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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:51 pm

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Petrolheadia wrote:Were we on a Polish forum, there'd be the obligatory comment about unreliability, boring cars or a Nazi Germany reference.

Wait... you're 23, and got a 2015 car on your 17th birthday.. are you sure?


Yeah I was mistaken on that part its a 2007 VW I don't know where I got 2015 from...

My dad nearly bought one in 2007.

He chose a 1.4 diesel Corolla, substituting mediocre reliablity and good quality for good reliablity and mediocre quality.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:57 pm

OK, now I need to slap the want for a third-generation C3 out of my brain. Just because it looks good in WRC spec doesn't mean it's not going to be a bitch to live with in the real world.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:04 pm

Vassenor wrote:OK, now I need to slap the want for a third-generation C3 out of my brain. Just because it looks good in WRC spec doesn't mean it's not going to be a bitch to live with in the real world.

Don't they still cost a lot?
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:06 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:OK, now I need to slap the want for a third-generation C3 out of my brain. Just because it looks good in WRC spec doesn't mean it's not going to be a bitch to live with in the real world.

Don't they still cost a lot?


Local Citroen dealer has second-hand ones starting at £8.4K.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:09 pm

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Petrolheadia wrote:Don't they still cost a lot?


Local Citroen dealer has second-hand ones starting at £8.4K.

How much do you have? And what's so bitchy about them?
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:17 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
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Local Citroen dealer has second-hand ones starting at £8.4K.

How much do you have? And what's so bitchy about them?


Current budget is £10K. And I've had warnings from a friend who owned a C3, but I'm hoping that was just because of the 1st generation one they had.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:22 pm

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Petrolheadia wrote:How much do you have? And what's so bitchy about them?


Current budget is £10K. And I've had warnings from a friend who owned a C3, but I'm hoping that was just because of the 1st generation one they had.

What do you want from a car?
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:25 pm

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Current budget is £10K. And I've had warnings from a friend who owned a C3, but I'm hoping that was just because of the 1st generation one they had.

What do you want from a car?


Commuter box with some carrying capacity. Otherwise I'd just go C1 / Aygo and call it a day.
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Postby Hladgos » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:50 pm

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:51 pm

Hladgos wrote:Hlad arriving to say that he thinks the new Supra is a ugly car


We've already covered how it's a Z4 in an ugly dress.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:54 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Hladgos wrote:Hlad arriving to say that he thinks the new Supra is a ugly car


We've already covered how it's a Z4 in an ugly dress.

At least it's not a crossover. *glares at Mitsubishi*
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Postby Glayji » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:57 pm

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Vassenor wrote:
We've already covered how it's a Z4 in an ugly dress.

At least it's not a crossover. *glares at Mitsubishi*

The Eclipse Cross is one of the worst cars any manufacturer has ever made I know people are buying crossovers but why use the Eclipse name on a crossover you could have called it the Mitsubishi Cross or even the Mitsubishi FJM3935SD but why ruin a name of a sports car just to increase sales
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:32 pm

Hladgos wrote:Hlad arriving to say that he thinks the new Supra is a ugly car

Ugliness is skin-deep.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:33 pm

Glayji wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:At least it's not a crossover. *glares at Mitsubishi*

The Eclipse Cross is one of the worst cars any manufacturer has ever made I know people are buying crossovers but why use the Eclipse name on a crossover you could have called it the Mitsubishi Cross or even the Mitsubishi FJM3935SD but why ruin a name of a sports car just to increase sales

Because these crossovers are what the sports cars used to be - tarting a family car up to upmarket it.
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Postby Hladgos » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:35 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
Hladgos wrote:Hlad arriving to say that he thinks the new Supra is a ugly car

Ugliness is skin-deep.

So if we remove the fairings then it’ll be a grand ol vehicle
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:41 pm

Hladgos wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Ugliness is skin-deep.

So if we remove the fairings then it’ll be a grand ol vehicle

At least decent.

Though I think I'd buy a Corvette or Cayman in that price range.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:44 pm

Hladgos wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Ugliness is skin-deep.

So if we remove the fairings then it’ll be a grand ol vehicle


What is the current Z4 like to drive?
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:47 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Hladgos wrote:So if we remove the fairings then it’ll be a grand ol vehicle


What is the current Z4 like to drive?

Apparently, the experience is a bit too muffled. Kinda worse than the more visceral Chevy or precise Porsche.
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Postby Novus America » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:03 pm

Hladgos wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Ugliness is skin-deep.

So if we remove the fairings then it’ll be a grand ol vehicle


Well then you might as well just buy the Z4.
Why bother uglify it and pretend it is a Supra in the first place?

Though there are still better cars for the price.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:05 pm

Novus America wrote:
Hladgos wrote:So if we remove the fairings then it’ll be a grand ol vehicle


Well then you might as well just buy the Z4.
Why bother uglify it in the first place?

Though there are still better cars for the price.


MX-5 or bust.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:06 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Well then you might as well just buy the Z4.
Why bother uglify it in the first place?

Though there are still better cars for the price.


MX-5 or bust.

Apples to oranges.
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Postby Novus America » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:15 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Well then you might as well just buy the Z4.
Why bother uglify it in the first place?

Though there are still better cars for the price.


MX-5 or bust.


Completely different price range though.
But still better looking than the fake Supra.

I do not understand the logic of rebadging a higher end car as an econo brand either.
The only people I can see buying this are Toyota fan boys, but even they might be turned off by the fact it is actually made by BMW.

Though at the MX-5 price range I would go for an American pony car.

But that is just personal preference.

I would obviously take the Corvette over the fake Supra.
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Postby Auzkhia » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:42 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Well then you might as well just buy the Z4.
Why bother uglify it in the first place?

Though there are still better cars for the price.


MX-5 or bust.

Miata's cool, but rather have the Fiat 124, because it's turbo.

Though I think the GT86 would be Toyota's competitor. Even that needs a turbo option, or better yet the 301hp Camry V6.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:47 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Well then you might as well just buy the Z4.
Why bother uglify it in the first place?

Though there are still better cars for the price.


MX-5 or bust.

No, 370Z.

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