The General Car Thread - The Facelift.

[Cappuccina]

That convo was.... interesting to read.

I was in it and I didn't even want to read it. Like the airplane parked on the off ramp, just shake your head and drive on.

Bullitt's Mustang just sold for $3.7 million dollars.
I got out bid by $3.7 million.

This a gorgeous 'Stang right there..... shame I've still never watched the movie it's in.

[Cannot think of a name]

I was in it and I didn't even want to read it. Like the airplane parked on the off ramp, just shake your head and drive on.

Bullitt's Mustang just sold for $3.7 million dollars.
I got out bid by $3.7 million.

This a gorgeous 'Stang right there..... shame I've still never watched the movie it's in.

Here's the only part anyone gives a shit about
I joke that I'm such a McQueen fan I actually remember the plot to Bullitt.

This includes the preamble. The high revving action begins around 3:15.

For funzies as someone who has watched that chase a lot here are some games you can play:
Count the number of times they pass that green Beetle or white Firebird.

Count the number of hubcaps that fall off the Charger.

If you're familiar with San Francisco, count the warp tubes they go through to jump through town.

[Cappuccina]

This a gorgeous 'Stang right there..... shame I've still never watched the movie it's in.

Here's the only part anyone gives a shit about
I joke that I'm such a McQueen fan I actually remember the plot to Bullitt.

This includes the preamble. The high revving action begins around 3:15.

For funzies as someone who has watched that chase a lot here are some games you can play:
Count the number of times they pass that green Beetle or white Firebird.

Count the number of hubcaps that fall off the Charger.

If you're familiar with San Francisco, count the warp tubes they go through to jump through town.

LOL!

I didn't notice that they passed the Bug and Firebird a lot, but thought I was just seeing things. I have to rewatch it now lol.

[Elwher]

This a gorgeous 'Stang right there..... shame I've still never watched the movie it's in.

Here's the only part anyone gives a shit about
I joke that I'm such a McQueen fan I actually remember the plot to Bullitt.

This includes the preamble. The high revving action begins around 3:15.

For funzies as someone who has watched that chase a lot here are some games you can play:
Count the number of times they pass that green Beetle or white Firebird.

Count the number of hubcaps that fall off the Charger.

If you're familiar with San Francisco, count the warp tubes they go through to jump through town.

Taking it one step further, count how many movies of the era have that same green bug in the background of chase/street scenes.

[Elwher]

https://www.thedrive.com/news/31807/heres-the-apology-subaru-sent-to-american-dealers-over-the-subaru-f-u-c-k-s-debacle?fbclid=IwAR1wfkcbDMOq_9kfYFqAgIOcqF73LeWBIrtrEKpdS1NYdrxmjtFx4w-mdMs

There is nothing I can add to this, it says it all.

[Petrolheadia]

https://www.thedrive.com/news/31807/heres-the-apology-subaru-sent-to-american-dealers-over-the-subaru-f-u-c-k-s-debacle?fbclid=IwAR1wfkcbDMOq_9kfYFqAgIOcqF73LeWBIrtrEKpdS1NYdrxmjtFx4w-mdMs

There is nothing I can add to this, it says it all.

And, in a typical case of the Streisand effect, the story continues to spread over the Internet.

[Asle Leopolka]

https://www.thedrive.com/news/31807/heres-the-apology-subaru-sent-to-american-dealers-over-the-subaru-f-u-c-k-s-debacle?fbclid=IwAR1wfkcbDMOq_9kfYFqAgIOcqF73LeWBIrtrEKpdS1NYdrxmjtFx4w-mdMs

There is nothing I can add to this, it says it all.

And, in a typical case of the Streisand effect, the story continues to spread over the Internet.

Hell, I'd buy a Subaru FUCK Edition in a heartbeat. They should have just laughed it off and called it a day rather than Streisanding the hell out of it.

[Cannot think of a name]

And, in a typical case of the Streisand effect, the story continues to spread over the Internet.

Hell, I'd buy a Subaru FUCK Edition in a heartbeat. They should have just laughed it off and called it a day rather than Streisanding the hell out of it.

They didn't, really. They sent a letter to dealers apologizing and that got leaked.

[Red Roja]

Tesla cars are over-hyped in my book.

I have two vehicles that I use for two different purposes. I have a 2017 Ford Escape that I use as my personal vehicle and I have a 2001 Ford F-350 Super Duty that I use as my work vehicle.

[Auzkhia]

Tesla cars are over-hyped in my book.

I have two vehicles that I use for two different purposes. I have a 2017 Ford Escape that I use as my personal vehicle and I have a 2001 Ford F-350 Super Duty that I use as my work vehicle.

Tesla is basically a tech company that happens to make cars, maybe more will follow. The original Tesla roadster was a Lotus Elise with a bunch of batteries.

I use my car both as a personal and work vehicle, that's the gig economy for you. A lot of riders like my 2005 Mercury Grand Marquis.

[Cannot think of a name]

Tesla cars are over-hyped in my book.

I have two vehicles that I use for two different purposes. I have a 2017 Ford Escape that I use as my personal vehicle and I have a 2001 Ford F-350 Super Duty that I use as my work vehicle.

Tesla is basically a tech company that happens to make cars, maybe more will follow. The original Tesla roadster was a Lotus Elise with a bunch of batteries.

Like Rivian. Or Cruise. Or Fisker (the new Fisker, not the old Fisker). Or Sony. Or Lightning. Or Sono Motors. Or Lordstown. Or Dyson (well, almost) (also, yeah, that Dyson). Honestly the time it would take to list all the electric car start ups ten more would release prototypes while ten others would quietly fade away. Tesla so far is the only one to actually get their car all the way to market and sell enough to have a second model.

As established manufacturers take the field, with VW aiming for 1 million electrics by 2023, vehicles like the Mach E, it will be harder for start up electric car companies unless they're only kind of start ups, like Rivian and Lordstown that are supported by Ford and Chevy or Cruise that's a co-op between GM and Honda. Or Sony that's not a start up by any stretch of the imagination but it's still not clear why they thought a concept car was a cool idea.

Currently electrics make up 2% of the market, but adding an electric is a good way to bring up the average CO2 and fuel consumption averages so more and more manufacturers are adding at least one so they can sell SUVs and the like without penalties. The next couple of years will tell the tale. There will be a full set of options for electric cars, if they sell that's it. That's the future. If not, roll again.

I use my car both as a personal and work vehicle, that's the gig economy for you. A lot of riders like my 2005 Mercury Grand Marquis.

You ride share in a Grand Marquis? How do you even break even with fuel costs?

[Cannot think of a name]

Thanks to four motors, the Rivian can literally turn on a dime:

[The Two Jerseys]

Thanks to four motors, the Rivian can literally turn on a dime:
(Image)

One has to wonder if that's good for the tires...

[Cannot think of a name]

Thanks to four motors, the Rivian can literally turn on a dime:
(Image)

One has to wonder if that's good for the tires...

It is not.

So the Rivian has a sensors that detect the 'softness' of the ground underneath it and only enable 'tank turn mode' in sufficiently slippery conditions.

Which someone has to disable at some point to create a smokey filled Sideshow win that ends on rims.

[Novus America]

Apparently Ford is looking at using Rivian to help it build its SUVs. I would think it more likely Ford buys them out over them becoming independently successful. But that would be okay.

[Cannot think of a name]

Apparently Ford is looking at using Rivian to help it build its SUVs. I would think it more likely Ford buys them out over them becoming independently successful. But that would be okay.

GM is doing the same thing with Lordstown. It's not an uncommon strategy, apparently rather than develop in house they're just investing in the company closest to what they're trying to do and if it works, absorb them and if it doesn't, eh.

[Novus America]

Apparently Ford is looking at using Rivian to help it build its SUVs. I would think it more likely Ford buys them out over them becoming independently successful. But that would be okay.

GM is doing the same thing with Lordstown. It's not an uncommon strategy, apparently rather than develop in house they're just investing in the company closest to what they're trying to do and if it works, absorb them and if it doesn't, eh.

Yes, much lower risk. If it does not work the start up can just go bankrupt and be replaced, and if it succeeds that can buy it out. Not a bad business strategy.

[Auzkhia]

Tesla is basically a tech company that happens to make cars, maybe more will follow. The original Tesla roadster was a Lotus Elise with a bunch of batteries.

Like Rivian. Or Cruise. Or Fisker (the new Fisker, not the old Fisker). Or Sony. Or Lightning. Or Sono Motors. Or Lordstown. Or Dyson (well, almost) (also, yeah, that Dyson). Honestly the time it would take to list all the electric car start ups ten more would release prototypes while ten others would quietly fade away. Tesla so far is the only one to actually get their car all the way to market and sell enough to have a second model.

As established manufacturers take the field, with VW aiming for 1 million electrics by 2023, vehicles like the Mach E, it will be harder for start up electric car companies unless they're only kind of start ups, like Rivian and Lordstown that are supported by Ford and Chevy or Cruise that's a co-op between GM and Honda. Or Sony that's not a start up by any stretch of the imagination but it's still not clear why they thought a concept car was a cool idea.

Currently electrics make up 2% of the market, but adding an electric is a good way to bring up the average CO2 and fuel consumption averages so more and more manufacturers are adding at least one so they can sell SUVs and the like without penalties. The next couple of years will tell the tale. There will be a full set of options for electric cars, if they sell that's it. That's the future. If not, roll again.

I use my car both as a personal and work vehicle, that's the gig economy for you. A lot of riders like my 2005 Mercury Grand Marquis.

You ride share in a Grand Marquis? How do you even break even with fuel costs?

I live in the suburbs so I get a lot of highways, and honestly, this is just a part-time gig, along with my freelance writing.

However, my employment history isn't the topic of this thread.

[Cannot think of a name]

It's Porsche Porsche BMW and Porsche Acura BMW in GTLM and GTD at the 24 hours of Daytona. The Corvette is in 4th and last. Cadillac leads Daytona Prototypes and honestly I never know whats going on in LMP2.

Also Track Pass is surreal.

EDIT: A wheel got stuck on a BMW in the pits, watching the tire guy crank away impotently on the wheel was painful.

[Red Roja]

Tesla cars are over-hyped in my book.

I have two vehicles that I use for two different purposes. I have a 2017 Ford Escape that I use as my personal vehicle and I have a 2001 Ford F-350 Super Duty that I use as my work vehicle.

Tesla is basically a tech company that happens to make cars, maybe more will follow. The original Tesla roadster was a Lotus Elise with a bunch of batteries.

I use my car both as a personal and work vehicle, that's the gig economy for you. A lot of riders like my 2005 Mercury Grand Marquis.

I work as an electrician, plumber, and HVAC technician. I often have to haul large and heavy loads which is perfect for my F-350 dually. However, the truck is 19 years old and is not very fuel efficient, so I try to limit its use as much as possible. That's where my relatively new and more fuel efficient Escape comes in

[Red Roja]

Wow, the long conversation a couple pages ago between Naustaria and Cannot Think of a Name made me laugh like crazy Dude got beaned.

[Cannot think of a name]

Bah, BMW wins GTLM at the 24hrs of Daytona. In an old car. The lead Corvette finished 4th.

Lambos went 1 and 2 in GTD.

Distance record.

[The Two Jerseys]

Bah, BMW wins GTLM at the 24hrs of Daytona. In an old car. The lead Corvette finished 4th.

Lambos went 1 and 2 in GTD.

Distance record.

Would've been nice to see the end but NBC done fucked up...

[Cannot think of a name]

Bah, BMW wins GTLM at the 24hrs of Daytona. In an old car. The lead Corvette finished 4th.

Lambos went 1 and 2 in GTD.

Distance record.

Would've been nice to see the end but NBC done fucked up...

Track Pass. There's no ads, they just stop talking to you for a few minutes at a time periodically.

I had IMSA radio going alongside because their commentary is better.

[Elwher]

Would've been nice to see the end but NBC done fucked up...

Track Pass. There's no ads, they just stop talking to you for a few minutes at a time periodically.

I had IMSA radio going alongside because their commentary is better.

Considering the quality of much of the racing commentary, having them stop talking periodically would be a benefit.