Mass killer becomes incel hero

[Underdark Cave]

I suppose it sits on whether the "incel revolution" is an actual ideological reason.
Which it isn't.

Define actual ideological reason

One created by a sane, rational mind.

[Dogmeat]

What she said is literally part of the treatment for depression and anxiety.

Maybe treatment for people who are faux-depressed, sure.

No offense, by the way.

Offense taken. Going out and doing things is the only thing that keeps me from spiraling down into a immobile stupor. You don't know what you're talking about.

[New Emeline]

Define actual ideological reason

One created by a sane, rational mind.

So that rules out most terrorism then

[United Muscovite Nations]

Terrorism has an actual definition - for an attack to be a terrorist attack, there needs to be political/ideological/religious reasons for the attack.

However, I'm not going to argue against the idea that terrorism is probably overused.

But if there is a political/ideological/religious reason for this guy's attack, then it's a terrorist attack.

I suppose it sits on whether the "incel revolution" or "killing girls because i'm a virgin" are actual ideological reasons
Which they aren't. They're warped thoughts of an insane mind.

It's called the beta uprising lmao

[Dogmeat]

Define actual ideological reason

One created by a sane, rational mind.

Like those of Al-Qaeda?

[Underdark Cave]

One created by a sane, rational mind.

So that rules out most terrorism then

Most terrorist groups simply take ideals from others, take them to an extreme and kill in their name.

[Katganistan]

So?
Make time to talk to people. Go to the club, or the bar, or the library. Take painting or cooking or martial arts classes.

You'll never meet anyone if you don't, you know, attempt to meet anyone.

I hate doing all of those things. Clubs and bars are loud and the people there are awful. There's not many places to meet people if you only have niche interests. Libraries also aren't places to socialize.

There are museums. Landmarks. Parks. As for niche interests, you can find groups. My father was interested in WWII German aircraft and plastic models -- and as specialized as that population might be, he was able to find others who shared that interest.

I won't suggest it's easy, but if you do look to do something you enjoy, you'll likely find others who share that interest.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I hate doing all of those things. Clubs and bars are loud and the people there are awful. There's not many places to meet people if you only have niche interests. Libraries also aren't places to socialize.

There are museums. Landmarks. Parks. As for niche interests, you can find groups. My father was interested in WWII German aircraft and plastic models -- and as specialized as that population might be, he was able to find others who shared that interest.

I won't suggest it's easy, but if you do look to do something you enjoy, you'll likely find others who share that interest.

Not where I live. I live in a very rural area with no major metro areas nearby to find things like that. That's the way a lot of the socially isolated live. There's not much around for people in rural areas.

[Underdark Cave]

I suppose it sits on whether the "incel revolution" or "killing girls because i'm a virgin" are actual ideological reasons
Which they aren't. They're warped thoughts of an insane mind.

It's called the beta uprising lmao

Yeah, the name was escaping me.
Still, not an actual thing. A meme created by 4chan and taken to the extreme by nutcases.

[New Emeline]

So that rules out most terrorism then

Most terrorist groups simply take ideals from others, take them to an extreme and kill in their name.

Er, that's not sane and rational

[Dogmeat]

There are museums. Landmarks. Parks. As for niche interests, you can find groups. My father was interested in WWII German aircraft and plastic models -- and as specialized as that population might be, he was able to find others who shared that interest.

I won't suggest it's easy, but if you do look to do something you enjoy, you'll likely find others who share that interest.

Not where I live. I live in a very rural area with no major metro areas nearby to find things like that. That's the way a lot of the socially isolated live. There's not much around for people in rural areas.

In that case I sincerely advise adopting a dog. Really.

[Fartsniffage]

What are your interests?

Soviet history and religious esotericism, mainly.

Then the trick is to find a place where there are people that somehow involves those things and make yourself go even if it's hard.

You're in the US, finding religious groups shouldn't be that difficult.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Not where I live. I live in a very rural area with no major metro areas nearby to find things like that. That's the way a lot of the socially isolated live. There's not much around for people in rural areas.

In that case I sincerely advise adopting a dog. Really.

I have a dog. It helps, but it doesn't fill the position that people have, and it feels horrible if they die.

Soviet history and religious esotericism, mainly.

Then the trick is to find a place where there are people that somehow involves those things and make yourself go even if it's hard.

You're in the US, finding religious groups shouldn't be that difficult.

It can be difficult depending on your tastes. I have a couple friends from Church that I can talk about esoteric stuff with, but there aren't a whole lot of Orthodox Churches here in Tennessee, and the one nearby doesn't have all that many people.

[Fartsniffage]

It can be difficult depending on your tastes. I have a couple friends from Church that I can talk about esoteric stuff with, but there aren't a whole lot of Orthodox Churches here in Tennessee, and the one nearby doesn't have all that many people.

You're throwing up objections. And that's normal.

Not many people is better than no people and it's your church so I assume you feel at least somewhat comfortable there. Talk to the people there outside of your friends. You already have something in common.

[United Muscovite Nations]

It can be difficult depending on your tastes. I have a couple friends from Church that I can talk about esoteric stuff with, but there aren't a whole lot of Orthodox Churches here in Tennessee, and the one nearby doesn't have all that many people.

You're throwing up objections. And that's normal.

Not many people is better than no people and it's your church so I assume you feel at least somewhat comfortable there. Talk to the people there outside of your friends. You already have something in common.

I do, but it still doesn't fill the void of not having a romantic partner.

[New Emeline]

You're throwing up objections. And that's normal.

Not many people is better than no people and it's your church so I assume you feel at least somewhat comfortable there. Talk to the people there outside of your friends. You already have something in common.

I do, but it still doesn't fill the void of not having a romantic partner.

I can understand that.

[Underdark Cave]

Most terrorist groups simply take ideals from others, take them to an extreme and kill in their name.

Er, that's not sane and rational

It could be argued that most people that kill in the name of religions aren't sane people, so no, most terrorist groups of today aren't actually terrorists, just insane groups of people/sane people that use the ideological reason as an excuse.
One example of actual terrorists would be those that invade and kill to establish their own weak puppet states to do as they're told, for instance.

[New Emeline]

Er, that's not sane and rational

It could be argued that most people that kill in the name of religions aren't sane people, so no, most terrorist groups of today aren't actually terrorists, just insane groups of people/sane people that use the ideological reason as an excuse.
One example of actual terrorists would be those that invade and kill to establish their own weak puppet states to do as they're told, for instance.

You have a weirdly narrow definition of terrorism

[Underdark Cave]

It could be argued that most people that kill in the name of religions aren't sane people, so no, most terrorist groups of today aren't actually terrorists, just insane groups of people/sane people that use the ideological reason as an excuse.
One example of actual terrorists would be those that invade and kill to establish their own weak puppet states to do as they're told, for instance.

You have a weirdly narrow definition of terrorism

I don't, I just prefer the definition of terrorism that makes it a strictly political thing.

Anyone that kills for God is just insane.

[Katganistan]

Not where I live. I live in a very rural area with no major metro areas nearby to find things like that. That's the way a lot of the socially isolated live. There's not much around for people in rural areas.

In that case I sincerely advise adopting a dog. Really.

*nod*

[Dogmeat]

You have a weirdly narrow definition of terrorism

I don't, I just prefer the definition of terrorism that makes it a strictly political thing.

Anyone that kills for God is just insane.

At this point you may as well just concede that you're not using a definition of terrorism that relates to anyone else's, or to the vast plethora of "terrorism" in the world today, and are therefore wasting your own time, and everyone else's, on pedantry.

[New Emeline]

I don't, I just prefer the definition of terrorism that makes it a strictly political thing.

Anyone that kills for God is just insane.

At this point you may as well just concede that you're not using a definition of terrorism that relates to anyone else's, or to the vast plethora of "terrorism" in the world today, and are therefore wasting your own time, and everyone else's, on pedantry.

Good ol pedantics

[Fartsniffage]

You have a weirdly narrow definition of terrorism

I don't, I just prefer the definition of terrorism that makes it a strictly political thing.

Anyone that kills for God is just insane.

If you really thinnk that religion and politics aren't basically one and the same then I have a bridge to sell you.

[New Emeline]

I don't, I just prefer the definition of terrorism that makes it a strictly political thing.

Anyone that kills for God is just insane.

If you really thinnk that religion and politics aren't basically one and the same then I have a bridge to sell you.

but is it a holy bridge

[Fartsniffage]

If you really thinnk that religion and politics aren't basically one and the same then I have a bridge to sell you.

but is it a holy bridge

No, I only sell the best bridges, no holes guaranteed.