalize it like that, but rather fine you for failing to vote. Hardly "Force." it's more of a "If you cba to do your duty we're going to fine you 20 dollars." Not ideal, but not so bad.

I think that if voting was compulsory with the option of "I don't like any of these candidates", there would be some change brought to the United States.

None of the above would be better, force a second election with the candidates banned from participation.

[Arbeitersrepublik]

I think that if voting was compulsory with the option of "I don't like any of these candidates", there would be some change brought to the United States.

None of the above would be better, force a second election with the candidates banned from participation.

D...did I just agree with a nationalist?
Forgive me Stalin, I have sinned.

[Arbeitersrepublik]

None of the above would be better, force a second election with the candidates banned from participation.

D...did I just agree with a nationalist?
Forgive me Stalin, I have sinned.

But seriously, I think that people on the right have a mentality that is further to the left than they want to admit. Come to the left side, we have memes.

[Ostroeuropa]

D...did I just agree with a nationalist?
Forgive me Stalin, I have sinned.

But seriously, I think that people on the right have a mentality that is further to the left than they want to admit. Come to the left side, we have memes.

Polls consistently show strong support for social democracy, and even socialism.

[Cekoviu]

None of the above would be better, force a second election with the candidates banned from participation.

D...did I just agree with a nationalist?
Forgive me Stalin, I have sinned.

Stalin wasn't exactly an internationalist.

[New Emeline]

D...did I just agree with a nationalist?
Forgive me Stalin, I have sinned.

But seriously, I think that people on the right have a mentality that is further to the left than they want to admit. Come to the left side, we have memes.

something something the left can't meme

[The Parkus Empire]

Where do I start with Lenin? Theory of the Partisan, by Carl Schmitt, sold me on his importance

[United Muscovite Nations]

Where do I start with Lenin? Theory of the Partisan, by Carl Schmitt, sold me on his importance

What is to be Done? and The State and Revolution

[Canadensia]

It's rather antithetical to the spirit of democracy.

Also counter-intuitive to the intent of such a system. You aren't a patriotic citizen exercising your right to vote if you're being forced to do so.

Most don't criminalize it like that, but rather fine you for failing to vote. Hardly "Force." it's more of a "If you cba to do your duty we're going to fine you 20 dollars." Not ideal, but not so bad.

Yes, I know.

It's still forceful even when it's just a fine. Making it illegal not to vote is inherently authoritarian, and antithetical to the objective that such a law is trying to achieve.

[Reikoku]

Which was better - Young Marx or Old Marx?

[Jelmatt]

Which was better - Young Marx or Old Marx?

I'll go with young Marx. I've never been a Marxist, though, so take this with a grain of salt.

[Reikoku]

Which was better - Young Marx or Old Marx?

I'll go with young Marx. I've never been a Marxist, though, so take this with a grain of salt.

Neither have I. Young Marx seems a lot better though.

[Cekoviu]

Which was better - Young Marx or Old Marx?

As in attractiveness or politics?

[Jelmatt]

Which was better - Young Marx or Old Marx?

As in attractiveness or politics?

Why not both?

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Why not both?

Well, they both have things to offer. Early Marx was still coming out of his days as a young Hegelian. Old Marx was developing more of an institutional approach to society. Personally, I think that Marx matured with age, as most do, and figured out what worked and what did not.

[Jelmatt]

Why not both?

Well, they both have things to offer. Early Marx was still coming out of his days as a young Hegelian. Old Marx was developing more of an institutional approach to society. Personally, I think that Marx matured with age, as most do, and figured out what worked and what did not.

...the "both" was referring to attractiveness and politics.

[Mattopilos II]

D...did I just agree with a nationalist?
Forgive me Stalin, I have sinned.

Stalin wasn't exactly an internationalist.

Given the whole socialism in one country thing....