The Chevy that does not exist?
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by Petrolheadia » Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:30 pm
by Novus America » Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:41 pm
by Petrolheadia » Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:52 pm
by Novus America » Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:01 pm
by Petrolheadia » Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:08 pm
by Novus America » Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:18 pm
by Auzkhia » Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:20 pm
by Cannot think of a name » Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:29 pm
Auzkhia wrote:De gustibus non est disputandum: Motto of the car enthusiast subculture?
There's a variety of tastes here. Have yours changed.
I became more open minded and less of a brand fanatic. The only car I liked no matter my age was the Volkswagen Beetle, both new and classic.
by Elwher » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:00 pm
Auzkhia wrote:De gustibus non est disputandum: Motto of the car enthusiast subculture?
There's a variety of tastes here. Have yours changed.
I became more open minded and less of a brand fanatic. The only car I liked no matter my age was the Volkswagen Beetle, both new and classic.
by Elwher » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:05 pm
Novus America wrote:Elwher wrote:
It all started downhill in 1977 and the appalling trend has accelerated faster than a v-12 Ferrari since then. The late 60s - early 70's were the height of great caddy designs.
Nah, 57-64 were the height.
By the early 70s already getting lazy and blocky.
Sure the late 80s to the early 2000s were bad.
Does ANYONE like the 90s Cadillacs? Even the craziest Cadillac fanatics admit those were dark times.
But the 90s were the low point, things have gotten much better since.
Since 2003 things have improved greatly and the current line up is quite nice.
by Novus America » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:23 pm
Elwher wrote:Novus America wrote:
Nah, 57-64 were the height.
By the early 70s already getting lazy and blocky.
Sure the late 80s to the early 2000s were bad.
Does ANYONE like the 90s Cadillacs? Even the craziest Cadillac fanatics admit those were dark times.
But the 90s were the low point, things have gotten much better since.
Since 2003 things have improved greatly and the current line up is quite nice.
I'm willing to accept how one could prefer the 57-64 Caddys, while not agreeing. But the current line up? Really, the very concept of a Cadillac pickup truck is ludicrous, and most of the rest can not be distinguished from any other car at first glance. If you saw a Cadillac from the 60's or 70's on the street, there was no doubt it was a Cadillac.
by Costa Fierro » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:40 pm
Novus America wrote:90s Cadillac is a case study in how to NOT run a brand.
by Novus America » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:04 pm
by Cannot think of a name » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:43 pm
Elwher wrote:Novus America wrote:
Nah, 57-64 were the height.
By the early 70s already getting lazy and blocky.
Sure the late 80s to the early 2000s were bad.
Does ANYONE like the 90s Cadillacs? Even the craziest Cadillac fanatics admit those were dark times.
But the 90s were the low point, things have gotten much better since.
Since 2003 things have improved greatly and the current line up is quite nice.
I'm willing to accept how one could prefer the 57-64 Caddys, while not agreeing. But the current line up? Really, the very concept of a Cadillac pickup truck is ludicrous, and most of the rest can not be distinguished from any other car at first glance. If you saw a Cadillac from the 60's or 70's on the street, there was no doubt it was a Cadillac.
by Cannot think of a name » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:46 pm
Novus America wrote:Costa Fierro wrote:
You're forgetting 80's Caddy and the cynical marketing behind the Cimarron.
Bu
Well sure the idiocy of the 90s began in the 80s.
The 90s was the Cimarron idea for all Cadillacs.
The Catera was the Cimarron idea all over again.
But by the 90s the rest of the line was just overpriced midrange vehicles.
Cadillac had been affordable luxury, but by the 90s became overpriced midrange.
by Elwher » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:39 am
Cannot think of a name wrote:Novus America wrote:Bu
Well sure the idiocy of the 90s began in the 80s.
The 90s was the Cimarron idea for all Cadillacs.
The Catera was the Cimarron idea all over again.
But by the 90s the rest of the line was just overpriced midrange vehicles.
Cadillac had been affordable luxury, but by the 90s became overpriced midrange.
But the Northstar...
...I don't know, that's all I remember about Cadillac in the 90s, the Northstar engine which was the Aurora engine in Olds. All the automotive journalists loved the Northstar engine. When Road & Track did their first Le Mons they did it in an Olds with a Northstar engine which saved them because it put up with a lot of shit including one of Le Mons' famous penalties.
by Petrolheadia » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:38 am
Cannot think of a name wrote:Novus America wrote:Bu
Well sure the idiocy of the 90s began in the 80s.
The 90s was the Cimarron idea for all Cadillacs.
The Catera was the Cimarron idea all over again.
But by the 90s the rest of the line was just overpriced midrange vehicles.
Cadillac had been affordable luxury, but by the 90s became overpriced midrange.
But the Northstar...
...I don't know, that's all I remember about Cadillac in the 90s, the Northstar engine which was the Aurora engine in Olds. All the automotive journalists loved the Northstar engine. When Road & Track did their first Le Mons they did it in an Olds with a Northstar engine which saved them because it put up with a lot of shit including one of Le Mons' famous penalties.
by Petrolheadia » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:48 am
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