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Favorite Left Wing Novelist or Playwright

George Orwell
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63%
Leo Tolstoy
28
13%
Maxim Gorky
4
2%
Oscar Wilde
17
8%
John Sommerfield
1
0%
Nikolay Ostrovsky
3
1%
Andrei Bely
1
0%
John Steinbeck
22
10%
Arthur Miller
6
3%
 
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu May 03, 2018 6:40 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Who was the greatest Soviet leader and why was it Brezhnev?

Stalin was a traitor to the Revolution. Discuss.

Stalin saved the revolution.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu May 03, 2018 6:40 pm

Mosleyite Britannia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Stalin was a traitor to the Revolution. Discuss.

Objectively false, Stalin was the Revolution.

The Revolution cannot be reduced to an individual, that is just borderline-Tsarism.

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Postby Great Minarchistan » Thu May 03, 2018 6:41 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Mosleyite Britannia wrote:Objectively false, Stalin was the Revolution.

The Revolution cannot be reduced to an individual, that is just borderline-Tsarism.

Revolutionary Autocratic Tsarism, camarade. :^)
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu May 03, 2018 6:41 pm

Valgora wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:It's Tsar because
1) the T isn't silent, so it can't be the ones with the C
2) the sound isn't a z

Last time I checked C is an acceptable spelling.
Also, I've never heard the T in it. It sounds like zar every time I've heard it.

The letter is ц, which is pronounced like ts in molodets.
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Thu May 03, 2018 6:41 pm

When did I ever identify myself as rightwing?!? I said my social views are right leaning, I've never labeled myself as definitively left or right. I don't even like using those terms.


You said that you read an article on right-wing populism, and you agreed with most of it. A couple of weeks later, you pointed out that you referred to yourself in that way. I responded that I would never call you a right-wing populist if you rejected the term.
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Postby Mosleyite Britannia » Thu May 03, 2018 6:42 pm

Genivaria wrote:The Revolution cannot be reduced to an individual, that is just borderline-Tsarism.

All I hear is "blah, blah, social democratic counter-revolutionism, blah blah"
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My countrymen, my blood spills for you and for Egypt. I will live for your sake and die for the sake of your freedom and honor. Let them kill me; it does not concern me so long as I have instilled pride, honor, and freedom in you. If Gamal Abdel Nasser should die, each of you shall be Gamal Abdel Nasser ... Gamal Abdel Nasser is of you and from you and he is willing to sacrifice his life for the nation.
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Postby Valgora » Thu May 03, 2018 6:42 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Who was the greatest Soviet leader and why was it Brezhnev?

Stalin was a traitor to the Revolution. Discuss.

Yes, although he did save the USSR from the fascist menace and the world as well.
Or we could attribute that to the Soviet soldiers who's blood helped to win the war.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu May 03, 2018 6:42 pm

Mosleyite Britannia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:The Revolution cannot be reduced to an individual, that is just borderline-Tsarism.

All I hear is "blah, blah, social democratic counter-revolutionism, blah blah"

I think you mean "social fascists."
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Thu May 03, 2018 6:43 pm

I like the way the opening page of the thread looks. Very professional.
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Postby Mosleyite Britannia » Thu May 03, 2018 6:43 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Mosleyite Britannia wrote:All I hear is "blah, blah, social democratic counter-revolutionism, blah blah"

I think you mean "social fascists."

Kerensky was the OG fash
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My countrymen, my blood spills for you and for Egypt. I will live for your sake and die for the sake of your freedom and honor. Let them kill me; it does not concern me so long as I have instilled pride, honor, and freedom in you. If Gamal Abdel Nasser should die, each of you shall be Gamal Abdel Nasser ... Gamal Abdel Nasser is of you and from you and he is willing to sacrifice his life for the nation.
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Postby Geneviev » Thu May 03, 2018 6:43 pm

The title is very nice.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu May 03, 2018 6:44 pm

Valgora wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Stalin was a traitor to the Revolution. Discuss.

Yes, although he did save the USSR from the fascist menace and the world as well.
Or we could attribute that to the Soviet soldiers who's blood helped to win the war.

Obligatory serious moment.
https://youtu.be/DwKPFT-RioU?t=290

A solemn moment for this tragic waste of human life.
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Postby New Emeline » Thu May 03, 2018 6:48 pm

no poll yet?
tis a sad day comrades

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Postby West Leas Oros » Thu May 03, 2018 6:49 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:New Poll: What should the first poll of the new thread be? We are deciding with Democratic Centralism now comrades.


Who was the greatest Soviet leader and why was it Brezhnev?

Because Stalin was a traitor, Lenin died before the USSR was actually any good, and Gorbachev ruined everything. *breathes in* Malenkov supported a coup, Khrushchev started the Cuban missile crisis, Andropov continued the War in Afghanistan, Chernenko only rose to prominence because of Brezhnev, and Yanayev help depose Gorbachev and bring Yeltsin to power. Phew.
Just your friendly neighborhood democratic socialist revisionist traitor.
PMT nation. Economically to the left of Karl Marx. Social justice is a bourgeois plot.
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies, like fascists and communists. Or libertarians and communists. Or social democrats and communists. Or communists and other communists! Damn commies, they ruined communism!"

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.

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Postby Corneliu Zelea Codreanu » Thu May 03, 2018 6:50 pm

Hasta Siempre Victoria!
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Postby Mosleyite Britannia » Thu May 03, 2018 6:51 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:Because Stalin was a traitor, Lenin died before the USSR was actually any good, and Gorbachev ruined everything. *breathes in* Malenkov supported a coup, Khrushchev started the Cuban missile crisis, Andropov continued the War in Afghanistan, Chernenko only rose to prominence because of Brezhnev, and Yanayev help depose Gorbachev and bring Yeltsin to power. Phew.

But Brezhnev defined the corrupt Soviet party oligarch, putting many of his cronies into positions of power where they enriched themselves. Andropov all the way.
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My countrymen, my blood spills for you and for Egypt. I will live for your sake and die for the sake of your freedom and honor. Let them kill me; it does not concern me so long as I have instilled pride, honor, and freedom in you. If Gamal Abdel Nasser should die, each of you shall be Gamal Abdel Nasser ... Gamal Abdel Nasser is of you and from you and he is willing to sacrifice his life for the nation.
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Postby Mosleyite Britannia » Thu May 03, 2018 6:52 pm

Damn this poll is hard. It's a tossup between Social Fascists, kulaks or capitalists.
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My countrymen, my blood spills for you and for Egypt. I will live for your sake and die for the sake of your freedom and honor. Let them kill me; it does not concern me so long as I have instilled pride, honor, and freedom in you. If Gamal Abdel Nasser should die, each of you shall be Gamal Abdel Nasser ... Gamal Abdel Nasser is of you and from you and he is willing to sacrifice his life for the nation.
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Postby West Leas Oros » Thu May 03, 2018 6:52 pm

Mosleyite Britannia wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:Because Stalin was a traitor, Lenin died before the USSR was actually any good, and Gorbachev ruined everything. *breathes in* Malenkov supported a coup, Khrushchev started the Cuban missile crisis, Andropov continued the War in Afghanistan, Chernenko only rose to prominence because of Brezhnev, and Yanayev help depose Gorbachev and bring Yeltsin to power. Phew.

But Brezhnev defined the corrupt Soviet party oligarch, putting many of his cronies into positions of power where they enriched themselves. Andropov all the way.

Andropov only led for 15 months. Pathetic.
Just your friendly neighborhood democratic socialist revisionist traitor.
PMT nation. Economically to the left of Karl Marx. Social justice is a bourgeois plot.
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies, like fascists and communists. Or libertarians and communists. Or social democrats and communists. Or communists and other communists! Damn commies, they ruined communism!"

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.

WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.

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Postby Genivaria » Thu May 03, 2018 6:53 pm

What about Trotsky?

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Postby Genivaria » Thu May 03, 2018 6:53 pm

Mosleyite Britannia wrote:Damn this poll is hard. It's a tossup between Social Fascists, kulaks or capitalists.

Social Democratic Fascists

I'm feeling attacked right now. :p

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Postby New Emeline » Thu May 03, 2018 6:53 pm

Corneliu Zelea Codreanu wrote:Hasta Siempre Victoria!

what

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Postby Mosleyite Britannia » Thu May 03, 2018 6:54 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:Andropov only led for 15 months. Pathetic.

I see you prefer quantity over quality. That kind of industrialist thinking is unbecoming.
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My countrymen, my blood spills for you and for Egypt. I will live for your sake and die for the sake of your freedom and honor. Let them kill me; it does not concern me so long as I have instilled pride, honor, and freedom in you. If Gamal Abdel Nasser should die, each of you shall be Gamal Abdel Nasser ... Gamal Abdel Nasser is of you and from you and he is willing to sacrifice his life for the nation.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu May 03, 2018 6:54 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Corneliu Zelea Codreanu wrote:Hasta Siempre Victoria!

what

Until victory always.
Odd thing to randomly shout.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasta_Siempre,_Comandante
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Postby West Leas Oros » Thu May 03, 2018 6:55 pm

The poll has Kulaks in it. A N G E R Y
Just your friendly neighborhood democratic socialist revisionist traitor.
PMT nation. Economically to the left of Karl Marx. Social justice is a bourgeois plot.
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies, like fascists and communists. Or libertarians and communists. Or social democrats and communists. Or communists and other communists! Damn commies, they ruined communism!"

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.

WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.

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Postby S i t k a » Thu May 03, 2018 6:55 pm

*pokes head in timidly*

*tries and fails to think of something relevant to say*

*ah well, there's always the next thread*
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