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Postby Auzkhia » Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:50 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:What books do you think should be on a "gearhead's bookshelf"?

Some of my nominations:

- Bob Lutz - Car Guys vs Bean Counters,

- Jeremy Clarkson - various car review books,

- as for the non-strictly-car book - John Steinbeck's Grapes Of Wrath.

Haynes Manuals.
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Postby Elwher » Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:30 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:What books do you think should be on a "gearhead's bookshelf"?

Some of my nominations:

- Bob Lutz - Car Guys vs Bean Counters,

- Jeremy Clarkson - various car review books,

- as for the non-strictly-car book - John Steinbeck's Grapes Of Wrath.


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Postby Dus Osts » Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:58 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:What books do you think should be on a "gearhead's bookshelf"?

Some of my nominations:

- Bob Lutz - Car Guys vs Bean Counters,

- Jeremy Clarkson - various car review books,

- as for the non-strictly-car book - John Steinbeck's Grapes Of Wrath.


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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:21 pm

Auzkhia wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:What books do you think should be on a "gearhead's bookshelf"?

Some of my nominations:

- Bob Lutz - Car Guys vs Bean Counters,

- Jeremy Clarkson - various car review books,

- as for the non-strictly-car book - John Steinbeck's Grapes Of Wrath.

Haynes Manuals.

The Corvette Black Book.

Back issues of Hemmings.

Anything published by Motorbooks.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:41 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:What books do you think should be on a "gearhead's bookshelf"?

Some of my nominations:

- Bob Lutz - Car Guys vs Bean Counters,

- Jeremy Clarkson - various car review books,

- as for the non-strictly-car book - John Steinbeck's Grapes Of Wrath.

The Racing Driver: The Theory and Practice of Fast Driving by Denis Jenkinson
The Art and Technique of Driving by Pat Moss
How to Make Your Car Handle Fred Puhn
Go Like Hell: Ford, Ferrari, and the Battle For Speed and Glory at Le Mans by AJ Biame
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Postby Mutualist Chaos » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:47 pm

I found How to Drive ("Chapter 1: How Not to Drive" :lol: ) by Ben Collins a.k.a. The Stig to be somewhat enlightening for a relative n00b.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:00 pm

Mutualist Chaos wrote:I found How to Drive ("Chapter 1: How Not to Drive" :lol: ) by Ben Collins a.k.a. The Stig to be somewhat enlightening for a relative n00b.

Was he the one who got catapulted off the aircraft carrier, or the one who got shot - in the back! - because that's how it's done?
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Postby Great Britainnn » Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:51 pm

Dus Osts wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:What books do you think should be on a "gearhead's bookshelf"?

Some of my nominations:

- Bob Lutz - Car Guys vs Bean Counters,

- Jeremy Clarkson - various car review books,

- as for the non-strictly-car book - John Steinbeck's Grapes Of Wrath.


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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:24 pm

Adrian Newey apparently wrote a book called "How to Build a Car"...which...Adrian Newey. Kind of want to read that.
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Postby Jedi Council » Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:37 pm

Just looking for opinions, both my parents own Hyundai's. Thoughts on them in general?

I have driven some of the newer models, mainly thr Sonata, and I find it quite nice, an improvement on their early 2000s models which I heard were utter garbage.
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Postby Auzkhia » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:30 pm

Jedi Council wrote:Just looking for opinions, both my parents own Hyundai's. Thoughts on them in general?

I have driven some of the newer models, mainly thr Sonata, and I find it quite nice, an improvement on their early 2000s models which I heard were utter garbage.

Cheap car makers who recently got on par with Toyota and Lexus. The early 2010s Sonata looked nice, but they ruined the design. The Kia Stinger is interesting though, if it matters.
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Postby Dus Osts » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:13 pm

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:02 pm

Car show down the block from my house today. I'd share my instagram but, you know...reasons. Lot of cool cars. Some from Fast & Furious because I lives in 'ollywoooooood...well, Burbank, which is where everything is actually made, nothing is actually in Hollywood. Tons of Beetles, a Pinto dressed up as a disco ball. Fiat Topolino drag car. The usual. A Pantera. Highlight was a batwinged Boattail Bentley. Chick was hitting on my neighbor and he didn't notice.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:40 am

I terms of junkyard finds, I just saw an NB MX-5 and a Phaeton at a car dismamtler.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:41 am

I forget, are i20s still crap?
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:42 am

Vassenor wrote:I forget, are i20s still crap?

There are much better cars - Swift, Yaris, Mini (R50), VAG subcompacts (minus Fox) or Twingo.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:47 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:I forget, are i20s still crap?

There are much better cars - Swift, Yaris, Mini (R50), VAG subcompacts (minus Fox) or Twingo.


Well right now I'm going through here with a £10K budget.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:50 am

Vassenor wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:There are much better cars - Swift, Yaris, Mini (R50), VAG subcompacts (minus Fox) or Twingo.


Well right now I'm going through here with a £10K budget.

Preferred insurance groups, MPG, needs?
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:53 am

Petrolheadia wrote:

Preferred insurance groups, MPG, needs?


Ideally low insurance group - I'm a new driver with 0 years no claims.

I've established to myself that an Up!-sized car will handle most of my haulage needs but slightly bigger bootspace wouldn't go amiss.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:34 am

Vassenor wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Preferred insurance groups, MPG, needs?


Ideally low insurance group - I'm a new driver with 0 years no claims.

I've established to myself that an Up!-sized car will handle most of my haulage needs but slightly bigger bootspace wouldn't go amiss.

Low-powered VW Polo/Toyota Yaris/Kia Rio models.
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Postby NeoOasis » Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:10 pm

Finally returned from a trip to Tokyo. Found myself a lovely hotel in Ginza, and man was I in for a treat.

Dozens of Masteratis, various Ferraris both front engine and mid, Lamborghinis both Aventador to Gallardo, a couple of Corvettes, more than a few new Mercedes Maybachs, G-classes galore, and one Hyundai.

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Postby Auzkhia » Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:22 pm

I got a new toy car, this one is a 2017 blue Honda Civic Hatchback, I get a kick out of that, it's some regular car in toy form when most are sports cars or race cars.
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Postby Elwher » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:05 am

Auzkhia wrote:I got a new toy car, this one is a 2017 blue Honda Civic Hatchback, I get a kick out of that, it's some regular car in toy form when most are sports cars or race cars.


I recently picked up a red and white 1965 VW Bus myself, another example of non sports car toys.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:35 pm

Elwher wrote:
Auzkhia wrote:I got a new toy car, this one is a 2017 blue Honda Civic Hatchback, I get a kick out of that, it's some regular car in toy form when most are sports cars or race cars.


I recently picked up a red and white 1965 VW Bus myself, another example of non sports car toys.

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