This sounds like something you'd read verbatim on r/iamverysmart, not gonna lie.
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by Torrocca » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:29 pm
by Democratic Communist Federation » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:29 pm
Paulo Freire wrote:Paulo Freire (Portugese/Português), 1921–1997, a Portugese–speaking Brazilian educator, developed critical pedagogy (Hebrew, פֶּדָגוֹגְית הַבִּקָּרְתִּית, pẹḏāḡōḡəyṯ hạ–biqqārətiyṯ), which I use, as best I can, in my classes. According to Freire, the educational process, through critical pedagogy, needs to impart the emancipatory power of conscientization (Hebrew, תּוֹדָעָה שֶׁל הַעַצְמִית, tōḏāʾāh šẹl hạ–ʿạṣəmiyṯ, “self–consciousness”). This English–language rendering of the originally Portuguese term, conscientização, was employed by Paulo Freire for class consciousness. Conscientization was the epistemic basis for the consciousness raising of the women’s liberation movement in the 1970s. Freire’s coined term, conscientização, was based upon the French word conscience, which, unlike its English–language cognate, can be translated as either “conscience” or “consciousness.”
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by Great Minarchistan » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:32 pm
by Torrocca » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:35 pm
by Nekokuni » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:37 pm
Democratic Communist Federation wrote:Here is my own summary of Freire:Paulo Freire wrote:Paulo Freire (Portugese/Português), 1921–1997, a Portugese–speaking Brazilian educator, developed critical pedagogy (Hebrew, פֶּדָגוֹגְית הַבִּקָּרְתִּית, pẹḏāḡōḡəyṯ hạ–biqqārətiyṯ), which I use, as best I can, in my classes. According to Freire, the educational process, through critical pedagogy, needs to impart the emancipatory power of conscientization (Hebrew, תּוֹדָעָה שֶׁל הַעַצְמִית, tōḏāʾāh šẹl hạ–ʿạṣəmiyṯ, “self–consciousness”). This English–language rendering of the originally Portuguese term, conscientização, was employed by Paulo Freire for class consciousness. Conscientization was the epistemic basis for the consciousness raising of the women’s liberation movement in the 1970s. Freire’s coined term, conscientização, was based upon the French word conscience, which, unlike its English–language cognate, can be translated as either “conscience” or “consciousness.”
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by Great Minarchistan » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:38 pm
by Valgora » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:39 pm
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by Torrocca » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:49 pm
by Great Minarchistan » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:51 pm
Valgora wrote:I'm not going to lie, I do doubt what you're saying some extent.
I doubt that large amounts of "leftist" ideas are filling up everything in all your classes.
Valgora wrote:Plus, if someone is talking about future societies, it shouldn't be a surprise that they would talk about economics or even about modern economics if it pertains to what they are talking about.
by Great Minarchistan » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:52 pm
Torrocca wrote:One day you'll realize the plight of the impoverished and join your revolutionary comrades <3
by Torrocca » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:55 pm
by Great Minarchistan » Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:08 pm
by Torrocca » Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:09 pm
by Great Minarchistan » Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:28 pm
by Liriena » Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:41 pm
Great Minarchistan wrote:the current economic system, branding it as neoliberalism.
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by Liriena » Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:42 pm
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Great Minarchistan wrote:Currently on high school, and lotsa teachers are basically trying to spit left-wing propaganda on our heads. Sociology, Philosophy, History and even theoretical P.E. classes and physics -- for instance, I've went to a seminar on advanced civilizations in space today, and the speaker devoted half of the time to shift from the topic just to rant on the current economic system, branding it as neoliberalism.
Ah. I’ll admit, schools should not be so highly politicized.
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by Liriena » Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:44 pm
Proctopeo wrote:Propaganda in education is shit and nobody should stand for it. Easier to weed out K through 12, though, because there's more control over what's being taught and who teaches it.
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by The United Colonies of Earth » Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:45 pm
by The United Colonies of Earth » Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:47 pm
Liriena wrote:Proctopeo wrote:He wouldn't be complaining about it if it were great.
I trust that Great Minarchistan is being sincere about their observations, but I would apply a bit of skepticism towards any person's anecdotal description of the quality of their entire education system, specially when it's on political grounds.Proctopeo wrote:Propaganda in education is shit and nobody should stand for it. Easier to weed out K through 12, though, because there's more control over what's being taught and who teaches it.
Would you consider the simplistic dramatizations of national history typical of pre-secondary education in some way propagandistic?
by Liriena » Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:52 pm
The United Colonies of Earth wrote:, to respect the value of the free expression of nonviolent opinions and the importance of luck and compassion, and to do what I've been incapable of doing after reading too much Miranda Yardley and integrate things that seem contradictory into one another.
It shouldn't make people more capable at defending lies and self-deceptions, though that seems to be the side effect of intelligence everywhere in which case I will lay that requirement aside. It should teach people to think about the underlying natures of things but not in a way that leaves them without anywhere to go.
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by The United Colonies of Earth » Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:06 pm
The United Colonies of Earth wrote:, to respect the value of the free expression of nonviolent opinions and the importance of luck and compassion, and to do what I've been incapable of doing after reading too much Miranda Yardley and integrate things that seem contradictory into one another.
It shouldn't make people more capable at defending lies and self-deceptions, though that seems to be the side effect of intelligence everywhere in which case I will lay that requirement aside. It should teach people to think about the underlying natures of things but not in a way that leaves them without anywhere to go.
I don't disagree with you. At all. However, the devil is in the details. The "hard" sciences aren't much of a problem, but how other fields of study are taught is inevitably going to be a political decision. And in many countries, the people in charge of making those decisions choose, due to their own political biases and interests, make decisions which seek to avoid critical thinking in those fields and reinforce traditional preconceptions, so as to maintain a cultural hegemony.
by Aellex » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:43 am
by Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:48 am
Aellex wrote:Liriena wrote:There's no such thing as an apolitical education system. Whichever content you choose to teach, the decision will be a political one.
I agree. I miss nationalist propaganda being the corner-stone of our educational system; we only have one hour of it a week in Middle and High School and that's clearly not enough.
by Aellex » Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:01 am
Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:You should be thankful that education in the West is not focused on nationalist propaganda
by Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:08 am
Aellex wrote:Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:You should be thankful that education in the West is not focused on nationalist propaganda
True Korea is Best Korea, as usual.
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