Should the government fund arts?

[Ceolophysia]

Cannibalism is bad.

Are you implying that the rich are human? Ye gods, they're lizards! Lizards!

[Kubra]

which duchamp
You know, artists usually have multiple pieces, so you'll have to be more specific

If you're familiar with Duchamp, it should be fairly obvious...

Oh yes, imminently familiar, I did my masters thesis on dada. I assume you mean the L.H.O.O.Q, yes?

[Ceolophysia]

Because I cannot decide for others what is good art.

Maybe I'd prefer to read the Dialogues, but maybe others do not. It's not my place to make that decision for them.

Oh yes, victimless crime, except you know, our collective knowledge of scholarship. Bully for it, I say.
Besides, ain't you the one saying the "avant-garde" is shitty?

It's my opinion. Also, you are making out non-fiction and fiction to be the same. Sure, nonfiction might be necessary to learn, but a fiction book isn't, and one you like cannot be compared in importance to one you dislike.

[Kubra]

Oh yes, victimless crime, except you know, our collective knowledge of scholarship. Bully for it, I say.
Besides, ain't you the one saying the "avant-garde" is shitty?

It's my opinion. Also, you are making out non-fiction and fiction to be the same. Sure, nonfiction might be necessary to learn, but a fiction book isn't, and one you like cannot be compared in importance to one you dislike.

but plato's dialogues are literally fiction
they are plays of people discussing philosophy and occasionally fucking each other
those discussions didn't happen in rl
even the apology was just based off a true story, chances are there was a lot of artistic license taken. Less so than Xenophon, but hey, it is what it is.

[Conservative Feminism]

If you're familiar with Duchamp, it should be fairly obvious...

Oh yes, imminently familiar, I did my masters thesis on dada. I assume you mean the L.H.O.O.Q, yes?

Not sure why you decided to present such an attitude to my comment in the first place when it was completely unnessesary. Anyway, you dug your hole so I'll leave you to s(h)it in it, something for which the work of art in question would certainly not suffice, though apparently many a drunk person has tried.

[Kubra]

Oh yes, imminently familiar, I did my masters thesis on dada. I assume you mean the L.H.O.O.Q, yes?

Not sure why you decided to present such an attitude to my comment in the first place when it was completely unnessesary. Anyway, you dug your hole so I'll leave you to s(h)it in it, something for which the work of art in question would certainly not suffice.

Attitude? I'm merely asking which work in question you find so profane. I assumed it was the L.H.O.O.Q, because folks often have a very strong reaction to it. Was this an incorrect line of reasoning? I should like to know how, so I do not repeat my error.

[Ceolophysia]

It's my opinion. Also, you are making out non-fiction and fiction to be the same. Sure, nonfiction might be necessary to learn, but a fiction book isn't, and one you like cannot be compared in importance to one you dislike.

but plato's dialogues are literally fiction
they are plays of people discussing philosophy and occasionally fucking each other
those discussions didn't happen in rl
even the apology was just based off a true story, chances are there was a lot of artistic license taken. Less so than Xenophon, but hey, it is what it is.

There's levels of what you could consider important, but it's all subjective, so let an apathetic emo teen who reads Twilight be an apathetic emo teen who reads Twilight, and read what you want. Those things don't conflict.

[Kubra]

but plato's dialogues are literally fiction
they are plays of people discussing philosophy and occasionally fucking each other
those discussions didn't happen in rl
even the apology was just based off a true story, chances are there was a lot of artistic license taken. Less so than Xenophon, but hey, it is what it is.

There's levels of what you could consider important, but it's all subjective, so let an apathetic emo teen who reads Twilight be an apathetic emo teen who reads Twilight, and read what you want. Those things don't conflict.

But if I let him do so, he cannot contribute to our collective knowledge of anything other than twilight, and I'm all the worse off for it. No, we are all the worse off for it.

[Ceolophysia]

There's levels of what you could consider important, but it's all subjective, so let an apathetic emo teen who reads Twilight be an apathetic emo teen who reads Twilight, and read what you want. Those things don't conflict.

But if I let him do so, he cannot contribute to our collective knowledge of anything other than twilight, and I'm all the worse off for it. No, we are all the worse off for it.

Collective knowledge doesn't exist. There is only individual knowledge. You can choose not to interact with such types if you want to, but don't ruin their fun.

[Conservative Feminism]

Not sure why you decided to present such an attitude to my comment in the first place when it was completely unnessesary. Anyway, you dug your hole so I'll leave you to s(h)it in it, something for which the work of art in question would certainly not suffice.

Attitude? I'm merely asking which work in question you find so profane. I assumed it was the L.H.O.O.Q, because folks often have a very strong reaction to it. Was this an incorrect line of reasoning? I should like to know how, so I do not repeat my error.

Yeah sorry, I misread your post. I meant the urinal, in order to catch the other artwork in case of an emergency.

[Kubra]

But if I let him do so, he cannot contribute to our collective knowledge of anything other than twilight, and I'm all the worse off for it. No, we are all the worse off for it.

Collective knowledge doesn't exist. There is only individual knowledge. You can choose not to interact with such types if you want to, but don't ruin their fun.

Reading what others have wrote on subjects and listening to what they say on subjects is how we come to new ideas on subjects, bub. Welcome to academia.

[Kubra]

Attitude? I'm merely asking which work in question you find so profane. I assumed it was the L.H.O.O.Q, because folks often have a very strong reaction to it. Was this an incorrect line of reasoning? I should like to know how, so I do not repeat my error.

Yeah sorry, I misread your post. I meant the urinal, in order to catch the other artwork in case of an emergency.

Ah, the fountain, of course.
The next question is, well, what exactly do you find a problem with it? Why is it the problematic piece, as opposed to other readymades of his?

[Conservative Feminism]

Yeah sorry, I misread your post. I meant the urinal, in order to catch the other artwork in case of an emergency.

Ah, the fountain, of course.
The next question is, well, what exactly do you find a problem with it? Why is it the problematic piece, as opposed to other readymades of his?

I don't have a problem with it at all, I actually appreciate the wit, I have a problem with this work of art of a bottle of urine with a cross in it because it seems extremely try hard and in poor taste, and think it would be rather fitting and humorous if it were hung above the fountain at an exhibition and fell into it.

[Kubra]

Ah, the fountain, of course.
The next question is, well, what exactly do you find a problem with it? Why is it the problematic piece, as opposed to other readymades of his?

I don't have a problem with it at all, I actually appreciate the wit, I have a problem with this work of art of a bottle of urine with a cross in it because it seems extremely try hard and in poor taste, and think it would be rather fitting and humorous if it were hung above the fountain at an exhibition and fell into it.

Oh, pardon me, I suppose I misunderstood, then.
Then it follows" what do you find the problem with the piss christ?

[Ceolophysia]

Collective knowledge doesn't exist. There is only individual knowledge. You can choose not to interact with such types if you want to, but don't ruin their fun.

Reading what others have wrote on subjects and listening to what they say on subjects is how we come to new ideas on subjects, bub. Welcome to academia.

Emo teens aren't going to last long in academia though. Their fun doesn't affect such a place.

[Conservative Feminism]

I don't have a problem with it at all, I actually appreciate the wit, I have a problem with this work of art of a bottle of urine with a cross in it because it seems extremely try hard and in poor taste, and think it would be rather fitting and humorous if it were hung above the fountain at an exhibition and fell into it.

Oh, pardon me, I suppose I misunderstood, then.
Then it follows" what do you find the problem with the piss christ?

It seems to be more of a political statement and an attempt to create drama than an honest attempt explore the idea of what art is and society's relationship to it. It's extremely overstated as well.

[New Emeline]

the government wouldn't need to fund anything if we abolish the concept of money :^)

[The New California Republic]

the government wouldn't need to fund anything if we abolish the concept of money :^)

Or we could just abolish the concept of art.

/s.

[Kubra]

Reading what others have wrote on subjects and listening to what they say on subjects is how we come to new ideas on subjects, bub. Welcome to academia.

Emo teens aren't going to last long in academia though. Their fun doesn't affect such a place.

Sure it does: by not being there.

[Kubra]

Oh, pardon me, I suppose I misunderstood, then.
Then it follows" what do you find the problem with the piss christ?

It seems to be more of a political statement and an attempt to create drama than an honest attempt explore the idea of what art is and society's relationship to it. It's extremely overstated as well.

The artist stated explicitly that it's not a political statement or a religious criticism.

[Ceolophysia]

Emo teens aren't going to last long in academia though. Their fun doesn't affect such a place.

Sure it does: by not being there.

Not everyone needs to be there. There's other important things, like being an entrepreneur, an engineer, an artist.

[Kubra]

Sure it does: by not being there.

Not everyone needs to be there. There's other important things, like being an entrepreneur, an engineer, an artist.

The less there are, the less there are folks to read, be lectured, and subsequently less to write and lecture.
An engineer goes to academia. A fair amount of enterpreneur's go to "business school". Artists, you can guess.

[Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio]

I believe that arts and other crafts, such as carving and weaving should be taught in government funded schools. Art should be funded to an extent by the government. I would like for there to be in taxes an optional put x amount of my money to y cause/organization/unrecognized job.

Some people may wish to devout their lives to become a polymath, a monk, an artist, or a crafts-person, or inventor. Those things do not necessarily pay regularly or at all, yet most people would like for those who wish to devout their lives to those things to at least be able to not worry about food or shelter. Funding their work through optional donations included in taxes for some of those would fund them.

[Ceolophysia]

Not everyone needs to be there. There's other important things, like being an entrepreneur, an engineer, an artist.

The less there are, the less there are folks to read, be lectured, and subsequently less to write and lecture.
An engineer goes to academia. A fair amount of enterpreneur's go to "business school". Artists, you can guess.

Ah, I thought you were referring to those who stay there.

[Kubra]

The less there are, the less there are folks to read, be lectured, and subsequently less to write and lecture.
An engineer goes to academia. A fair amount of enterpreneur's go to "business school". Artists, you can guess.

Ah, I thought you were referring to those who stay there.

nah, staying is dumb. But going is great.