LWDT V: Completing the Five Thread Plan

[The Multiversal Communist Collective]

That is my experience. Comparing the best school in the Australian state I live in to a small town school in Russia, I can say that the Russian school is much better.

Statistically, American higher, or university, education is among the world's best. However, grade school-high school are quite bad based on global standards. It depends on the level.

[The Multiversal Communist Collective]

hey left wingers get off my money thieves

Why don't you restore your nation?

[Cekoviu]

hey left wingers get off my money thieves

Why don't you restore your nation?

You can't restore DEATed nations.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

You can't restore DEATed nations.

Oh, okay.

[Dumb Ideologies]

You can't restore DEATed nations.

Oh, okay.

I really preferred reading it as a finger-clicking moment of sass.

This clarification and "ah, so that's what it is" business has RUINED the whole thing for me. Regrettable!

[Puldania]

The only natural and authentic religion is the worship of the idea of the People. Most religions emerged as an elite-captured and corrupted version of this idea, twisting it to reify the position of the existing elite and substituting them for the community.

When you worship gods you worship the interests and mores of the elites of long-dead failed communities. There may be a closer fit in heritage terms for certain beliefs nearer their point of origin, or where they've been successfully imposed over years through coercion, but it will always be imperfect and far from natural.

Left-wing Christianity would love to have you over for dinner sometime.

I heard my name?

[Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol]

The only natural and authentic religion is the worship of the idea of the People. Most religions emerged as an elite-captured and corrupted version of this idea, twisting it to reify the position of the existing elite and substituting them for the community.

When you worship gods you worship the interests and mores of the elites of long-dead failed communities. There may be a closer fit in heritage terms for certain beliefs nearer their point of origin, or where they've been successfully imposed over years through coercion, but it will always be imperfect and far from natural.

Left-wing Christianity would love to have you over for dinner sometime.

Ew, I would rather be a sedevacantist...

[The New Sea Territory]

The Rodnovery are the only good pagans honestly. The rest are either neo-nazi Larpers or Wiccan hippies.

I disagree strongly as a Slavic pagan myself. The majority of "Rodnovery" aka Родная вера is Russia and Ukraine is based on literary forgeries and romantic ideology. We see Germanic paganism just finally starting to escape these for a more grounded reconstructionist approach, but Slavic polytheism is still in its infancy compared to other pagan reconstructionist religions.

[The New Sea Territory]

There are Nazis who believe in made up bullshit (google the Book of Veles), and then there are those of us who pour over historical manuscripts are read academic papers on comparative linguistics or history of religions in an attempt to reconstruct the pre-Christian beliefs of the Slavs. As far as I'm concerned, only one can be seriously called pagan Check out my work-in-progress blog, Solntsa Roshcha if you're interested in what that entails.

What does it mean to be Heideggerian anyway? His main philosophy is that we're all going to die.

Also he was a Nazi who fell in love with a Jew.

You're thinking of the early Heidegger. Before "the Turn", as he called it. he was interested in an existential phenomenology of human being-in-the-world (dasein). After "the Turn", he became interested in a deconstruction of metaphysics, by turning back to the presocratics and overcoming (not inverting, as Nietzsche had) Platonic conceptions of truth and contingency.

To be a Heideggerian, for me, is to recognize truth as "presencing" (Anwesen) or in the ancient Greek ἀλήθεια, literally and etymologically meaning "unhidden" or "unconcealed". Truth is a quality of a being's being, its being in the world. This is juxtaposed with truth as is what for Plato after the allegory of the cave, as correct interpretation, predominantly through vision. For Heidegger, and the presocratics (and even Homer), the world discloses itself to man. For Plato, there was "no knowledge" in sense-perception, only in thought. This is the first step to a critique of metaphysics as unable to answer the question, "what is being?"

I think that question is answered by Stirner's Der Einzige: being is unique being in the world, historically contingent and always posited/justified on nothing. This is exactly what Heidegger says in "What is Metaphsyics?", that any ontological statement (the book is red) is automatically a series of negations (the book is not not-red, it is not blue, etc). Further, he says that nothing is prior to negation, in the same way that Being is prior to beings (ontological difference 101).

Seeing metaphysics as a system which gives presence to things and conceals others, thus declaring for a historical moment its "truth", we can identify this presencing with structures in society, which I find to be exactly what Althusser meant by ideological state-apparatuses.

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I think Heidegger provides an intense framework to turn metaphysics against itself, and in doing so can link thinkers like Foucault (who was a Heideggerian), Althusser (also an antihumanist), Stirner (through Der Einzige, a unique being without form and purely anwesenheit), and Marx (because Heidegger in "Plato's Doctrine of Truth" recognizes that conceptions of value, which Marx attacks in volume 1 of Capital; also through "The Question Concerning Technology", as standing-reserve is basically making something an exchange-value).

[Pasong Tirad]

Left-wing Christianity would love to have you over for dinner sometime.

I heard my name?

I like you already.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

The only natural and authentic religion is the worship of the idea of the People. Most religions emerged as an elite-captured and corrupted version of this idea, twisting it to reify the position of the existing elite and substituting them for the community.

When you worship gods you worship the interests and mores of the elites of long-dead failed communities. There may be a closer fit in heritage terms for certain beliefs nearer their point of origin, or where they've been successfully imposed over years through coercion, but it will always be imperfect and far from natural.

Left-wing Christianity would love to have you over for dinner sometime.

I'll stick with right-wing atheism.

[Torrocca]

Left-wing Christianity would love to have you over for dinner sometime.

I'll stick with right-wing atheism.

I've found non-denominational Christian Agnosticism to be quite better, personally. The online Atheist community in particular grew too smugly abhorrent for my liking and drove me from such believes; beyond that, I've found there's a lot of good to learn from religious teachings, regardless of a belief in one deity or many.

[Gim]

I'll stick with right-wing atheism.

I've found non-denominational Christian Agnosticism to be quite better, personally. The online Atheist community in particular grew too smugly abhorrent for my liking and drove me from such believes; beyond that, I've found there's a lot of good to learn from religious teachings, regardless of a belief in one deity or many.

Always good to be neutral.

[Torrocca]

I've found non-denominational Christian Agnosticism to be quite better, personally. The online Atheist community in particular grew too smugly abhorrent for my liking and drove me from such believes; beyond that, I've found there's a lot of good to learn from religious teachings, regardless of a belief in one deity or many.

Always good to be neutral.

Yeah, like I'm not overly religious by any means, but there's good to be found in religious texts. Bad, too, sure, but that doesn't detract from the good.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

As a devoutly religious strong theist, I am probably in the minority here. Interestingly, most of my students assume that I am an atheist or an agnostic. When I tell them I am not, they are always surprised. However, I live in Kansas, where, to many people, not being a Christian and being an atheist are synonymous. The fact that I am a libertarian Marxist communist doesn't help either (even though one of my mentors, libertarian Marxist communist Roy Bhaskar, was also a theist).

[Free American Empire-]

As a devoutly religious strong theist, I am probably in the minority here. Interestingly, most of my students assume that I am an atheist or an agnostic. When I tell them I am not, they are always surprised. However, I live in Kansas, where, to many people, not being a Christian and being an atheist are synonymous. The fact that I am a libertarian Marxist communist doesn't help either (even though one of my mentors, libertarian Marxist communist Roy Bhaskar, was also a theist).

Well, to be honest, in past, I had an interest in Paganism, and didn't liked Christianity, because it was brought through sword to Baltics. However, now I couldn't care less about them both- I am an atheist.

[Cekoviu]

I'll stick with right-wing atheism.

I've found non-denominational Christian Agnosticism to be quite better, personally. The online Atheist community in particular grew too smugly abhorrent for my liking and drove me from such believes; beyond that, I've found there's a lot of good to learn from religious teachings, regardless of a belief in one deity or many.

It depends on the community, but I do agree that atheism is often a bit too smug. I especially dislike the anti-essjay variants that obsess over Islam, and I prefer to stick to PZ Myers-style Atheism+.

[Pasong Tirad]

I'll stick with right-wing atheism.

I've found non-denominational Christian Agnosticism to be quite better, personally. The online Atheist community in particular grew too smugly abhorrent for my liking and drove me from such believes; beyond that, I've found there's a lot of good to learn from religious teachings, regardless of a belief in one deity or many.

The brand of Catholic Liberation Theology I ascribe to (it isn't a different denomination, btw - more like a subgroup within Catholicism) is technically apolitical, but with liberation theology and its history being what it is, there are some very prominent left-wing elements that fit in nicely with the Christian left, an emphasis on the preferential option for the poor with a focus on getting rid of inequality and systemic barriers preventing the poor from getting an even playing field in society.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Well, to be honest, in past, I had an interest in Paganism, and didn't liked Christianity, because it was brought through sword to Baltics. However, now I couldn't care less about them both- I am an atheist.

Some of my students are also atheists. They also usually assume I am an atheist.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

The brand of Catholic Liberation Theology I ascribe to (it isn't a different denomination, btw - more like a subgroup within Catholicism) is technically apolitical, but with liberation theology and its history being what it is, there are some very prominent left-wing elements that fit in nicely with the Christian left, an emphasis on the preferential option for the poor with a focus on getting rid of inequality and systemic barriers preventing the poor from getting an even playing field in society.

I remember when Pope Paul tried his best to kill liberation theology in the 1960s and 1970s. For the most part, he succeeded, at least among the Latin American Jesuits.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Well, to be honest, in past, I had an interest in Paganism, and didn't liked Christianity, because it was brought through sword to Baltics. However, now I couldn't care less about them both- I am an atheist.

Some of my students are also atheists. They also usually assume I am an atheist.

If you ever have no atheist students you're lecturing in a seminary and they're just too polite to throw you out.

[Free American Empire-]

Well, to be honest, in past, I had an interest in Paganism, and didn't liked Christianity, because it was brought through sword to Baltics. However, now I couldn't care less about them both- I am an atheist.

Some of my students are also atheists. They also usually assume I am an atheist.

Well, I would not be surprised about that- left tends to be atheist, or agnostic. Of course, there's Christian communism too, and such, but usually religion is associated with right-wing.

[Salus Maior]

>centrists

no thanks there are enough milquetoast types with no real personal convictions or political beliefs

As someone who's a bit centrist I think of it more like this

[Cekoviu]

>centrists

no thanks there are enough milquetoast types with no real personal convictions or political beliefs

As someone who's a bit centrist I think of it more like this

You're a centrist? I always thought you were a theocratic monarchist.

[Benuty]

I disagree, the Rodnovery are pretty serious about it, and have actual rituals and beliefs.

So do evangelicals, doesn't change much

You would know a lot about larping wouldn't you Meri?