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Favorite Left Wing Novelist or Playwright

George Orwell
141
63%
Leo Tolstoy
28
13%
Maxim Gorky
4
2%
Oscar Wilde
17
8%
John Sommerfield
1
0%
Nikolay Ostrovsky
3
1%
Andrei Bely
1
0%
John Steinbeck
22
10%
Arthur Miller
6
3%
 
Total votes : 223

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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:02 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:So, some guy wants the US to take over Europe...

Nah, other way round mate.

RULE BRITANNIA!

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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:03 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:So, some guy wants the US to take over Europe...

Nah, other way round mate.

RULE BRITANNIA!

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Postby Liriena » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:03 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:So, some guy wants the US to take over Europe...

Nah, other way round mate.

RULE BRITANNIA!

Not until Chairman Jezza seizes the House of Commons, abolishes the House of Lords, and renames London "Corbyngrad".

I mean... can you imagine the US ruled by Theresa bloody May?
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:04 am

Liriena wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:So, some guy wants the US to take over Europe...

Nah, other way round mate.

RULE BRITANNIA!

Not until Chairman Jezza seizes the House of Commons, abolishes the House of Lords, and renames London "Corbyngrad".

I mean... can you imagine the US ruled by Theresa bloody May?

can we make a change.org petition to change London to Corbyngrad? because I will sign it with the force of a thousand Genghis Khans
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Postby Liriena » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:14 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Liriena wrote:Not until Chairman Jezza seizes the House of Commons, abolishes the House of Lords, and renames London "Corbyngrad".

I mean... can you imagine the US ruled by Theresa bloody May?

can we make a change.org petition to change London to Corbyngrad? because I will sign it with the force of a thousand Genghis Khans

We gotta make Dennis Skinner Eternal President of the Republic a la Kim Il-Sung too.
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For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:22 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Liriena wrote:Not until Chairman Jezza seizes the House of Commons, abolishes the House of Lords, and renames London "Corbyngrad".

I mean... can you imagine the US ruled by Theresa bloody May?

can we make a change.org petition to change London to Corbyngrad? because I will sign it with the force of a thousand Genghis Khans


You fools, don't you know the house of commons is inside a Tardis. Not even the forces of Genghis Khan could get through those doors!

I do have to agree though, Theresa May sucks (a big one). Maybe make Britain more militaristic but also maybe commie and maybe be more friendly with Europe then those idiotic twats across the Atlantic.
Yugoslavia's back baby...

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Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Is it a race of cyborg neo-life at war with any assimilating organisms they come across in the far far future? Who knows, who cares?
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Postby Liriena » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:24 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:can we make a change.org petition to change London to Corbyngrad? because I will sign it with the force of a thousand Genghis Khans


You fools, don't you know the house of commons is inside a Tardis. Not even the forces of Genghis Khan could get through those doors!

I do have to agree though, Theresa May sucks (a big one). Maybe make Britain more militaristic but also maybe commie and maybe be more friendly with Europe then those idiotic twats across the Atlantic.

A Tankie Britain?

Hmmm... I'll allow it.
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I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:50 am

Liriena wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
You fools, don't you know the house of commons is inside a Tardis. Not even the forces of Genghis Khan could get through those doors!

I do have to agree though, Theresa May sucks (a big one). Maybe make Britain more militaristic but also maybe commie and maybe be more friendly with Europe then those idiotic twats across the Atlantic.

A Tankie Britain?

Hmmm... I'll allow it.


But with actual tanks. BIG ONES.
(with lasers, and maybe dinosaurs just for good measures. Robot dinosaurs...piloted by cyborgs which in turn are pirates).
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Just sort of happened one day.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Is it a race of cyborg neo-life at war with any assimilating organisms they come across in the far far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Postby Liriena » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:55 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Liriena wrote:A Tankie Britain?

Hmmm... I'll allow it.


But with actual tanks. BIG ONES.
(with lasers, and maybe dinosaurs just for good measures. Robot dinosaurs...piloted by cyborgs which in turn are pirates).

Stop. I can only get so erect.
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I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:00 am

Liriena wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
But with actual tanks. BIG ONES.
(with lasers, and maybe dinosaurs just for good measures. Robot dinosaurs...piloted by cyborgs which in turn are pirates).

Stop. I can only get so erect.

Have we found an alternative to Viagra????
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:03 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Liriena wrote:Stop. I can only get so erect.

Have we found an alternative to Viagra????


What, you mean cyborg pirates piloting robot dinosaurs riding giant rat tank like laser tanks?
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Just sort of happened one day.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Is it a race of cyborg neo-life at war with any assimilating organisms they come across in the far far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Postby Liriena » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:05 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Liriena wrote:Stop. I can only get so erect.

Have we found an alternative to Viagra????

Big pharma hates him! CLICK to learn more.
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I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:07 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Have we found an alternative to Viagra????


What, you mean cyborg pirates piloting robot dinosaurs riding giant rat tank like laser tanks?

please stop, my pants can't take any more
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Postby West Leas Oros » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:15 am

Cekoviu wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
What, you mean cyborg pirates piloting robot dinosaurs riding giant rat tank like laser tanks?

please stop, my pants can't take any more

Would you nut if they were also giant bear space ninjas?
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:25 am

West Leas Oros wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:please stop, my pants can't take any more

Would you nut if they were also giant bear space ninjas?


No, too much.

Maybe.

But them being so small makes the giant laser tank look bigger.
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Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Just sort of happened one day.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Is it a race of cyborg neo-life at war with any assimilating organisms they come across in the far far future? Who knows, who cares?
New Yugoslavia just is.

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Postby The Multiversal Communist Collective » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:54 am

Mattopilos II wrote:Depends on the field, the university, the country....


What I said is true for most colleges and universities in the U.S. Yes, some fields tend to attract Leftists (post-1968 sociology in particular), but most of American academia is rather conservative.

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Postby Geneviev » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:57 am

The Multiversal Communist Collective wrote:
Mattopilos II wrote:Depends on the field, the university, the country....


What I said is true for most colleges and universities in the U.S. Yes, some fields tend to attract Leftists (post-1968 sociology in particular), but most of American academia is rather conservative.

UCLA. Every UC. Mostly UCLA.

Also, UC absolutely represents most of American academia.
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Postby The Multiversal Communist Collective » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:02 pm

Mattopilos II wrote:And now academia is bad.


I love sociology. It is a great field of study. I wish most of academia had as many leftists (particularly libertarian communists as someone else pointed out).

History varies. It depends on the department. With economics, only a tiny number are not proponents of classical economics (laissez-faire capitalism). Psychology departments were, in the 1970s, heading in a leftward direction, but most, since the 1980s, are not dominated by behaviorists.

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Postby The Multiversal Communist Collective » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:03 pm

Painisia wrote:I cannot wait going to university, studying social sciences and politics. But does one become more left-aligned, the more educated he is?


More educated people tend to be more tolerant and more left of center than the general population (based on polling and survey data).

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Postby The Multiversal Communist Collective » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:06 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Generally. A lot of conservative ideology is based on traditionalism without evidence, whereas liberals and leftists prefer to half-read secondhand pop-culture interpretations of academic reports. Going to institutions of higher education tend to tear down the former more than the latter.


Leftists read second-hand pop-culture interpretations of academic reports? Please provide evidence for that statement. (Hint. By the way, you won't.)

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Postby The Multiversal Communist Collective » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:10 pm

Cekoviu wrote:Um, what?? The vast majority of my professors in a state that Trump won by 20 points have been liberal or moderate.


Social science (with the exception of economics, for instance) and humanities professors are more likely to be liberal or moderate, as you say, than professors in the agricultural schools. However, overall, the popular stereotype of the leftist professor was, it seems to me, made by someone who was not an academic.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:10 pm

The Multiversal Communist Collective wrote:Leftists read second-hand pop-culture interpretations of academic reports? Please provide evidence for that statement. (Hint. By the way, you won't.)

Every ideologue must come to terms with the fact that most people on their side will never be as rigorous as they are, regardless of what ideology they follow. But sure, you leftists are the exception; I am sure you will all be brilliant academic warriors fighting for The Party. =^)
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Postby The Multiversal Communist Collective » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:16 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:No, education does not make a person more left-wing. It is just that Leftists are trying to maintain absolute control over humanities and social science faculties at the expense of conservative intellectuals and replace education with indoctrination.


In my field (sociology), we call what right-wingers misinterpret as indoctrination critical pedagogy (after Paulo Freire). The intent is not to indoctrinate people but to make them aware of the social and economic inequality and to encourage them to become part of the solution. That does not take away their free agency.

In my classes, for instance, I allow all views to be expressed, except for those that violate college policies. For instance, I recently had to remove a student who viciously attacked Blacks in one of my classes. We do not allow that kind of behavior (nor, I suspect, would almost any other college or university).
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Postby The Multiversal Communist Collective » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:21 pm

Geneviev wrote:UCLA. Every UC. Mostly UCLA.

Also, UC absolutely represents most of American academia.


Um. Actually, it doesn't.

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Postby The Multiversal Communist Collective » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:23 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Every ideologue must come to terms with the fact that most people on their side will never be as rigorous as they are, regardless of what ideology they follow. But sure, you leftists are the exception; I am sure you will all be brilliant academic warriors fighting for The Party. =^)


That is rhetoric, not evidence, which is what I asked for.

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