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Monarchist Discussion Thread II: The Crown will Rise Again!

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What kind of Monarchist are you?

Absolutist
48
14%
Theocratic/ Papal
12
4%
Semi-Constitutional
45
13%
Constitutional (Modern Britain)
55
16%
Constitutional (Pre-Orange Britain)
12
4%
Constitutional (Elective)
11
3%
Constitutional (Other)
13
4%
Not a Monarchist
139
41%
 
Total votes : 335

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Internationalist Bastard
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:43 pm

I must admit a deep love of monarchies in every aspect besides them actually running the government.
Like I’d actually be happy pledging utter fealty to a monarch and serving them loyally while I obsess over the bloodline
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Bienenhalde
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Founded: Mar 11, 2017
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Bienenhalde » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:01 pm

Anarcho-Fascist Japan wrote:Who would be the American monarch?
There is no one alive that would fit the job unless they descend from Lincoln or Washington


One idea would be to restore the United States to the British monarchy in a personal union, similar to the government of Canada. Alternately, after the revolution there was an unsuccessful plan to install a younger son of the King of Prussia as King of the USA.
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Internationalist Bastard
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Founded: Aug 09, 2015
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:08 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Anarcho-Fascist Japan wrote:Who would be the American monarch?
There is no one alive that would fit the job unless they descend from Lincoln or Washington


One idea would be to restore the United States to the British monarchy in a personal union, similar to the government of Canada. Alternately, after the revolution there was an unsuccessful plan to install a younger son of the King of Prussia as King of the USA.

Wait really? I’d love a source for that for alt history reasons
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Salus Maior
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Founded: Jun 16, 2014
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Salus Maior » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:09 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Anarcho-Fascist Japan wrote:Who would be the American monarch?
There is no one alive that would fit the job unless they descend from Lincoln or Washington


One idea would be to restore the United States to the British monarchy in a personal union, similar to the government of Canada. Alternately, after the revolution there was an unsuccessful plan to install a younger son of the King of Prussia as King of the USA.


There wasn't a plan, it was literally a suggestion that fell flat.

Internationalist Bastard wrote:Wait really? I’d love a source for that for alt history reasons


This is probably the closest you'd get to any vision of it: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/in ... r.1101469/
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Autarkheia
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Founded: Jun 22, 2018
Corporate Police State

Postby Autarkheia » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:37 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Autarkheia wrote:I'm confused how neo-Nazis could claim to be monarchists when Nazi Germany didn't have a monarchy, even a symbolic one. It would be easier to do what crypto-fascists always do and just claim to be a "nationalist", or even a "conservative".

Nazi Germany used many similar symbols to Imperial Germany, and protected seigneural rights.
Sure, but that was more for nationalistic reasons.
We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the right, a Fascist century. If the XIXth century was the century of the individual (liberalism implies individualism) we are free to believe that this is the "collective" century, and therefore the century of the State.

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Internationalist Bastard
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Founded: Aug 09, 2015
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:39 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
One idea would be to restore the United States to the British monarchy in a personal union, similar to the government of Canada. Alternately, after the revolution there was an unsuccessful plan to install a younger son of the King of Prussia as King of the USA.


There wasn't a plan, it was literally a suggestion that fell flat.

Internationalist Bastard wrote:Wait really? I’d love a source for that for alt history reasons


This is probably the closest you'd get to any vision of it: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/in ... r.1101469/

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Frievolk
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Posts: 3368
Founded: Jun 14, 2018
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Frievolk » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:42 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Autarkheia wrote:I'm confused how neo-Nazis could claim to be monarchists when Nazi Germany didn't have a monarchy, even a symbolic one. It would be easier to do what crypto-fascists always do and just claim to be a "nationalist", or even a "conservative".

Nazi Germany used many similar symbols to Imperial Germany, and protected seigneural rights.

A lot of those symbols were also, officially or unofficially, used by the Weimar Republic too tho. One needs to realize that even ignoring the sheer unbelievable nuttery that was the National Socialist State of Germany, Germans were unbelievably nationalist during the Reich (1871-1946). German Ultranationalists using symbols embodying German Nationalism is not quite that surprising.
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Bienenhalde
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Bienenhalde » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:22 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:One idea would be to restore the United States to the British monarchy in a personal union, similar to the government of Canada. Alternately, after the revolution there was an unsuccessful plan to install a younger son of the King of Prussia as King of the USA.

Wait really? I’d love a source for that for alt history reasons


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_scheme
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Cursica
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Founded: Nov 28, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Cursica » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:26 am

I am an Enlighten Absolutists. So It would've been nice if there was that distinction since I think a lot of people tend to assume an Enlighten Absolutists who adopted and embraced Enlighten/progressive values are similar to the average absolute ruler which I'd like to remind are clearly not the same. I believe that, not just politically and ideologically am I oriented towards such a belief but my religion as well forever bounds me towards one. I believe that I always was one, never really agreed to democracy whatsoever.
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Hrythingia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Hrythingia » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:34 am

Cursica wrote:I am an Enlighten Absolutists. So It would've been nice if there was that distinction. I believe that, not just politically and ideologically am I oriented towards such belief but my religion as well. I believe that I always was one, never really agreed to democracy whatsoever.

Nice grammar. Not really sure what you are trying to say here....
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Cursica
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Ex-Nation

Postby Cursica » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:59 pm

Hrythingia wrote:
Cursica wrote:I am an Enlighten Absolutists. So It would've been nice if there was that distinction. I believe that, not just politically and ideologically am I oriented towards such belief but my religion as well. I believe that I always was one, never really agreed to democracy whatsoever.

Nice grammar. Not really sure what you are trying to say here....



Why do you compliment my grammer?. I acknowledge that i may not say things the right way as I'd like to. I'm not great with English it seems and I saw this thread on the left when you log into your nationstate thing and you see those forums and what not. I think you know what I am talking about, if not, its ok, I can saw a picture of what I mean. If you were trying to insult me simply for responding to a thread I saw by logging into my account then you are awful person to insult someone for sharing there thoughts. But you won't have to worry about someone with "Nice grammar" since i only saw this by chance.

Have a good day friend.

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