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Postby Katganistan » Thu May 03, 2018 9:38 pm

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Dogmeat wrote:For instance, Samuel L. Jackson was on a cheer team. Not joking.

Damn. That makes him even more awesome. I am picturing Nick Fury in a mini skirt, and it is glorious.


I am tired of these motherfuckin' misogynists dragging on motherfuckin' cheersquads!

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Postby New haven america » Thu May 03, 2018 9:40 pm

The Republic of Fore wrote:
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Why not? Should girls not learn about outdoor skills, civic values, and all the other cool shit I've been able to do in Scouts? Because that's not what they do in the Girl Scouts.

Also, the girls will not be in troops with the boys, people. Ain't no-one getting pregnant at summer camp.

Are the boy scouts the only organization that teaches those things?

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Postby Katganistan » Thu May 03, 2018 9:41 pm

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Right. No males in ballet, gymnastics, figure skating, no male acrobats.

This is edging away from hilarity into the surreal.

I bet most men couldn't take off a bra without taking off their shirt. *nod*


It is pretty funny the first time they see it done.

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Postby Lavan Tiri » Thu May 03, 2018 9:41 pm

The Republic of Fore wrote:
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Why not? Should girls not learn about outdoor skills, civic values, and all the other cool shit I've been able to do in Scouts? Because that's not what they do in the Girl Scouts.

Also, the girls will not be in troops with the boys, people. Ain't no-one getting pregnant at summer camp.

Because It's for boys. Are girls incapable of learning those things on their own? Are the boy scouts the only organization that teaches those things? "Buh I want to!" Is not a reason.


And how does allowing the girls to join and be in separate troops from the boys make it not "for boys"?


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Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:Because very few people actually remember that the kind of teenager who would join the Scouts is not the kind of teenager to sneak off to frolic in the woods with an affectionate companion.

IDK, like half of my troop was composed of swimmers and basketball and football players...


Soccer players and theatre kids. We've the gayest troop in the district.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Thu May 03, 2018 9:42 pm

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Olthar wrote:Damn. That makes him even more awesome. I am picturing Nick Fury in a mini skirt, and it is glorious.


I am tired of these motherfuckin' misogynists dragging on motherfuckin' cheersquads!

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Postby Dogmeat » Thu May 03, 2018 9:42 pm

The Republic of Fore wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:That's why they changed the name. Duh.

Doesn't change that they don't belong. Don't change the name and don't let them in. Duh.

And why not? If a girl thinks that the Girl Scouts are too bakey, and would rather see how the other side has it, what does it hurt anything?
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Postby Katganistan » Thu May 03, 2018 9:43 pm

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:Also, anyone else notice the... oddly large number of moderators here? I've seen three in the last page alone, not counting the one that was called in to enforce the rules.


Some of us were scouts.

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Postby Olthar » Thu May 03, 2018 9:43 pm

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New haven america wrote:IDK, like half of my troop was composed of swimmers and basketball and football players...


Soccer players and theatre kids. We've the gayest troop in the district.

Think of it this way, if you run into a bear, the survivors will be able to really play up the story.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Thu May 03, 2018 9:44 pm

The Republic of Fore wrote:
Lavan Tiri wrote:
Why not? Should girls not learn about outdoor skills, civic values, and all the other cool shit I've been able to do in Scouts? Because that's not what they do in the Girl Scouts.

Also, the girls will not be in troops with the boys, people. Ain't no-one getting pregnant at summer camp.

Because It's for boys. Are girls incapable of learning those things on their own? Are the boy scouts the only organization that teaches those things? "Buh I want to!" Is not a reason.

The BSA might as well be the only organization that does that, given that it's the only one I can think of. Besides, the ban on girls was arbitrary in the first place. Worthless traditions that only serve to block people for no particular reason should not be preserved.

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Postby Digital Planets » Thu May 03, 2018 9:44 pm

It should obviously be the Hydra Scouts of America if they were gonna change their name.

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Postby Katganistan » Thu May 03, 2018 9:45 pm

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Olthar wrote:Everything that's not squirting out babies used to be male dominated.

Well, when you put it like that...
I mean, you're technically incorrect, but the only things I can think of that would disagree with this are sewing and maybe cooking.

Mmmhmm.

Perhaps you should google world-famous chefs and see what comes up.

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Postby Olthar » Thu May 03, 2018 9:45 pm

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The Republic of Fore wrote:Doesn't change that they don't belong. Don't change the name and don't let them in. Duh.

And why not? If a girl thinks that the Girl Scouts are too bakey, and would rather see how the other side has it, what does it hurt anything?

Because you can't properly tie knots if you have boobs.
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Postby Dogmeat » Thu May 03, 2018 9:46 pm

Olthar wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:And why not? If a girl thinks that the Girl Scouts are too bakey, and would rather see how the other side has it, what does it hurt anything?

Because you can't properly tie knots if you have boobs.

Maybe their worried someone's period is going to attract a bear or something?
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Postby Lavan Tiri » Thu May 03, 2018 9:46 pm

Olthar wrote:
Lavan Tiri wrote:
Soccer players and theatre kids. We've the gayest troop in the district.

Think of it this way, if you run into a bear, the survivors will be able to really play up the story.


Or run away from it.
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The Republic of Fore wrote:Because It's for boys. Are girls incapable of learning those things on their own? Are the boy scouts the only organization that teaches those things? "Buh I want to!" Is not a reason.

The BSA might as well be the only organization that does that, given that it's the only one I can think of. Besides, the ban on girls was arbitrary in the first place. Worthless traditions that only serve to block people for no particular reason should not be preserved.


It's the only one I know of that does it on a national scale.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Thu May 03, 2018 9:47 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:Well, when you put it like that...
I mean, you're technically incorrect, but the only things I can think of that would disagree with this are sewing and maybe cooking.

Mmmhmm.

Perhaps you should google world-famous chefs and see what comes up.

This is why I said 'maybe'. Famous chefs were and are almost always male, but it's historically been somewhat hard to find a guy who could cook anything more complicated than a sandwich.

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Postby Katganistan » Thu May 03, 2018 9:47 pm

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Katganistan wrote:Well, except for the girls who turn into NSG posters. Unless it's a double transformation -- first to girls, then posters. :twisted:

Considering how many trans women there seem to be on this forum, you might be onto something there. :p


I'd hope we're inclusive enough to attract trans men as well.

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Postby Martian Alliance » Thu May 03, 2018 9:48 pm

The Boy Scouts is supposed to be structured like a military organization. Militaries all across the world now allow both men and women so why should the Boy Scouts remain behind? You can send women to war but they're not allowed to camp? I think they should be allowed but the troops should not be co-ed. Then the Boy Scouts can remain the same, and girls can be allowed to participate in their own patrols.
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Postby Dogmeat » Thu May 03, 2018 9:48 pm

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Mmmhmm.

Perhaps you should google world-famous chefs and see what comes up.

This is why I said 'maybe'. Famous chefs were and are almost always male, but it's historically been somewhat hard to find a guy who could cook anything more complicated than a sandwich.

It occurs to me that the most famous clothing designers are men too...
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Postby Katganistan » Thu May 03, 2018 9:49 pm

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Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:Because very few people actually remember that the kind of teenager who would join the Scouts is not the kind of teenager to sneak off to frolic in the woods with an affectionate companion.

I mean.... they could be that kind of teenager.
They'd just know how to frolic in the woods correctly.

They'd bring a compass so they won't get lost, and they'd Be Prepared.

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Postby Lavan Tiri » Thu May 03, 2018 9:49 pm

Martian Alliance wrote:The Boy Scouts is supposed to be structured like a military organization. Militaries all across the world now allow both men and women so why should the Boy Scouts remain behind? You can send women to war but they're not allowed to camp? I think they should be allowed but the troops should not be co-ed. Then the Boy Scouts can remain the same, and girls can be allowed to participate in their own patrols.


Good news, the troops won't be co-ed. Which makes 90% of arguments against this null.
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Postby Martian Alliance » Thu May 03, 2018 9:50 pm

Lavan Tiri wrote:
Martian Alliance wrote:The Boy Scouts is supposed to be structured like a military organization. Militaries all across the world now allow both men and women so why should the Boy Scouts remain behind? You can send women to war but they're not allowed to camp? I think they should be allowed but the troops should not be co-ed. Then the Boy Scouts can remain the same, and girls can be allowed to participate in their own patrols.


Good news, the troops won't be co-ed. Which makes 90% of arguments against this null.

Well then I think they're doing a good thing.
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Postby Olthar » Thu May 03, 2018 9:51 pm

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Olthar wrote:Because you can't properly tie knots if you have boobs.

Maybe their worried someone's period is going to attract a bear or something?

Pshaw! That's just a myth. You do have to watch out for sharks, though. They're attracted to blood, and you can find them all over the place in forests.
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Postby Lavan Tiri » Thu May 03, 2018 9:51 pm

Olthar wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:Maybe their worried someone's period is going to attract a bear or something?

Pshaw! That's just a myth. You do have to watch out for sharks, though. They're attracted to blood, and you can find them all over the place in forests.


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Postby Olthar » Thu May 03, 2018 9:53 pm

Lavan Tiri wrote:
Martian Alliance wrote:The Boy Scouts is supposed to be structured like a military organization. Militaries all across the world now allow both men and women so why should the Boy Scouts remain behind? You can send women to war but they're not allowed to camp? I think they should be allowed but the troops should not be co-ed. Then the Boy Scouts can remain the same, and girls can be allowed to participate in their own patrols.


Good news, the troops won't be co-ed. Which makes 90% of arguments against this null.

I think you misspelled "100."
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Postby Katganistan » Thu May 03, 2018 9:53 pm

Olthar wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:And why not? If a girl thinks that the Girl Scouts are too bakey, and would rather see how the other side has it, what does it hurt anything?

Because you can't properly tie knots if you have boobs.


Come now, the only boobs that have gotten in the way of me tying knots properly were the ones trying explain it to me.

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