The General Car Thread - The Facelift.

[Cannot think of a name]

Baby Boomers are killing the sedan

I presented another statistic from carmax, and they report that the average age of a sedan owner is 37 years old, that's millennial right there. And, the average age of the new car buyer is 54, well in the boomer range.

Should read, "Baby boomers have fucked the economy so hard that people aren't able to buy a new car until they're in their fucking 50s"

[Petrolheadia]

Baby Boomers are killing the sedan

I presented another statistic from carmax, and they report that the average age of a sedan owner is 37 years old, that's millennial right there. And, the average age of the new car buyer is 54, well in the boomer range.

Should read, "Baby boomers have fucked the economy so hard that people aren't able to buy a new car until they're in their fucking 50s"

And the mechanism of "fucking" was...?

[Cannot think of a name]

Should read, "Baby boomers have fucked the economy so hard that people aren't able to buy a new car until they're in their fucking 50s"

And the mechanism of "fucking" was...?

An appropriate topic for another thread.

[Petrolheadia]

And the mechanism of "fucking" was...?

An appropriate topic for another thread.

Care to start it? It would be quite interesting.

Or at least give me points to touch upon when making one.

[Auzkhia]

Baby Boomers are killing the sedan

I presented another statistic from carmax, and they report that the average age of a sedan owner is 37 years old, that's millennial right there. And, the average age of the new car buyer is 54, well in the boomer range.

Should read, "Baby boomers have fucked the economy so hard that people aren't able to buy a new car until they're in their fucking 50s"

For context, Cadillac's CEO said "millennials are killing cars" but that's not true young adults can barely afford to buy new, especially luxury cars.

My parents last car purchase would have paid off my student loans.

[Petrolheadia]

Should read, "Baby boomers have fucked the economy so hard that people aren't able to buy a new car until they're in their fucking 50s"

For context, Cadillac's CEO said "millennials are killing cars" but that's not true young adults can barely afford to buy new, especially luxury cars.

Young adults can't afford to buy much in general.

[NeoOasis]

For context, Cadillac's CEO said "millennials are killing cars" but that's not true young adults can barely afford to buy new, especially luxury cars.

Young adults can't afford to buy much in general.

Cadillac should stop making excuses, and make a product worth buying for once. The average luxury car today offers almost nothing to justify it over a more pedestrian model. I can get leather seats, navigation, and a plethora of self steering safety tech in a run of the mill Accord. Cadillac, Lincoln, Acura, Infiniti really offer nothing extra compared to their main stream counterparts.

Considering I'll be in the market for a new car soon... Cadillac has nothing I want. (Then again GM has nothing I want.)

[Auzkhia]

Young adults can't afford to buy much in general.

Cadillac should stop making excuses, and make a product worth buying for once. The average luxury car today offers almost nothing to justify it over a more pedestrian model. I can get leather seats, navigation, and a plethora of self steering safety tech in a run of the mill Accord. Cadillac, Lincoln, Acura, Infiniti really offer nothing extra compared to their main stream counterparts.

Considering I'll be in the market for a new car soon... Cadillac has nothing I want. (Then again GM has nothing I want.)

If I get a Cadillac, it would only be the CT5 and CT6. It's RWD unlike the Lincoln Continental and upcoming Zephyr sedans, which are FWD.

Though, I could also get a Mercedes-Benz, if I could afford luxury new.

[Petrolheadia]

Young adults can't afford to buy much in general.

Cadillac should stop making excuses, and make a product worth buying for once. The average luxury car today offers almost nothing to justify it over a more pedestrian model. I can get leather seats, navigation, and a plethora of self steering safety tech in a run of the mill Accord. Cadillac, Lincoln, Acura, Infiniti really offer nothing extra compared to their main stream counterparts.

Considering I'll be in the market for a new car soon... Cadillac has nothing I want. (Then again GM has nothing I want.)

The problem is not with luxury cars, the problem is that you're not in the market for one. It's the handling, material quality, higher-reaching equipment list, brand prestige, etc... that makes a luxury car, not just the equipment level.

And before you cut GM out, why the prejudice?

[The Two Jerseys]

162 miles down, 1100 to go!

[Petrolheadia]

162 miles down, 1100 to go!

Of what?

[The Two Jerseys]

162 miles down, 1100 to go!

Of what?

Racing.

[Cannot think of a name]

Of what?

Racing.

Oh crap, it's the Indy 500 today. Clearly not what you were talking about but I forgot all the same.

[The Two Jerseys]

Racing.

Oh crap, it's the Indy 500 today. Clearly not what you were talking about but I forgot all the same.

It's the Monaco GP, Indy 500, and Coca-Cola 600.

[Cannot think of a name]

Oh crap, it's the Indy 500 today. Clearly not what you were talking about but I forgot all the same.

It's the Monaco GP, Indy 500, and Coca-Cola 600.

And the Causeway Classic! Regional karting events...they count right?





I can't remember what the race was, I just remember thinking it was weird we held a big race the same weekend.

[The Two Jerseys]

LOL, Rossi road raging at Servia because he's a lap down and won't move over.

[NeoOasis]

The problem is not with luxury cars, the problem is that you're not in the market for one. It's the handling, material quality, higher-reaching equipment list, brand prestige, etc... that makes a luxury car, not just the equipment level.

And before you cut GM out, why the prejudice?

That's the thing. Handling and material quality in many luxury brands isn't notably better, a higher reaching equipment list is a stretch unless you include some weird stuff like smell diffusers and leather lined trunks. Brand presitge is one of the poorest excuses to charge more for a car. I still remember the tripe Cadillac shoved out in the 90s, and their brand is still budget luxury to me.

That is why I cut GM out. Their aggressive cost cutting, bland line up, and lack of manual transmission options leaves them with absolutely nothing worth noting or even considering.

[Cannot think of a name]

Man, I still have pictures on my computer of one of these on Craigslist I found like 10 or 15 years ago for $8,000.

Friends use to joke that I'd just waste any money I had on cars...I'd have made so much damn money now.

[Novus America]

Man, I still have pictures on my computer of one of these on Craigslist I found like 10 or 15 years ago for $8,000.

Friends use to joke that I'd just waste any money I had on cars...I'd have made so much damn money now.

If you had picked up 59 Caddies a few years back you could make a killing.
Those things just keep getting more and more valuable.

[Risottia]

https://www.repubblica.it/economia/2019 ... 2-S1.12-T1
https://www.ft.com/content/fad8b3b2-804 ... e435b57a3b
Fiat Chrysler Automobiles has proposed a €32.6bn all-share merger with Renault, ...

After buying Chrysler some years ago, Fiat goes for another major prize as Rénault (which also controls Dacia and has an alliance with Nissan). If this goes (and it requires a green light from various antitrust authorities) FCA+Rénault will become the third carmaker in the world by number of vehicles sold every year, make Rénault enter the high-end market through the Alfa-Romeo, Lancia, Maserati and Ferrari brands, and make FCA gain a line of full-electric vehicles from Rénault and Nissan.
Do you think this merger will be green-lighted?

[Bombadil]

Great links..

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48420334

One most people can read.

I'm not a fan of massive mergers leading to evermore massive companies, I've worked with FCA and they're archaic.. giving them more ownership can't be a great idea.

[The Blaatschapen]

I couldn't car less.

[Bombadil]

I couldn't car less.

You auto

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

too big, all of them should be broken down

[Costa Fierro]

And thus, Chrysler consumes another host.