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Postby Petrolheadia » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:32 am


>serious about apocalypse
> buys an unreliable car with practically no part supply

>top kek
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:35 am

Petrolheadia wrote:

>serious about apocalypse
> buys an unreliable car with practically no part supply

>top kek

You should relax.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:45 am

Some sort of retro futurism mobius strip...
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Designed in the 80s as a futuristic take on track roadsters. So now it's an 80s take on a futuristic 30s cars...
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Postby Petrolheadia » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:13 pm

You have to replace your car or cars with stuff from a different company (not brand; for example, if you own a Ford, you can't get a Mercury, Lincoln, FoMoCo-era Volvo, Jag, Land Rover, Aston, etc.).
Your budget is what you paid for your current set(s) of wheels.

What do you buy?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:24 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:You have to replace your car or cars with stuff from a different company (not brand; for example, if you own a Ford, you can't get a Mercury, Lincoln, FoMoCo-era Volvo, Jag, Land Rover, Aston, etc.).
Your budget is what you paid for your current set(s) of wheels.

What do you buy?


Fiesta.
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Postby Auzkhia » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:27 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:You have to replace your car or cars with stuff from a different company (not brand; for example, if you own a Ford, you can't get a Mercury, Lincoln, FoMoCo-era Volvo, Jag, Land Rover, Aston, etc.).
Your budget is what you paid for your current set(s) of wheels.

What do you buy?

Buick Park Avenue or Lesabre.
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Postby Eggistaan » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:31 pm

For the past three days ive been thinking of a Transit van mobile home, problem is getting electricity and WIFI in it
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Postby Petrolheadia » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:34 pm

Eggistaan wrote:For the past three days ive been thinking of a Transit van mobile home, problem is getting electricity and WIFI in it
What do you think?

All I could help you with is evaluating other possible models in the segment and price range.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:38 pm

Eggistaan wrote:For the past three days ive been thinking of a Transit van mobile home, problem is getting electricity and WIFI in it
What do you think?


Generally you're going to have an auxiliary battery and some manner of mains hookup.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:42 pm

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Eggistaan wrote:For the past three days ive been thinking of a Transit van mobile home, problem is getting electricity and WIFI in it
What do you think?


Generally you're going to have an auxiliary battery and some manner of mains hookup.

Usually both. There are also solar panels for van lifers as well.
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Postby Auzkhia » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:44 pm

Eggistaan wrote:For the past three days ive been thinking of a Transit van mobile home, problem is getting electricity and WIFI in it
What do you think?

There are so many ways to do that, from using batteries on board or having its own source of power like solar

Vanlife really is fascinating.

Oh, and wifi hotspots are easy to get and use.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:45 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Generally you're going to have an auxiliary battery and some manner of mains hookup.

Usually both. There are also solar panels for van lifers as well.


Yeah, I know my parents' Transit-based RV has both.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:45 pm

This roughly covers internet for RVers (or, again, people who have adopted the van life)

You can get satellite internet at broadband speeds allowing you to get internet anywhere you can face south, but it's like $150/month.
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Postby Elwher » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:52 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:You have to replace your car or cars with stuff from a different company (not brand; for example, if you own a Ford, you can't get a Mercury, Lincoln, FoMoCo-era Volvo, Jag, Land Rover, Aston, etc.).
Your budget is what you paid for your current set(s) of wheels.

What do you buy?

Ford Probe or Pontiac Fiero
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Postby NeoOasis » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:09 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
Eggistaan wrote:For the past three days ive been thinking of a Transit van mobile home, problem is getting electricity and WIFI in it
What do you think?

All I could help you with is evaluating other possible models in the segment and price range.


Reality boils down to Ram ProMaster being the go to choice for many van lifers. Apparently pretty wide, low cargo floor, and cheaper than other equivalent vans. I don't think many van life people go for a Ford. A used Mercedes van is apparently another fairly popular choice.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:14 pm

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Petrolheadia wrote:All I could help you with is evaluating other possible models in the segment and price range.


Reality boils down to Ram ProMaster being the go to choice for many van lifers. Apparently pretty wide, low cargo floor, and cheaper than other equivalent vans. I don't think many van life people go for a Ford. A used Mercedes van is apparently another fairly popular choice.

A fair amount of Vanagons with Westie packages make up the van life community. But those aren't always as well appointed.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:17 pm

I wanted one of these in high school pretty bad.

Mostly because of Peter Brock's SCCA car.

I never wanted it $40k+ bad, though.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:29 pm

NeoOasis wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:All I could help you with is evaluating other possible models in the segment and price range.


Reality boils down to Ram ProMaster being the go to choice for many van lifers. Apparently pretty wide, low cargo floor, and cheaper than other equivalent vans. I don't think many van life people go for a Ford. A used Mercedes van is apparently another fairly popular choice.

C/D did a "camping in a van for the weekend" comparo test a couple years ago, I remember they weren't too fond of the Ram.
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Postby NeoOasis » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:50 pm

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NeoOasis wrote:
Reality boils down to Ram ProMaster being the go to choice for many van lifers. Apparently pretty wide, low cargo floor, and cheaper than other equivalent vans. I don't think many van life people go for a Ford. A used Mercedes van is apparently another fairly popular choice.

C/D did a "camping in a van for the weekend" comparo test a couple years ago, I remember they weren't too fond of the Ram.


Car and Driver is an extremely poor indicator of what car is appropriate for someone. They tend to deviate towards the more "fun" car to drive. The ProMaster may be dynamically a dud, but low loading floor, price, and flexibility all conspire to make it the go to choice for a lot of van life people... that or buying something else used.

Honestly... if I was going to vanlife, and buy brand new... I imagine the ProMaster would be the winner by virtue of being quite a bit cheaper than the other options available. Failing that I'd go for a more recent Ford E-series or slap a camper bed on a truck.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:05 am

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:57 am

Wooo! The Porsche turbo is going racing again!

The 911 turbo was a staple of endurance and sports car racing for such a long time, but it was so dominant that the ACO and FIA kept hobbling it until Porsche threw up their hands and walked away. Then the categories where the 911 turbo also faded, maybe because there wasn't an abundant costumer racer for people to fill the field with as the Viper GT2 faded and the old GT2 category just became two Corvettes.

But now SRO has revived it as a sprint series and the GT2 turbo Porsche that use to be just a track novelty for the super rich is actually a race car again!

I keep reading the reasoning behind the GT2 category and it makes no sense to me, so I'm going to enjoy it while it lasts. Apparently there are a lack of Pro/am drivers for SRO's GT3 category because the downforce on the production based cars makes them too pro to drive or something so to make a class more friendly to Am drivers they created this category where you can't change as much from the production cars but the HP limit goes from 540 to 700. So somehow more powerful cars with less downforce will be better for gentlemen drivers. I guess. And the first car to homologate is literally a track day car not legal on the streets in its customer form. I don't get how this is for gentlemen drivers but whatever, turbo Porsches back on the track for like a year at least.
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Postby Elwher » Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:26 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:Wooo! The Porsche turbo is going racing again!

The 911 turbo was a staple of endurance and sports car racing for such a long time, but it was so dominant that the ACO and FIA kept hobbling it until Porsche threw up their hands and walked away. Then the categories where the 911 turbo also faded, maybe because there wasn't an abundant costumer racer for people to fill the field with as the Viper GT2 faded and the old GT2 category just became two Corvettes.

But now SRO has revived it as a sprint series and the GT2 turbo Porsche that use to be just a track novelty for the super rich is actually a race car again!

I keep reading the reasoning behind the GT2 category and it makes no sense to me, so I'm going to enjoy it while it lasts. Apparently there are a lack of Pro/am drivers for SRO's GT3 category because the downforce on the production based cars makes them too pro to drive or something so to make a class more friendly to Am drivers they created this category where you can't change as much from the production cars but the HP limit goes from 540 to 700. So somehow more powerful cars with less downforce will be better for gentlemen drivers. I guess. And the first car to homologate is literally a track day car not legal on the streets in its customer form. I don't get how this is for gentlemen drivers but whatever, turbo Porsches back on the track for like a year at least.


Very indirectly linked to the above, I really miss the old SCCA races. I wonder what a similar concept would look like today? Corvettes. Miatas, Challengers perhaps? A class where the cars have to be street legal and in regular production would not be as fast and furious, I know, but seeing finely tuned varieties of cars you could see on the streets would attract some fan base, I suspect.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:39 pm

Elwher wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Wooo! The Porsche turbo is going racing again!

The 911 turbo was a staple of endurance and sports car racing for such a long time, but it was so dominant that the ACO and FIA kept hobbling it until Porsche threw up their hands and walked away. Then the categories where the 911 turbo also faded, maybe because there wasn't an abundant costumer racer for people to fill the field with as the Viper GT2 faded and the old GT2 category just became two Corvettes.

But now SRO has revived it as a sprint series and the GT2 turbo Porsche that use to be just a track novelty for the super rich is actually a race car again!

I keep reading the reasoning behind the GT2 category and it makes no sense to me, so I'm going to enjoy it while it lasts. Apparently there are a lack of Pro/am drivers for SRO's GT3 category because the downforce on the production based cars makes them too pro to drive or something so to make a class more friendly to Am drivers they created this category where you can't change as much from the production cars but the HP limit goes from 540 to 700. So somehow more powerful cars with less downforce will be better for gentlemen drivers. I guess. And the first car to homologate is literally a track day car not legal on the streets in its customer form. I don't get how this is for gentlemen drivers but whatever, turbo Porsches back on the track for like a year at least.


Very indirectly linked to the above, I really miss the old SCCA races. I wonder what a similar concept would look like today? Corvettes. Miatas, Challengers perhaps? A class where the cars have to be street legal and in regular production would not be as fast and furious, I know, but seeing finely tuned varieties of cars you could see on the streets would attract some fan base, I suspect.

The SCCA races still happen, they televise or use to at least the run offs every year.

As far as the old SCCA Trans Am series, the World Challenge is pretty close. For a while it straight up looked like the old races, with Camaros, Challengers, Mustangs, 911s, Exiges, etc all production based. The 2017 winners in GT were Porsches a Lambo, a Camaro and a McLaren. The TC class was won by a Miata an Audi RS3 and a Chevy Sonic. So it's basically what you want. And now one of the classes will have 911 turbos!
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:44 pm

You can actually watch full races on YouTube. You have to dig a bit to get the TC class, though.
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Postby Elwher » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:33 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:You can actually watch full races on YouTube. You have to dig a bit to get the TC class, though.


Very cool, Thanks for the info.
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