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Postby Liriena » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:07 pm

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LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:What about the ones who say "cutie?" You saying no middle schooler was looking for a committed relationship?

Middle schoolers aren't the people I usually see catcalling, though

Yeah.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:07 pm

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New Emeline wrote:I don't think men who shout "nice tits" at you are looking for a committed relationship.

What about the ones who say "cutie?" You saying no middle schooler was looking for a committed relationship?

It's spelled 'qt' as in '>tfw no qt artsy gf' (as an example).
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Postby Torrocca » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:08 pm

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LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:What about the ones who say "cutie?" You saying no middle schooler was looking for a committed relationship?

Middle schoolers aren't the people I usually see catcalling, though


Eme, please, it's 2018. The socially correct term for middle-schoolers is kittycalling.
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Postby New Emeline » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:09 pm

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New Emeline wrote:Middle schoolers aren't the people I usually see catcalling, though


Eme, please, it's 2018. The socially correct term for middle-schoolers is kittycalling.

:p

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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:10 pm

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LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:What about the ones who say "cutie?" You saying no middle schooler was looking for a committed relationship?

Middle schoolers aren't the people I usually see catcalling, though

That's because school is one of the few contexts in which it's considered appropriate to flirt with a stranger.

And honestly, if not for the risks of dropping out to pay child support, they'd have been right to do things that way, as opposed to the adult world where workplace dating raises the possibility that someone is using you for a raise, and online dating is just considered pathetic.
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Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.

How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.

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Postby Liriena » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:11 pm

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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:12 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:What about the ones who say "cutie?" You saying no middle schooler was looking for a committed relationship?

It's spelled 'qt' as in '>tfw no qt artsy gf' (as an example).


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Postby Liriena » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:12 pm

Torrocca wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Middle schoolers aren't the people I usually see catcalling, though


Eme, please, it's 2018. The socially correct term for middle-schoolers is kittycalling.

"Kittycalling"

D'awww :3
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Postby Valgora » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:13 pm


"N*gga stfu"

Pretty much the only appropriate comment for something like that.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:14 pm



No, because he's still misrepresenting the MRM and telling lies about them.

The idea is that feminism is a lie, women are really on top, the pay gap is a myth and men are being taken for a ride by women who drain their bank accounts and are only attracted to jerks.

Their response to this “realisation” is usually to hit the gym, get jacked, take up the paleo diet, become a “pick-up artist”, and take advantage of women as much as possible.


He can get fucked. It's another instance of journalists outright telling lies to the public about a civil rights movement.
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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:14 pm


I do! I do!

Really, though, there's something respectable in the honesty of not conflating the two, even when it comes from an opponent of both.
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2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.

How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.

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MRM is the movement, MRA is the people.
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Mens rights activist, the mens rights movement.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:15 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
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Can someone explain the difference between MRA and MRM?


Mens rights activist, the mens rights movement.

Ah so basically the difference between a feminist and feminism. Thanks!
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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:17 pm

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No, because he's still misrepresenting the MRM and telling lies about them.

The idea is that feminism is a lie, women are really on top, the pay gap is a myth and men are being taken for a ride by women who drain their bank accounts and are only attracted to jerks.

Their response to this “realisation” is usually to hit the gym, get jacked, take up the paleo diet, become a “pick-up artist”, and take advantage of women as much as possible.


He can get fucked. It's another instance of journalists outright telling lies to the public about a civil rights movement.

From someone who's willing to point out distinctions in things the rest of the media otherwise conflates?

I'm betting it was an honest mistake.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.

How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.

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Postby Liriena » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:20 pm

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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:22 pm

Liriena wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Eme, please, it's 2018. The socially correct term for middle-schoolers is kittycalling.

"Kittycalling"

D'awww :3

Isn't it, though?

Middle school flirting, even when it didn't go any further, was a deluge of adorable sentimentality before adulthood cynicism set in, unfettered by legalistic concerns about what kind of person people would make you out to be for "putting her on the spot" and all that.

If only child support law carved out exceptions for guys whose girlfriends said they'd abort, they could combine their cuteness with that of their flirting without others having to object to them dating for fear of where that'd lead.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.

How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:22 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
No, because he's still misrepresenting the MRM and telling lies about them.



He can get fucked. It's another instance of journalists outright telling lies to the public about a civil rights movement.

From someone who's willing to point out distinctions in things the rest of the media otherwise conflates?

I'm betting it was an honest mistake.


He represented himself as an authority on the issue and as presenting a correction. There can be no honest mistake about this.
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Postby New Emeline » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:22 pm

Pick up artists are still concerning to me, but a little bit less so. Seems like there's a better chance of getting them out of their beliefs.

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Postby Liriena » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:25 pm

New Emeline wrote:Pick up artists are still concerning to me, but a little bit less so. Seems like there's a better chance of getting them out of their beliefs.

PUA is better than incels in that they aren't almost a death cult. They're still bad in that their "artists" teach men to be emotionally (and sometimes sexually) abusive, and end up fomenting pretty much the same "sex as a sign of male status rather than something you do for mutual fun" attitude that incels do.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:26 pm

Liriena wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Pick up artists are still concerning to me, but a little bit less so. Seems like there's a better chance of getting them out of their beliefs.

PUA is better than incels in that they aren't almost a death cult. They're still bad in that their "artists" teach men to be emotionally (and sometimes sexually) abusive, and end up fomenting pretty much the same "sex as a sign of male status rather than something you do for mutual fun" attitude that incels do.

I'm not worried about a PUA committing mass murder, but I am worried about them hurting people (including their own followers) in other ways.
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I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
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Postby New Emeline » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:26 pm

Liriena wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Pick up artists are still concerning to me, but a little bit less so. Seems like there's a better chance of getting them out of their beliefs.

PUA is better than incels in that they aren't almost a death cult. They're still bad in that their "artists" teach men to be emotionally (and sometimes sexually) abusive, and end up fomenting pretty much the same "sex as a sign of male status rather than something you do for mutual fun" attitude that incels do.

Yeah, they still push the same toxic ideals, just to a different conclusion. They aren't hopeless is what I mean, and I feel like there's a better chance of connecting to them.

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