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Kubra wrote:

Ceolophysia wrote:You can't lack culture, unless you're the Spartans. Any art whatsoever is culture, not just the kind of art you like.

I bet you think a hot dog is food culture

The New California Republic wrote:

Ceolophysia wrote:Arts aren't necessary.

Technically clothes aren't necessary in warmer climates, but people still wear them.

And I disagree. Art in some form is necessary for most societies to function. Architecture, for example, relies heavily on art. Without it, we wouldn't have buildings...

The East Marches II wrote:

Kubra wrote: I bet you think a hot dog is food culture

Listen, you are the Marxist. Stop stilling my god damn lines. You are supposed to be the man of the people.

Kubra wrote:

Ceolophysia wrote:Technically it is. We only consider our culture not culture because we live in it.

Nah, ask any tourist here if they think a hot dog is culture, get a load of the look you'll get. Our view of culture is why we shall never bridge the gap of sallivating sauce and sautee.

Ceolophysia wrote:

The New California Republic wrote:Technically clothes aren't necessary in warmer climates, but people still wear them.

And I disagree. Art in some form is necessary for most societies to function. Architecture, for example, relies heavily on art. Without it, we wouldn't have buildings...

We don't need the gov't to fund clothes, though.

The New California Republic wrote:

Ceolophysia wrote:We don't need the gov't to fund clothes, though.

That wasn't my argument. I meant that the necessity of a thing isn't always an argument against said thing.

Ceolophysia wrote:

Kubra wrote: Nah, ask any tourist here if they think a hot dog is culture, get a load of the look you'll get. Our view of culture is why we shall never bridge the gap of sallivating sauce and sautee.

Does it even matter? Culture is subjective. It doesn't really matter what form it comes in. Your view of good culture isn't necessarily correct, and neither is mine. Stop acting like any opinion on this can possibly be factual.

Ceolophysia wrote:

The New California Republic wrote:That wasn't my argument. I meant that the necessity of a thing isn't always an argument against said thing.

It is for the government. I'd rather them not fund more things if we don't need them.

The New California Republic wrote:

Ceolophysia wrote:It is for the government. I'd rather them not fund more things if we don't need them.

Technically the White House gardens don't need to be landscaped, but they still do it anyway...

That train of thought, basing funding on need, leads us to some very weird places.

Ceolophysia wrote:

The New California Republic wrote:Technically the White House gardens don't need to be landscaped, but they still do it anyway...

That train of thought, basing funding on need, leads us to some very weird places.

The problem is, only crappy avant garde art ever gets government funding. A picture of a jar filled with piss that has a crucifix inside isn't that good of art, but that's the type of art the government usually funds.

Ceolophysia wrote:

The New California Republic wrote:Technically the White House gardens don't need to be landscaped, but they still do it anyway...

That train of thought, basing funding on need, leads us to some very weird places.

The problem is, only crappy avant garde art ever gets government funding. A picture of a jar filled with piss that has a crucifix inside isn't that good of art, but that's the type of art the government usually funds.

Ceolophysia wrote:A picture of a jar filled with piss that has a crucifix inside isn't that good of art, but that's the type of art the government usually funds.

Kubra wrote:

Ceolophysia wrote:The problem is, only crappy avant garde art ever gets government funding. A picture of a jar filled with piss that has a crucifix inside isn't that good of art, but that's the type of art the government usually funds.

oh well quite the judgement mister culture is subjective
A crucifix inside a jar of piss evokes thoughts of the nature of christ
What does marvel evoke

The New California Republic wrote:

Ceolophysia wrote:A picture of a jar filled with piss that has a crucifix inside isn't that good of art, but that's the type of art the government usually funds.

What gallery is that artwork currently being exhibited in? I may need to visit it.

Ceolophysia wrote:

Kubra wrote: oh well quite the judgement mister culture is subjective
A crucifix inside a jar of piss evokes thoughts of the nature of christ
What does marvel evoke

If something is popular, that makes it good. If it isn't, it's bad. Something offensive isn't going to be popular, but something innocuous will be.

Kubra wrote:

Ceolophysia wrote:If something is popular, that makes it good. If it isn't, it's bad. Something offensive isn't going to be popular, but something innocuous will be.

Popular=good you heard it here 1st folks
Since more copies of twilight are sold than copies of of Plato's dialogues, it's quite clear which are more worth reading.

Ceolophysia wrote:

The New California Republic wrote:What gallery is that artwork currently being exhibited in? I may need to visit it.

It's called "Piss Christ," but I can't find what museum it's being held at.

Ceolophysia wrote:

Kubra wrote: Popular=good you heard it here 1st folks
Since more copies of twilight are sold than copies of of Plato's dialogues, it's quite clear which are more worth reading.

If more people like it, then it's good for those people. I cant decide for other people whether a song, book, or movie is good or not, I can only decide for myself and hope others agree.

Conservative Feminism wrote:

Ceolophysia wrote:It's called "Piss Christ," but I can't find what museum it's being held at.

Hopefully in the same one as the Duchamp if it's in an earthquake prone area

Ceolophysia wrote:If something is popular, that makes it good. If it isn't, it's bad.

Ifreann wrote:

Ceolophysia wrote:If something is popular, that makes it good. If it isn't, it's bad.

How can anyone say such a thing?

Kubra wrote:

Ceolophysia wrote:If more people like it, then it's good for those people. I cant decide for other people whether a song, book, or movie is good or not, I can only decide for myself and hope others agree.

Oh yes, more people like teen fiction, even fully grown adults. Good for them, to forgo learning in favour of, well, teen fiction.

Ifreann wrote:

Ceolophysia wrote:If something is popular, that makes it good. If it isn't, it's bad.

How can anyone say such a thing?

Ceolophysia wrote:

Ifreann wrote:How can anyone say such a thing?

Because I cannot decide for others what is good art.

Kubra wrote: Oh yes, more people like teen fiction, even fully grown adults. Good for them, to forgo learning in favour of, well, teen fiction.

Maybe I'd prefer to read the Dialogues, but maybe others do not. It's not my place to make that decision for them.

Kubra wrote:

Conservative Feminism wrote:Hopefully in the same one as the Duchamp if it's in an earthquake prone area

which duchamp
You know, artists usually have multiple pieces, so you'll have to be more specific

Ceolophysia wrote:Cannibalism is bad.