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by Dumb Ideologies » Tue May 08, 2018 2:39 pm


by West Leas Oros » Tue May 08, 2018 2:39 pm
Democratic Communist Federation wrote:Threlizdun wrote:So yes, feminism is indispensable to equality and it is indispensable to socialism, as it understands the relation gender roles and the patriarchy hold to the maintenance of capitalism, white supremacy, colonialism, cissexism, heterosexism, and ableism, and that one cannot be challenged without challenging the others.
Yep, and Michel Foucault, who began as a Marxist and then moved to social semiotics (poststructuralism), understood these relations better than most. You presented a brilliant intersectional analysis.
I think that we need to appreciate, in this thread, that we have people here from a variety of positions. Some are Leftists. Some are not. However, even among us Leftists, in the real communist world, most of us would be divided into tendencies or currents that hardly, if ever, even speak with each other.
Rather than expecting agreement (because that simply won't happen here), I think it is better to try to respectfully appreciate the perspectives of others without becoming aggressive or insulting.
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.
WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.

by The South Falls » Tue May 08, 2018 2:40 pm

by Torrocca » Tue May 08, 2018 2:40 pm
West Leas Oros wrote:Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Yep, and Michel Foucault, who began as a Marxist and then moved to social semiotics (poststructuralism), understood these relations better than most. You presented a brilliant intersectional analysis.
I think that we need to appreciate, in this thread, that we have people here from a variety of positions. Some are Leftists. Some are not. However, even among us Leftists, in the real communist world, most of us would be divided into tendencies or currents that hardly, if ever, even speak with each other.
Rather than expecting agreement (because that simply won't happen here), I think it is better to try to respectfully appreciate the perspectives of others without becoming aggressive or insulting.
Much like the RL left, we all have very different values.

by The Parkus Empire » Tue May 08, 2018 2:41 pm
Democratic Communist Federation wrote:Threlizdun wrote:So yes, feminism is indispensable to equality and it is indispensable to socialism, as it understands the relation gender roles and the patriarchy hold to the maintenance of capitalism, white supremacy, colonialism, cissexism, heterosexism, and ableism, and that one cannot be challenged without challenging the others.
Yep, and Michel Foucault, who began as a Marxist and then moved to social semiotics (poststructuralism), understood these relations better than most. You presented a brilliant intersectional analysis.
I think that we need to appreciate, in this thread, that we have people here from a variety of positions. Some are Leftists. Some are not. However, even among us Leftists, in the real communist world, most of us would be divided into tendencies or currents that hardly, if ever, even speak with each other.
Rather than expecting agreement (because that simply won't happen here), I think it is better to try to respectfully appreciate the perspectives of others without becoming aggressive or insulting.

by The South Falls » Tue May 08, 2018 2:44 pm

by Genivaria » Tue May 08, 2018 2:46 pm
The South Falls wrote:Torrocca wrote:
Unlike the RL left, though, we have some semblance of left-unity here (except with the authoritarian bois) ^_^
We've got people like you, who are anarcho-leftists. We've also got the SPD'ers, like me, the communists, the neoleftists, and the socialists. We don't have that much unity.

by Aillyria » Tue May 08, 2018 2:46 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Yep, and Michel Foucault, who began as a Marxist and then moved to social semiotics (poststructuralism), understood these relations better than most. You presented a brilliant intersectional analysis.
I think that we need to appreciate, in this thread, that we have people here from a variety of positions. Some are Leftists. Some are not. However, even among us Leftists, in the real communist world, most of us would be divided into tendencies or currents that hardly, if ever, even speak with each other.
Rather than expecting agreement (because that simply won't happen here), I think it is better to try to respectfully appreciate the perspectives of others without becoming aggressive or insulting.
That's really all we on the right have been saying, the revolutions and such are pretty vulgar and unnecessary.
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
......
Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist
West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".

by Democratic Communist Federation » Tue May 08, 2018 2:46 pm
West Leas Oros wrote:Much like the RL left, we all have very different values.
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by West Leas Oros » Tue May 08, 2018 2:47 pm
Genivaria wrote:The South Falls wrote:We've got people like you, who are anarcho-leftists. We've also got the SPD'ers, like me, the communists, the neoleftists, and the socialists. We don't have that much unity.
Is authoritarian and anarcho the only leftist though?
I like my governments free thank you.
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.
WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.

by Torrocca » Tue May 08, 2018 2:47 pm
Genivaria wrote:The South Falls wrote:We've got people like you, who are anarcho-leftists. We've also got the SPD'ers, like me, the communists, the neoleftists, and the socialists. We don't have that much unity.
Is authoritarian and anarcho the only leftist though?
I like my governments free thank you.

by The Parkus Empire » Tue May 08, 2018 2:48 pm

by Genivaria » Tue May 08, 2018 2:48 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Yep, and Michel Foucault, who began as a Marxist and then moved to social semiotics (poststructuralism), understood these relations better than most. You presented a brilliant intersectional analysis.
I think that we need to appreciate, in this thread, that we have people here from a variety of positions. Some are Leftists. Some are not. However, even among us Leftists, in the real communist world, most of us would be divided into tendencies or currents that hardly, if ever, even speak with each other.
Rather than expecting agreement (because that simply won't happen here), I think it is better to try to respectfully appreciate the perspectives of others without becoming aggressive or insulting.
That's really all we on the right have been saying, the revolutions and such are pretty vulgar and unnecessary.

by Democratic Communist Federation » Tue May 08, 2018 2:48 pm
Torrocca wrote:Unlike the RL left, though, we have some semblance of left-unity here (except with the authoritarian bois) ^_^
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by The Parkus Empire » Tue May 08, 2018 2:48 pm

by Dumb Ideologies » Tue May 08, 2018 2:49 pm
The South Falls wrote:Torrocca wrote:
Unlike the RL left, though, we have some semblance of left-unity here (except with the authoritarian bois) ^_^
We've got people like you, who are anarcho-leftists. We've also got the SPD'ers, like me, the communists, the neoleftists, and the socialists. We don't have that much unity.

by The South Falls » Tue May 08, 2018 2:49 pm
Genivaria wrote:The South Falls wrote:We've got people like you, who are anarcho-leftists. We've also got the SPD'ers, like me, the communists, the neoleftists, and the socialists. We don't have that much unity.
Is authoritarian and anarcho the only leftist though?
I like my governments free thank you.

by Democratic Communist Federation » Tue May 08, 2018 2:49 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:That's really all we on the right have been saying, the revolutions and such are pretty vulgar and unnecessary.
[color=#ff0000]Member,[/color] [url=https://www.nationstates.net/nation=democratic_communist_federation/detail=factbook/id=870177][color=#ff0000][u]Antifa Dialectical metaRealism[/u][/color][/url]
by Genivaria » Tue May 08, 2018 2:49 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:Aillyria wrote:Revolution is necessary, in fact, the west is long overdue,
Yes, but when the revolution comes here it won't be pretty.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... -the-rise/
For the bete noire of Orban’s campaign was uber-globalist George Soros

by Aillyria » Tue May 08, 2018 2:50 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:Aillyria wrote:Revolution is necessary, in fact, the west is long overdue,
Yes, but when the revolution comes here it won't be pretty.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... -the-rise/
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
......
Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist
West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".

by Torrocca » Tue May 08, 2018 2:51 pm

by The Parkus Empire » Tue May 08, 2018 2:51 pm
Genivaria wrote:The Parkus Empire wrote:Yes, but when the revolution comes here it won't be pretty.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... -the-rise/For the bete noire of Orban’s campaign was uber-globalist George Soros
Pfffftt.

by West Leas Oros » Tue May 08, 2018 2:51 pm
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.
WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.

by Dumb Ideologies » Tue May 08, 2018 2:52 pm

by Torrocca » Tue May 08, 2018 2:52 pm
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