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What kind of Monarchist are you?

Absolutist
49
15%
Theocratic/ Papal
12
4%
Semi-Constitutional
46
14%
Constitutional (Modern Britain)
55
16%
Constitutional (Pre-Orange Britain)
12
4%
Constitutional (Elective)
11
3%
Constitutional (Other)
13
4%
Not a Monarchist
139
41%
 
Total votes : 337

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:16 pm

Torrocca wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:NOPE


Yup. Just because some burnt churches ruffle your feathers doesn't change the truth behind it.

Oh, it's not just the Church-burning.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:17 pm

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Torrocca wrote:
Yup. Just because some burnt churches ruffle your feathers doesn't change the truth behind it.

Oh, it's not just the Church-burning.


It's the democracy, isn't it?
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Postby Puldania » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:17 pm

Frievolk wrote:
Puldania wrote:Homophobia and Protestantism are also due to Western Civilization, your point?
The first... not really

Most Certainly, if you research it enough.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:20 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:Oh, it's not just the Church-burning.


It's the democracy, isn't it?

I can't deny that I loathe universal democracy with the fury of ten-thousand suns.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:22 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
It's the democracy, isn't it?

I can't deny that I loathe universal democracy with the fury of ten-thousand suns.


Of course you do :^)
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:33 pm

Torrocca wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:I can't deny that I loathe universal democracy with the fury of ten-thousand suns.


Of course you do :^)

That's correct. I'm not a commie. I'm a conservative. And we will kill universal democracy by being let inside its governmental tent, like Judith beheaded Holophernes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mTEpicRFwM
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:34 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Of course you do :^)

That's correct. I'm not a commie. I'm a conservative. And we will kill universal democracy by being let inside its governmental tent, like Judith beheaded Holophernes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mTEpicRFwM


Time for me to rally my fellow Americans with that slanderous, anti-Democracy speak :^)
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:38 pm

Torrocca wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:That's correct. I'm not a commie. I'm a conservative. And we will kill universal democracy by being let inside its governmental tent, like Judith beheaded Holophernes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mTEpicRFwM


Time for me to rally my fellow Americans with that slanderous, anti-Democracy speak :^)

They don't care because you keep trying to make it harder for them to get jobs by outsourcing and importing immigrants. Your gimmedats can only seduce so many!
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:41 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Time for me to rally my fellow Americans with that slanderous, anti-Democracy speak :^)

They don't care because you keep trying to make it harder for them to get jobs by outsourcing and importing immigrants. Your gimmedats can only seduce so many!


w r o n g, liberals do that, not us anarchies.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:49 pm

Torrocca wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:They don't care because you keep trying to make it harder for them to get jobs by outsourcing and importing immigrants. Your gimmedats can only seduce so many!


w r o n g, liberals do that, not us anarchies.

Anarchies are open border guys.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:53 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
w r o n g, liberals do that, not us anarchies.

Anarchies are open border guys.


No, Anarchies are no border guys :^)
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:54 pm

Torrocca wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Anarchies are open border guys.


No, Anarchies are no border guys :^)

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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:55 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
No, Anarchies are no border guys :^)

No birders is open borders :^)


Can't have open borders if borders are nonexistent :^)
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Postby Demirestad » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:11 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Of course you do :^)

That's correct. I'm not a commie. I'm a conservative. And we will kill universal democracy by being let inside its governmental tent, like Judith beheaded Holophernes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mTEpicRFwM


At least until the next revolution

Joking aside though, that kind of undercover takeover wouldn't be possible. People want their rights, they will fight for them if they feel downtrodden enough, where it goes from there is dependent entirely on the driving force/leader behind it. Also, totalitarianism's life blood is fear of an outside force, so a one leader absolute state would eventually falter if it either belittles its citizens enough to cause a popular revolution or doesn't have an external force to be afraid of.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:48 pm

Puldania wrote:Do Monarchists really still exist? I thought they were like a defective strain that died off in the 20th century.

My whole thing with monarchs is I love them as figureheads
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Postby Ieskarios » Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:56 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Puldania wrote:Do Monarchists really still exist? I thought they were like a defective strain that died off in the 20th century.

My whole thing with monarchs is I love them as figureheads
I’m a Democrat through and through but the idea of having a central figure at the top who represents the nation, complete with all the trappings of monarchies and tradition, is cool to me. I’d never suppport a monarchy as a genuine form of government though

What monarchies do you like? The majority of them in the world are basically figureheads.
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Postby Second Empire of America » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:38 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Most serious monarchists only want monarchy where it existed traditionally.


I guess I'm not a serious monarchist then. I just want Queen Elizabeth II to be the constitutional monarch of the USA like she is with Canada. Thirty five of the fifty US states have never been part of the British Empire.
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Postby Second Empire of America » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:46 pm

Torrocca wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:They don't care because you keep trying to make it harder for them to get jobs by outsourcing and importing immigrants. Your gimmedats can only seduce so many!


w r o n g, liberals do that, not us anarchies.


I wish liberals would do that; most of them don't go far enough with open borders. Borders should just be lines denoting which government controls what territory, and consequently what laws apply to what places. They shouldn't be walls that keep people from moving where they want to.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:48 pm

Torrocca wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:No birders is open borders :^)


Can't have open borders if borders are nonexistent :^)

That's what open borders means :^)
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:49 pm

Second Empire of America wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
w r o n g, liberals do that, not us anarchies.


I wish liberals would do that; most of them don't go far enough with open borders. Borders should just be lines denoting which government controls what territory, and consequently what laws apply to what places. They shouldn't be walls that keep people from moving where they want to.

Why not? Property boundaries do
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:54 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Can't have open borders if borders are nonexistent :^)

That's what open borders means :^)


Demonstrably false, friendo.
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Postby Auze » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:01 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Puldania wrote:Still better than a done-to-death failure of an ideology.


You mean a functional form of government, that existed for thousands of years that built western civilization? And still exists as a functional government?

And experienced a collapse of government and civil wars regularly? And is now mostly found in repressive countries that are only propped up by a natural resource?
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:05 pm

Auze wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
You mean a functional form of government, that existed for thousands of years that built western civilization? And still exists as a functional government?

And experienced a collapse of government and civil wars regularly? And is now mostly found in repressive countries that are only propped up by a natural resource?


Or countries so tiny and insignificant on the global scale of politics that they have no influence or sway on worldly affairs.

Or it's so neutered that it doesn't even act as a government, just a traditional act within the country.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:25 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Second Empire of America wrote:
I wish liberals would do that; most of them don't go far enough with open borders. Borders should just be lines denoting which government controls what territory, and consequently what laws apply to what places. They shouldn't be walls that keep people from moving where they want to.

Why not? Property boundaries do

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Postby Iahselene » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:30 am

Also, property boundaries keep people from living places at least in the United States. That wouldn't make illeagal immigrants legal. It would make them squatters.

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