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Postby Petrolheadia » Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:13 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Ah, the expensive European MR2.

So much wrong with this.

80s? Check. Mid-engined? Check? 2-seater? Check. Non-sporty badge? Check. Relationship with mass-market economy cars? Check.

At least Toyota made a separate design.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:34 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:So much wrong with this.

80s? Check. Mid-engined? Check? 2-seater? Check. Non-sporty badge? Check. Relationship with mass-market economy cars? Check.

At least Toyota made a separate design.

Well, that was dumb and completely missing the point.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:50 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:"Project."

Fire damage to "interior".
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:12 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:"Project."

Fire damage to "interior".

I use to flip through the print version of Hemmings in the Time Before the Internet as We Know It and look at all the burnt Ferraris going for 'cheap' and think if I had enough money I probably could cobble together a special from a collection of toasted Ferraris. Also, as a Porsche fanatic, throw shade at a car I couldn't hope to afford even if it was charcoal.
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Postby Special Aromas » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:24 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:"Project."

That thing is so fucked up you couldn't even use it for parts. $9,500? Old mate's dreaming.

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Postby NeoOasis » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:11 pm

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When the handbrake works, I can do it. Last lesson the handbrake was being iffy and wouldn't hold the car at one point. If I hadn't been under dual control then there would've been a problem.


When my dad was teaching me to drive in our (standard) VW Bug, anytime I reached for the handbrake on a hill stop he would simply slap my hand. I quickly learned how to start up without it.


oof, that's one way to learn I suppose. Still a pretty great skill to have... even if modern manuals have hill hold functions along with rev matching downshifts.

Speaking of which, I'll be returning to the US in the next serveral months, meaning it's finally time for me to start shopping for a car. All that really comes to mind is I 100% want a car that's a hatchback and a manual. Which does quite sharply limit my choices.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:50 am

Special Aromas wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:"Project."

That thing is so fucked up you couldn't even use it for parts. $9,500? Old mate's dreaming.

It's a scrapyard that apparently is making a business out of selling VIN plates, because they have a ton of cars...'cars'...like this on Craigslist. Like this (look at all those dead Porsches in the background...) or this one. They also inexplicably have this rare French GT.
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Postby Special Aromas » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:19 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Special Aromas wrote:That thing is so fucked up you couldn't even use it for parts. $9,500? Old mate's dreaming.

It's a scrapyard that apparently is making a business out of selling VIN plates, because they have a ton of cars...'cars'...like this on Craigslist. Like this (look at all those dead Porsches in the background...) or this one. They also inexplicably have this rare French GT.

That Vega looks in good shape but what do they do with the rest, just hope somebody unscrupulous has a written-off but fixable car and wants to do a shady with the VIN plates I presume?

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:57 am

Special Aromas wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:It's a scrapyard that apparently is making a business out of selling VIN plates, because they have a ton of cars...'cars'...like this on Craigslist. Like this (look at all those dead Porsches in the background...) or this one. They also inexplicably have this rare French GT.

That Vega looks in good shape but what do they do with the rest, just hope somebody unscrupulous has a written-off but fixable car and wants to do a shady with the VIN plates I presume?

I really don't know who is buying these cars. They have like half a dozen shelled Porsches listed and that stack you can see in the back. Ferrari 400i s are like...at best $50,000 cars when done. I actually saw one that had been rearended way way back when for $8000 and kind of had a moment with it, but the 400 featured things like an exhaust so complicated that itself was worth more than the asking price of the car. So...I have no idea what the hell someone is going to do with that car that could possibly be worth it. Steal a 400 and do a VIN swap? Take a 400 with a bent frame (presuming that's not also true of the basket case) and transfer all the good bits over to the new frame?

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Postby NeoOasis » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:31 pm



I might consider a Buick Regal Touring X, but only if I can get a damn good deal on it. The fact the wagon require premium fuel, and the fuel economy ain't exactly stellar isn't helping me towards it.

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Postby Special Aromas » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:54 am


Well this article ain't subtle. I never understood the fanatical, inordinate hatred towards SUVs and all things raised. Admittedly they're not my thing either but some people care way too much about what other people want to drive.

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Postby Petrolheadia » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:33 am

Special Aromas wrote:

Well this article ain't subtle. I never understood the fanatical, inordinate hatred towards SUVs and all things raised. Admittedly they're not my thing either but some people care way too much about what other people want to drive.

Seconded.

Especially as I like taller cars - my height does not play well with low seating, even that of traditional sedans like a Toyota Corolla.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:14 pm

A French barn find car collection is to be auctioned off.

Highlights include rare 20s/30s/40s French cars and sub-€500 US luxury cars from the 30s, 40s, 60s and 70s.
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Postby NeoOasis » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:54 pm

Special Aromas wrote:

Well this article ain't subtle. I never understood the fanatical, inordinate hatred towards SUVs and all things raised. Admittedly they're not my thing either but some people care way too much about what other people want to drive.


I can dig it. It's usually people letting their preferences get the better of them. Reality is most people couldn't tell the difference between a 4 inch center of gravity vs 14. Fuel economy goes out the door when all people desire is a massive V8 with more power than sense...

nah, yeah, pointless hatred of things you don't like isn't healthy, and I'm not gonna bash crossovers because they are easier to get in and out of.(Reason many people gets a crossover.)

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:00 pm

Walk? Drive? Have your car walk for you? Sure.
Hyundai has shown off a small model of a car it says can activate robotic legs to walk at 3mph (5km/h) over rough terrain.

Also able to climb a 5ft (1.5m) wall and jump a 5ft gap, the Hyundai Elevate could be useful for emergency rescues following natural disasters, it said.

It was part of a project exploring "beyond the range of wheels", it added.

The concept has been in development for three years and was unveiled at the CES technology fair in Las Vegas.

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Postby East Fredonia » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:10 pm

Toyota Land Cruiser or Range Rover Sport?
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:12 pm

Had to move my test date forward to February 5th. So I may end up snapping under the strain of trying to be ready in time.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:27 pm

East Fredonia wrote:Toyota Land Cruiser or Range Rover Sport?

For what?
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Postby Novus America » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:39 pm

Vassenor wrote:Had to move my test date forward to February 5th. So I may end up snapping under the strain of trying to be ready in time.


Do not think that way.
Worse case scenario just take it again.

Stressing it and is the best way to fail. No need to over prepare.
Just drive when you can (with someone who is allowed to supervise you) until then.

Good driving is in many ways more an art than science. It is about feeling the car as an extension of you more than just following rules. If you walk to the store you do not think about each step.

Obviously you still have to know, and (usually) follow the rules, especially on the tests (there are cases where breaking rules is necessary for safety but such situations should not happen during the test). But really just make the car do what you want it to do.

Do not think of it like one of those tests were you just memorize a bunch of garbage only to forget it after the test.

Think of it like if someone is testing you on walking to the store safely.
You are already ready, sure more practice is good, but you can do it.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:44 pm

Novus America wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Had to move my test date forward to February 5th. So I may end up snapping under the strain of trying to be ready in time.


Do not think that way.
Worse case scenario just take it again.

Stressing it and is the best way to fail. No need to over prepare.
Just drive when you can (with someone who is allowed to supervise you) until then.

Good driving is in many ways more an art than science. It is about feeling the car as an extension of you more than just following rules. If you walk to the store you do not think about each step.

Obviously you still have to know, and (usually) follow the rules, especially on the tests (there are cases where breaking rules is necessary for safety but such situations should not happen during the test). But really just make the car do what you want it to do.

Do not think of it like one of those tests were you just memorize a bunch of garbage only to forget it after the test.

Think of it like if someone is testing you on walking to the store safely.
You are already ready, sure more practice is good, but you can do it.


I mean I've been at this for a year, and starting on Monday I'll be taking lessons daily. My instructor doesn't see any reason why I won't be ready in time.
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Postby Novus America » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:55 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Do not think that way.
Worse case scenario just take it again.

Stressing it and is the best way to fail. No need to over prepare.
Just drive when you can (with someone who is allowed to supervise you) until then.

Good driving is in many ways more an art than science. It is about feeling the car as an extension of you more than just following rules. If you walk to the store you do not think about each step.

Obviously you still have to know, and (usually) follow the rules, especially on the tests (there are cases where breaking rules is necessary for safety but such situations should not happen during the test). But really just make the car do what you want it to do.

Do not think of it like one of those tests were you just memorize a bunch of garbage only to forget it after the test.

Think of it like if someone is testing you on walking to the store safely.
You are already ready, sure more practice is good, but you can do it.


I mean I've been at this for a year, and starting on Monday I'll be taking lessons daily. My instructor doesn't see any reason why I won't be ready in time.


Exactly. You will be ready.
Do not stress it. And if you make a mistake it is not a big deal.
If you make a mistake just learn from it and move on.

But really try to not over think it much.
Obviously follow the rules, but rather than thinking about everything think of the car as part of you. Like your feet. You make your feet go where you want to go and do not think about each step, even though you always keep safety in mind.

Learn the feel of the car, the car is an extension of you.
Obviously make sure you know the rules, but those are pretty simple.

As you better learn the feel of the car you will be a better driver. You will not have a perfect feel for the test, but you do not have to.

And you will not be perfect on the test. You do not have to be. Just good enough to pass.
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Postby East Fredonia » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:46 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
East Fredonia wrote:Toyota Land Cruiser or Range Rover Sport?

For what?

Just hypothetically, if you were buying a large, off-road-capable luxury SUV. (I should have added the new G-class in the question, so that's another choice.
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Postby NeoOasis » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:15 pm

East Fredonia wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:For what?

Just hypothetically, if you were buying a large, off-road-capable luxury SUV. (I should have added the new G-class in the question, so that's another choice.


Toyota all the way. Reliable, durable, can go off road, and it's a Toyota.

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