The General Car Thread - The Facelift.

[Cannot think of a name]

Looking at the cars the picture car coordinator picks is always part of my viewing experience.

Is the character supposed to be a rugged honest blue collar guy? Late sixties to early seventies truck.

Rugged but younger, a little more hot headed or 'on the prowl' single dude? Post '67 muscle car.

Doooooouuuuuuuuche. Modern German high end car.

Sleazy/cheezy douche, Corvette.

Tough guy in a business suit, Jaguar sedan.

Tough guys in a business suit and sunglasses, American luxury sedan or SUV.

Jaded cop with a past, beat up American 80s car.

Cop who plays by his own rules, 20th century American muscle.

Handsome rugged guy with a heart: Either a Series Land Rover, Jeep, or first gen Bronco.

And so on

What's the formula for "random passer-by"?

If it's a modern piece, whatever the PAs and production staff showed up in. (actual true story, my car has ended up in a lot of stuff.) If it's a period piece whatever club the coordinator has connections to.

[Elwher]

Other people watching mystery series: *pay attention to the plot*

Me watching mystery series: "Why is a Dutchman driving a K1500 extended cab with the Z71 package?"

Looking at the cars the picture car coordinator picks is always part of my viewing experience.

Is the character supposed to be a rugged honest blue collar guy? Late sixties to early seventies truck.

Rugged but younger, a little more hot headed or 'on the prowl' single dude? Post '67 muscle car.

Doooooouuuuuuuuche. Modern German high end car.

Sleazy/cheezy douche, Corvette.

Tough guy in a business suit, Jaguar sedan.

Tough guys in a business suit and sunglasses, American luxury sedan or SUV.

Jaded cop with a past, beat up American 80s car.

Cop who plays by his own rules, 20th century American muscle.

Handsome rugged guy with a heart: Either a Series Land Rover, Jeep, or first gen Bronco.

And so on

Snooty aristocrat - Classic (60' or 70's) Rolls Royce

Rap star - Modern (post 2000) Rolls or Bentley

Spy with an attitude problem - Little British Sports Car

[Pax Nerdvana]

Looking at the cars the picture car coordinator picks is always part of my viewing experience.

Is the character supposed to be a rugged honest blue collar guy? Late sixties to early seventies truck.

Rugged but younger, a little more hot headed or 'on the prowl' single dude? Post '67 muscle car.

Doooooouuuuuuuuche. Modern German high end car.

Sleazy/cheezy douche, Corvette.

Tough guy in a business suit, Jaguar sedan.

Tough guys in a business suit and sunglasses, American luxury sedan or SUV.

Jaded cop with a past, beat up American 80s car.

Cop who plays by his own rules, 20th century American muscle.

Handsome rugged guy with a heart: Either a Series Land Rover, Jeep, or first gen Bronco.

And so on

Snooty aristocrat - Classic (60' or 70's) Rolls Royce

Rap star - Modern (post 2000) Rolls or Bentley

Spy with an attitude problem - Little British Sports Car

Tough old farmer: battered '70s-'80s American truck
Snobby rich kid: brand new BMW
Farm kid: old hand me down American truck that's been through the mill
Survivalist: Old Jeep, IH Scout, Bronco, or Blazer converted to run on ethanol, and possibly repainted in camo
Hunter: truck or SUV with a deer rack
College student: cheap late '90s/early '00s sedan or coupe
Millionare: some pre-WWII sports car

[Grimmsland]

Tough old farmer: battered '70s-'80s American truck
Snobby rich kid: brand new BMW
Farm kid: old hand me down American truck that's been through the mill
Survivalist: Old Jeep, IH Scout, Bronco, or Blazer converted to run on ethanol, and possibly repainted in camo
Hunter: truck or SUV with a deer rack
College student: cheap late '90s/early '00s sedan or coupe
Millionare: some pre-WWII sports car

Scout! My childhood friends dad only drove Scouts. Never even knew of it until meeting her. Looking back.. why didn't I ask to drive it? He was really cool I bet he would've let me and he knows I taught her how to drive a straight in my 87 Civic. If I could go out right now and buy what I wanted.. I'd get a small long-bed truck - probably a Toyota , a Subaru Outback (and have it lifted and modified) and... some type of luxury/sport coupe not certain what kind.

[Elwher]

Snooty aristocrat - Classic (60' or 70's) Rolls Royce

Rap star - Modern (post 2000) Rolls or Bentley

Spy with an attitude problem - Little British Sports Car

Tough old farmer: battered '70s-'80s American truck
Snobby rich kid: brand new BMW
Farm kid: old hand me down American truck that's been through the mill
Survivalist: Old Jeep, IH Scout, Bronco, or Blazer converted to run on ethanol, and possibly repainted in camo
Hunter: truck or SUV with a deer rack
College student: cheap late '90s/early '00s sedan or coupe
Millionare: some pre-WWII sports car

Rich survivalist - H1 Hummer with ring mount for .50 cal.

[Pax Nerdvana]

Tough old farmer: battered '70s-'80s American truck
Snobby rich kid: brand new BMW
Farm kid: old hand me down American truck that's been through the mill
Survivalist: Old Jeep, IH Scout, Bronco, or Blazer converted to run on ethanol, and possibly repainted in camo
Hunter: truck or SUV with a deer rack
College student: cheap late '90s/early '00s sedan or coupe
Millionare: some pre-WWII sports car

Scout! My childhood friends dad only drove Scouts. Never even knew of it until meeting her. Looking back.. why didn't I ask to drive it? He was really cool I bet he would've let me and he knows I taught her how to drive a straight in my 87 Civic. If I could go out right now and buy what I wanted.. I'd get a small long-bed truck - probably a Toyota , a Subaru Outback (and have it lifted and modified) and... some type of luxury/sport coupe not certain what kind.

That's unfortunate. I too, would love to drive a Scout. They seem like such great vehicles

Tough old farmer: battered '70s-'80s American truck
Snobby rich kid: brand new BMW
Farm kid: old hand me down American truck that's been through the mill
Survivalist: Old Jeep, IH Scout, Bronco, or Blazer converted to run on ethanol, and possibly repainted in camo
Hunter: truck or SUV with a deer rack
College student: cheap late '90s/early '00s sedan or coupe
Millionare: some pre-WWII sports car

Rich survivalist - H1 Hummer with ring mount for .50 cal.

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Fitting.

[Cannot think of a name]

Snooty aristocrat - Classic (60' or 70's) Rolls Royce

Rap star - Modern (post 2000) Rolls or Bentley

Spy with an attitude problem - Little British Sports Car

Tough old farmer: battered '70s-'80s American truck
Snobby rich kid: brand new BMW
Farm kid: old hand me down American truck that's been through the mill
Survivalist: Old Jeep, IH Scout, Bronco, or Blazer converted to run on ethanol, and possibly repainted in camo
Hunter: truck or SUV with a deer rack
College student: cheap late '90s/early '00s sedan or coupe
Millionare: some pre-WWII sports car

Someone whose life has been crushed by the weight of unfulfilled domestic responsibility: Beat up Dodge Caravan
Someone in command of their domestic lifestyle: Toyota Sienna.

[Auzkhia]

Tough old farmer: battered '70s-'80s American truck
Snobby rich kid: brand new BMW
Farm kid: old hand me down American truck that's been through the mill
Survivalist: Old Jeep, IH Scout, Bronco, or Blazer converted to run on ethanol, and possibly repainted in camo
Hunter: truck or SUV with a deer rack
College student: cheap late '90s/early '00s sedan or coupe
Millionare: some pre-WWII sports car

Someone whose life has been crushed by the weight of unfulfilled domestic responsibility: Beat up Dodge Caravan
Someone in command of their domestic lifestyle: Toyota Sienna.

Or Plymouth Grand Voyager in the case of Malcolm in the Middle.

A Sienna is the desi family vehicle of choice in Pennsylvania.

[Pax Nerdvana]

Tough old farmer: battered '70s-'80s American truck
Snobby rich kid: brand new BMW
Farm kid: old hand me down American truck that's been through the mill
Survivalist: Old Jeep, IH Scout, Bronco, or Blazer converted to run on ethanol, and possibly repainted in camo
Hunter: truck or SUV with a deer rack
College student: cheap late '90s/early '00s sedan or coupe
Millionare: some pre-WWII sports car

Someone whose life has been crushed by the weight of unfulfilled domestic responsibility: Beat up Dodge Caravan
Someone in command of their domestic lifestyle: Toyota Sienna.

Soccer mom: Toyota or Honda minivan
Wannabe offroader: tricked out Jeep Wrangler that's never left a paved road

[Elwher]

Anyone got additions to the list?

https://www.motortrend.com/news/ugliest-cars-of-the-2010s-list/?utm_source=digg&utm_medium=email

[Soled]

I drive a 2007 Volvo V70. It's not "old", dammit! It's just... Not new.

[Auzkhia]

Anyone got additions to the list?

https://www.motortrend.com/news/ugliest-cars-of-the-2010s-list/?utm_source=digg&utm_medium=email

I'd dispute some of those, I actually don't think the Panamera is that ugly.

If the Honda Accord crosstour is on it, its Acura sibling should be on it too.

Hell, Acura's beak design at the time was definitely not a good look tbh

[Major-Tom]

Anyone got additions to the list?

https://www.motortrend.com/news/ugliest-cars-of-the-2010s-list/?utm_source=digg&utm_medium=email

There's a great deal of early 2010s FCA products I'd throw on the list (IE the Nitro, which ended production in 2012), or the revamped Chrysler Pacifica which is such an eyesore. I'd tack on the Nissan Quest as well.

I drive a 2007 Volvo V70. It's not "old", dammit! It's just... Not new.

I absolutely adore the 2000s Volvo wagons. Suppose it's sentimental for me, first car I ever put my foot to was a bright red '01 Volvo V70 (my mom's old car). They're utilitarian tanks.

[Green October Z]

Teslas are way overpriced and overrated, so no thank you! I like my 2002 Toyota Corolla just fine. My dad bought it for me used 8 years ago and it has never broken down nor given me any trouble.

[Major-Tom]

Teslas are way overpriced and overrated, so no thank you! I like my 2002 Toyota Corolla just fine. My dad bought it for me used 8 years ago and it has never broken down nor given me any trouble.

I've heard Tesla's reliability is hit or miss, generally, they have superb 0-60 times and fairly decent safety, but it doesn't justify the price tag or the batteries that aren't built to withstand too many miles.

[The Two Jerseys]

Anyone got additions to the list?

https://www.motortrend.com/news/ugliest-cars-of-the-2010s-list/?utm_source=digg&utm_medium=email

Whoever wrote those articles has no idea what brutalism is...

And they don't like the Checker Marathon or Charger Daytona, so fuck them.

[Green October Z]

Teslas are way overpriced and overrated, so no thank you! I like my 2002 Toyota Corolla just fine. My dad bought it for me used 8 years ago and it has never broken down nor given me any trouble.

I've heard Tesla's reliability is hit or miss, generally, they have superb 0-60 times and fairly decent safety, but it doesn't justify the price tag or the batteries that aren't built to withstand too many miles.

People want hyped stuff regardless of their quality.

[Costa Fierro]

Teslas are way overpriced and overrated, so no thank you! I like my 2002 Toyota Corolla just fine. My dad bought it for me used 8 years ago and it has never broken down nor given me any trouble.

I've heard Tesla's reliability is hit or miss, generally, they have superb 0-60 times and fairly decent safety, but it doesn't justify the price tag or the batteries that aren't built to withstand too many miles.

Quite a few of the cars have the battery packs hand assembled, which means that if the individual batteries are too close together, they spontaneously combust.

As for the ugly cars, either my tastes have changed or I don't find most of those cars/SUV's ugly. Except for the one designed by the cosmetic surgeon. He ruins women for a living, so he ruins a car. Although it looks like something from 2000.

[Elwher]

Anyone got additions to the list?

https://www.motortrend.com/news/ugliest-cars-of-the-2010s-list/?utm_source=digg&utm_medium=email

Whoever wrote those articles has no idea what brutalism is...

And they don't like the Checker Marathon or Charger Daytona, so fuck them.

They may well understand brutalism, as I do since my city's public library was designed by Paul Rudolph. And, Also like me, they may well think that brutalism is UGLY.

[The Two Jerseys]

Whoever wrote those articles has no idea what brutalism is...

And they don't like the Checker Marathon or Charger Daytona, so fuck them.

They may well understand brutalism, as I do since my city's public library was designed by Paul Rudolph. And, Also like me, they may well think that brutalism is UGLY.

They're calling '50s car design "brutalist".

Trying to look like fighter jets and spaceships is the complete opposite of brutalism.

[Novus America]

They may well understand brutalism, as I do since my city's public library was designed by Paul Rudolph. And, Also like me, they may well think that brutalism is UGLY.

They're calling '50s car design "brutalist".

Trying to look like fighter jets and spaceships is the complete opposite of brutalism.

Yes, late 50s cars would be properly called “Mid Century Neo Futurist” or “Googie”, definitely not brutalist. Brutalism is big concrete blocks.
Calling late 50s cars Brutalist is like calling the Seattle Space Needle Brutalist.

[The Two Jerseys]

They're calling '50s car design "brutalist".

Trying to look like fighter jets and spaceships is the complete opposite of brutalism.

Yes, late 50s cars would be properly called “Mid Century Neo Futurist” or “Googie”, definitely not brutalist. Brutalism is big concrete blocks.
Calling late 50s cars Brutalist is like calling the Seattle Space Needle Brutalist.

We call it "Doo-wop" around here.

[Novus America]

Yes, late 50s cars would be properly called “Mid Century Neo Futurist” or “Googie”, definitely not brutalist. Brutalism is big concrete blocks.
Calling late 50s cars Brutalist is like calling the Seattle Space Needle Brutalist.

We call it "Doo-wop" around here.

New Jersey I suppose?
Doo-wop architecture (Doo-wop actually is originally a type of music very popular in the late 50s to early 60s), Googie and Mid Century Neo-Futurism are for all intents and purposes interchangeable terms. Raygun Gothic is another term you can use.
Atompunk is also possible but more for a general retro future aesthetic, not just the specific architecture.

Mid Century Neo Futurism the more “proper” with Doo-wop being the common or slang term in the New Jersey area and Northeast. Googie more the term in the West.

But it is of course as noted really in many ways the opposite of brutalism.

[Cannot think of a name]

They're calling '50s car design "brutalist".

Trying to look like fighter jets and spaceships is the complete opposite of brutalism.

Yes, late 50s cars would be properly called “Mid Century Neo Futurist” or “Googie”, definitely not brutalist. Brutalism is big concrete blocks.
Calling late 50s cars Brutalist is like calling the Seattle Space Needle Brutalist.

The only car design that would qualify as 'googie' would be the Oscar Meyer Wienermobile.

[Novus America]

Yes, late 50s cars would be properly called “Mid Century Neo Futurist” or “Googie”, definitely not brutalist. Brutalism is big concrete blocks.
Calling late 50s cars Brutalist is like calling the Seattle Space Needle Brutalist.

The only car design that would qualify as 'googie' would be the Oscar Meyer Wienermobile.

That would be an extreme example, but I think you could fairly call a 59 Cadillac Googie too.

Of course cars and building architecture are not the same thing, so directly trying to complare the two has difficulties. Regardless late 50s to early 60s cars are no way brutalist at all.

Brutalism is hulking blocks of unfinished concrete. Béton brut literally means “raw concrete”.
This is a really the only car you can really call brutalist https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bison_c ... ured_lorry

Meanwhile Googie is light and airy, gravity defying and even outright fantastical, and spaceship and science fiction inspired.
Making something look like a late 50s to early 60s idea of a futuristic spaceship is very much Googie.