The General Car Thread - The Facelift.

[Petrolheadia]

1996? It was completely bland and unremarkable. A functional car, but one that looked like pretty much all other mid range mid 90s meh sedans..

94-96: It was a performance Caprice, in the way that a Marauder was to the Grand Marquis, a few years later.

A performance Caprice fails to be a good US fullsize, and fails to be a good performance car. The mediocre of both worlds.

[Auzkhia]

94-96: It was a performance Caprice, in the way that a Marauder was to the Grand Marquis, a few years later.

A performance Caprice fails to be a good US fullsize, and fails to be a good performance car. The mediocre of both worlds.

I rather much have a Mercury Marauder or a Chrysler 300 SRT8, or Buick Roadmaster LT1 if I had to have a 90s GM B-body.

[Petrolheadia]

A performance Caprice fails to be a good US fullsize, and fails to be a good performance car. The mediocre of both worlds.

I rather much have a Mercury Marauder or a Chrysler 300 SRT8, or Buick Roadmaster LT1 if I had to have a 90s GM B-body.

The 300's is the only legitimate performance platform here.

[Novus America]

I rather much have a Mercury Marauder or a Chrysler 300 SRT8, or Buick Roadmaster LT1 if I had to have a 90s GM B-body.

The 300's is the only legitimate performance platform here.

But why go for a mid 90s sedan in the first place? Unless you want affordable meh, it is not the way to go.

[Cannot think of a name]

The 300's is the only legitimate performance platform here.

But why go for a mid 90s sedan in the first place? Unless you want affordable meh, it is not the way to go.

They're into boats. He's part of the Panther body fanclub. That's they're thing. Different strokes and all that...

[Elwher]

But why go for a mid 90s sedan in the first place? Unless you want affordable meh, it is not the way to go.

They're into boats. He's part of the Panther body fanclub. That's they're thing. Different strokes and all that...

Those are dingies at best. If you want boats, late 50's to early 60's Chrysler is the American way to go, or 50s-60's Rolls and Bentleys for world wide.

[Springfeal]

I think Teslas are overrated and overpriced. My favorite car is the 1993 Ford Camry.

[Auzkhia]

I think Teslas are overrated and overpriced. My favorite car is the 1993 Ford Camry.

Oh, I also like the Dodge Accord, such a best seller.

[Ordenstaat Burgundy]

My personal favorite...Well I have to separate my two favorites based on type:

My favorite everyday/practical car is the Toyota 4Runner or the Rav4. I have had the opportunity to drive both and they handle very well. The former is great for it's carry capacity/some ability to handle rougher roads whereas the latter is just fun to drive.

Now my favorite impractical/dream car would have to be the 1932 ford Roadster. They are beautiful vehicles and perform well when properly maintained.

[Springfeal]

I think Teslas are overrated and overpriced. My favorite car is the 1993 Ford Camry.

Oh, I also like the Dodge Accord, such a best seller.

Honda made the Accord. The Ford Camry is a real rarity. It was only produced for the 1993 model year and only about 10,000 were manufactured before they were forced to cease production.

[Elwher]

My personal favorite...Well I have to separate my two favorites based on type:

My favorite everyday/practical car is the Toyota 4Runner or the Rav4. I have had the opportunity to drive both and they handle very well. The former is great for it's carry capacity/some ability to handle rougher roads whereas the latter is just fun to drive.

Now my favorite impractical/dream car would have to be the 1932 ford Roadster. They are beautiful vehicles and perform well when properly maintained.

If we are going to go for an all time favorite; then:

[Petrolheadia]

My personal favorite...Well I have to separate my two favorites based on type:

My favorite everyday/practical car is the Toyota 4Runner or the Rav4. I have had the opportunity to drive both and they handle very well. The former is great for it's carry capacity/some ability to handle rougher roads whereas the latter is just fun to drive.

Now my favorite impractical/dream car would have to be the 1932 ford Roadster. They are beautiful vehicles and perform well when properly maintained.

If we are going to go for an all time favorite; then:

Something about the styling rubs me the wrong way. Maybe the headlights, maybe the fact that it looks like someone shoved the body on an oversized platform frame...

[Cannot think of a name]

My personal favorite...Well I have to separate my two favorites based on type:

My favorite everyday/practical car is the Toyota 4Runner or the Rav4. I have had the opportunity to drive both and they handle very well. The former is great for it's carry capacity/some ability to handle rougher roads whereas the latter is just fun to drive.

Now my favorite impractical/dream car would have to be the 1932 ford Roadster. They are beautiful vehicles and perform well when properly maintained.

If we are going to go for an all time favorite; then:

The only thing that disappoints me about the Cord is that the horn is not a big band.

[The Two Jerseys]

If we are going to go for an all time favorite; then:

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The only thing that disappoints me about the Cord is that the horn is not a big band.

Unfortunately the technology of the time was unable to overcome all the technical issues with the trombone slide.

[Auzkhia]

Oh, I also like the Dodge Accord, such a best seller.

Honda made the Accord. The Ford Camry is a real rarity. It was only produced for the 1993 model year and only about 10,000 were manufactured before they were forced to cease production.

Oh right, I was thinking of the Honda Neon.

Also don't forget about the Chevrolet Corolla. It was attempt by GM to capture compact car market and to compete with imports.

[Elwher]

If we are going to go for an all time favorite; then:

The only thing that disappoints me about the Cord is that the horn is not a big band.

Only available as an after-market add on from J.C Whitney

[Novus America]

They're into boats. He's part of the Panther body fanclub. That's they're thing. Different strokes and all that...

Those are dingies at best. If you want boats, late 50's to early 60's Chrysler is the American way to go, or 50s-60's Rolls and Bentleys for world wide.

And at least those had style. If you want a boat with style, cool.
But mid 90s cars are so bland and nondescript.

[Patridam]

Those are dingies at best. If you want boats, late 50's to early 60's Chrysler is the American way to go, or 50s-60's Rolls and Bentleys for world wide.

And at least those had style. If you want a boat with style, cool.
But mid 90s cars are so bland and nondescript.

None of those are a particularly good value now, and are all completely impractical and impossible to drive daily. I daily drive a 94' Town Car - yes, a panther body - and it is far from meh but also a competent daily driver. If you were going for a large American car that you didn't need to daily, a late 60s/very early 70s GM or FoMoCo premium/luxury model is a better bet anyway.

Unrelated, but if any of you are familiar with the game/sim Automation, Petrolheadia is judging a competition to make a 1968 fullsize sedan and encouraged me to enter. This is what I created, given the game's limited capabilities:

Standard Features

357 cid 16v OHV V8, 93 AKI
Single 4bbl Beldingford Carbuerator
4.0" bore x 3.55" stroke
250 gross (207 net) hp @ 4300 rpm
375 gross (312 net) ft/lbs torque @ 2200 rpm​
3 speed SlushaMatic automatic transmission
1st: 2.65:1, 2nd: 1.55:1, 3rd: 1:1
2.88 Rear Axle Ratio​
128" wheelbase, 230" length, 78" width, 3930 lbs
Power Recirculating Ball Steering, Power Brakes
Front 12" Disc Brakes, Rear 12" Finned Drum Brakes
P220/80CH15 Bias Ply tires​
22 Gallon Gas Tank​

Optional Equipment

Hulla Blue Premium Metal Flake Paint
Z16 Sport Handling Package
P220/80RH Radial Tires
Four Wheel Disc Brakes
Front Sway Bar
Firmer Rate Springs​
Interior Gauge Package
ComforTronic Automatic Temperature Control
Fingertip Speed Control

https://www.beamng.com/threads/automation-build-challenge-june-july.63232/

[Cannot think of a name]

I love this man.

[Springfeal]

Honda made the Accord. The Ford Camry is a real rarity. It was only produced for the 1993 model year and only about 10,000 were manufactured before they were forced to cease production.

Oh right, I was thinking of the Honda Neon.

Also don't forget about the Chevrolet Corolla. It was attempt by GM to capture compact car market and to compete with imports.

Look, here is a vintage commercial for the 1993 Ford Camry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

[Auzkhia]

Those are dingies at best. If you want boats, late 50's to early 60's Chrysler is the American way to go, or 50s-60's Rolls and Bentleys for world wide.

And at least those had style. If you want a boat with style, cool.
But mid 90s cars are so bland and nondescript.

de gustibus non est disputandum, though my favorite classics are Mercedes, but I do like mediocre American branded cars, malaise and radwood.

[Petrolheadia]

Those are dingies at best. If you want boats, late 50's to early 60's Chrysler is the American way to go, or 50s-60's Rolls and Bentleys for world wide.

And at least those had style. If you want a boat with style, cool.
But mid 90s cars are so bland and nondescript.

The Town Car and Fleetwood are hardly nondescript.

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http://www.cadillaccountryclub.com/imag ... od1994.jpg

[Petrolheadia]

Those are dingies at best. If you want boats, late 50's to early 60's Chrysler is the American way to go, or 50s-60's Rolls and Bentleys for world wide.

And at least those had style. If you want a boat with style, cool.
But mid 90s cars are so bland and nondescript.

None of those are a particularly good value now, and are all completely impractical and impossible to drive daily. I daily drive a 94' Town Car - yes, a panther body - and it is far from meh but also a competent daily driver. If you were going for a large American car that you didn't need to daily, a late 60s/very early 70s GM or FoMoCo premium/luxury model is a better bet anyway.

Unrelated, but if any of you are familiar with the game/sim Automation, Petrolheadia is judging a competition to make a 1968 fullsize sedan and encouraged me to enter. This is what I created, given the game's limited capabilities:

Standard Features

357 cid 16v OHV V8, 93 AKI
Single 4bbl Beldingford Carbuerator
4.0" bore x 3.55" stroke
250 gross (207 net) hp @ 4300 rpm
375 gross (312 net) ft/lbs torque @ 2200 rpm​
3 speed SlushaMatic automatic transmission
1st: 2.65:1, 2nd: 1.55:1, 3rd: 1:1
2.88 Rear Axle Ratio​
128" wheelbase, 230" length, 78" width, 3930 lbs
Power Recirculating Ball Steering, Power Brakes
Front 12" Disc Brakes, Rear 12" Finned Drum Brakes
P220/80CH15 Bias Ply tires​
22 Gallon Gas Tank​

Optional Equipment

Hulla Blue Premium Metal Flake Paint
Z16 Sport Handling Package
P220/80RH Radial Tires
Four Wheel Disc Brakes
Front Sway Bar
Firmer Rate Springs​
Interior Gauge Package
ComforTronic Automatic Temperature Control
Fingertip Speed Control

https://www.beamng.com/threads/automation-build-challenge-june-july.63232/

I've made my own benchmark entry, the 1968 Gavril Bluebuck, based on the same-year Chevrolet Impala and Ford Galaxie. The enrolled one has a 194 net HP 2-bbl 291 ci V8, 3-spd Turbo-Matic transmission, radial tires, all-wheel disc brakes and sway bars, and a vinyl roof.

Link to competition page - post #7


Also, does anyone have ideas for the themes of further competitions?
I have four ideas - '67 supercars, '88 offroaders, '04 minivans, '20 luxury crossovers.

[Cannot think of a name]

I ran across one of these in college for $8,000. At the time I had $8,000 that I was supposed to be using for my education...which I did. But I thought long an hard about getting this instead. Of course someone had dropped a Corvette engine in the one I found, but swapping the Maserati engine back in would not have been a $100,000 operation. I could have actually paid back my student debt with that car it seems...

[Cannot think of a name]

Prank Frank

Craigslist ad popped up for a 1977 Wienermobile for $8,500. Except it doesn't picture a 1977 Wienermobile.

Though the idea of turning a wienermobile into a camper intrigues me. I'd probably be done with the idea after the first trip, though.