LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan

[Proctopeo]

I was generally under the impression that like Hitler, the guy behind "Prussian Socialism" (Prussianism?) had no idea what socialism was, and just thought it sounded cool so he used it in his ideology's name.

Yep. He called his party a socialist workers' party and put his flag on a red field to fool commies/socialists/labor into voting for him. He made the three colors the same three as the imperial flag and called his party a German national party to fool conservatives into voting for him. He slapped a big giant symbol for "muh indo-europeans" on it to get more votes from proto-nazis.

radical centrist
if you appeal to everyone you get votes from everyone and therefore you win

[Torrocca]

This is some seriously terrible economics for the modern era. :^)

Ah, the same modern era that has seen sluggish economic growth due to crowded out investment participation on the economy? I see what you are advocating for now :^)

Yeah, Fully Automated Luxury Hella Queer Space Anarchy. Bonus points because it'll snuff out your insidious little ideology :^)

[Proctopeo]

Ah, the same modern era that has seen sluggish economic growth due to crowded out investment participation on the economy? I see what you are advocating for now :^)

Yeah, Fully Automated Luxury Hella Queer Space Anarchy. Bonus points because it'll snuff out your insidious little ideology :^)

Nothing insidious about classical liberalism ::^^))

[Uxupox]

Yeah, Fully Automated Luxury Hella Queer Space Anarchy. Bonus points because it'll snuff out your insidious little ideology :^)

Nothing insidious about classical liberalism ::^^))

John Locke is truly the founder of all that is coherent and rational. Truly a worthy addition to the house of wisdom.

[Torrocca]

Yeah, Fully Automated Luxury Hella Queer Space Anarchy. Bonus points because it'll snuff out your insidious little ideology :^)

Nothing insidious about classical liberalism ::^^))

t. Thomas Jefferson

:^)

[Democratic Communist Federation]

My supposedly best friend just called me an evil man over the phone because I don't believe he is a prophet. What a weird world we live in. Maybe communism will fix the world, but I doubt my friend will benefit.

[Proctopeo]

Nothing insidious about classical liberalism ::^^))

t. Thomas Jefferson

:^)

I've got nothing against Jefferson, except his ownership of slaves. Which, for the time, was the norm for the rich and educated, so I won't hold it against him.

My supposedly best friend just called me an evil man over the phone because I don't believe he is a prophet. What a weird world we live in. Maybe communism will fix the world, but I doubt my friend will benefit.

Maybe he is a prophet.

[Salus Maior]

t. Thomas Jefferson

:^)

I've got nothing against Jefferson, except his ownership of slaves. Which, for the time, was the norm for the rich and educated, so I won't hold it against him.

My supposedly best friend just called me an evil man over the phone because I don't believe he is a prophet. What a weird world we live in. Maybe communism will fix the world, but I doubt my friend will benefit.

Maybe he is a prophet.

A prophet of what?

[United Muscovite Nations]

You guys should decide who the next OP for the LWDT is, because I'm not OPing the next one.

PS: It shouldn't be a right winger.

[Torrocca]

t. Thomas Jefferson

:^)

I've got nothing against Jefferson, except his ownership of slaves. Which, for the time, was the norm for the rich and educated, so I won't hold it against him.

He literally raped a fuckton of his slaves Proct, pls. Never mind the fact that he was enslaving people which was in and of itself heinous and should be condemned regardless, considering there were plenty of people that didn't own slaves.

[Torrocca]

You guys should decide who the next OP for the LWDT is, because I'm not OPing the next one.

PS: It shouldn't be a right winger.

I vote myself <3

[Proctopeo]

I've got nothing against Jefferson, except his ownership of slaves. Which, for the time, was the norm for the rich and educated, so I won't hold it against him.


Maybe he is a prophet.

A prophet of what?

Abrahamism Part 4

I've got nothing against Jefferson, except his ownership of slaves. Which, for the time, was the norm for the rich and educated, so I won't hold it against him.

He literally raped a fuckton of his slaves Proct, pls. Never mind the fact that he was enslaving people which was in and of itself heinous and should be condemned regardless, considering there were plenty of people that didn't own slaves.

Ah well. His basic principles are what matter :^)

[United Muscovite Nations]

You guys should decide who the next OP for the LWDT is, because I'm not OPing the next one.

PS: It shouldn't be a right winger.

I vote myself <3

I'll second it just because I don't want non-Leftists who have overrun the thread to OP it.

[Valgora]

t. Thomas Jefferson

:^)

I've got nothing against Jefferson, except his ownership of slaves. Which, for the time, was the norm for the rich and educated, so I won't hold it against him.

Honestly, it simply being the norm for the time doesn't make it any better.

There's only want group of people who it was ok for them to have slaves because it was the norm for the time... the Vikings. Because they were badass.

[Proctopeo]

I've got nothing against Jefferson, except his ownership of slaves. Which, for the time, was the norm for the rich and educated, so I won't hold it against him.

Honestly, it simply being the norm for the time doesn't make it any better.

There's only want group of people who it was ok for them to have slaves because it was the norm for the time... the Vikings. Because they were badass.

Seems arbitrary.
Regardless, at the time it wasn't even legal to emancipate your own slaves, so if you inherited them you're kinda stuck with them.

[Uxupox]

I've got nothing against Jefferson, except his ownership of slaves. Which, for the time, was the norm for the rich and educated, so I won't hold it against him.

Honestly, it simply being the norm for the time doesn't make it any better.

There's only want group of people who it was ok for them to have slaves because it was the norm for the time... the Vikings. Because they were badass.

nah. the aztecs and mayans.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Honestly, it simply being the norm for the time doesn't make it any better.

There's only want group of people who it was ok for them to have slaves because it was the norm for the time... the Vikings. Because they were badass.

Seems arbitrary.
Regardless, at the time it wasn't even legal to emancipate your own slaves, so if you inherited them you're kinda stuck with them.

It was absolutely legal to emancipate your slaves, and it happened all the time for various reasons.

Also, holding everyone to universal moral standards is the opposite of arbitrary. Judging people according to the culture in which they live is what is arbitrary.

[Valgora]

Honestly, it simply being the norm for the time doesn't make it any better.

There's only want group of people who it was ok for them to have slaves because it was the norm for the time... the Vikings. Because they were badass.

Seems arbitrary.
Regardless, at the time it wasn't even legal to emancipate your own slaves, so if you inherited them you're kinda stuck with them.

It was legal to emancipate your own slaves.
That's what Washington did (he did it in his will which really said when his wife died but she just freed their slaves after his death).

[Torrocca]

A prophet of what?

Abrahamism Part 4

He literally raped a fuckton of his slaves Proct, pls. Never mind the fact that he was enslaving people which was in and of itself heinous and should be condemned regardless, considering there were plenty of people that didn't own slaves.

Ah well. His basic principles are what matter :^)

His principles were shit :^)

[Uxupox]

Seems arbitrary.
Regardless, at the time it wasn't even legal to emancipate your own slaves, so if you inherited them you're kinda stuck with them.

It was absolutely legal to emancipate your slaves, and it happened all the time for various reasons.

Also, holding everyone to universal moral standards is the opposite of arbitrary. Judging people according to the culture in which they live is what is arbitrary.

Says?

[Proctopeo]

Seems arbitrary.
Regardless, at the time it wasn't even legal to emancipate your own slaves, so if you inherited them you're kinda stuck with them.

It was absolutely legal to emancipate your slaves, and it happened all the time for various reasons.

IIRC isn't the whole "you can't legally do that" why Washington still owned slaves, despite hating the institution?

Also, holding everyone to universal moral standards is the opposite of arbitrary. Judging people according to the culture in which they live is what is arbitrary.

Looking at things in the context of the time is superior to pretending that applying modern standards to people hundreds of years ago makes any sense.

[Musk]

Yep. He called his party a socialist workers' party and put his flag on a red field to fool commies/socialists/labor into voting for him. He made the three colors the same three as the imperial flag and called his party a German national party to fool conservatives into voting for him. He slapped a big giant symbol for "muh indo-europeans" on it to get more votes from proto-nazis.

radical centrist
if you appeal to everyone you get votes from everyone and therefore you win

There's actually zero difference between rotfront and reactionaries, you imbecile, you f*cking dummkopf.

[Great Minarchistan]

Ah, the same modern era that has seen sluggish economic growth due to crowded out investment participation on the economy? I see what you are advocating for now :^)

Yeah, Fully Automated Luxury Hella Queer Space Anarchy. Bonus points because it'll snuff out your insidious little ideology :^)

Your ideology is no different from mine at the core, both of them are savagely productivist :^)

Difference lies on how quick are both when it boils down to progress achievement, and when it comes to this we marginalists excel the marxists -- that are just marginalists fetishized with the word "labor", enough to forget what is math :^)

[Great Minarchistan]

I've got nothing against Jefferson, except his ownership of slaves. Which, for the time, was the norm for the rich and educated, so I won't hold it against him.

He literally raped a fuckton of his slaves Proct, pls. Never mind the fact that he was enslaving people which was in and of itself heinous and should be condemned regardless, considering there were plenty of people that didn't own slaves.

In the meanwhile Marx was the father of a illegitimate child which was never recognized by him. Sounds a bit tyrannical, doesn't it?

[Democratic Communist Federation]

I vote myself <3

Sure, why not?