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by New Oyashima » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:57 pm
by Novus America » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:12 pm
by Cannot think of a name » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:13 am
by Petrolheadia » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:53 am
by Special Aromas » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:36 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:For when people went to school up hill both ways in the snow.
by Novus America » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:45 pm
Petrolheadia wrote:NeoOasis wrote:
Toyota all the way. Reliable, durable, can go off road, and it's a Toyota.
Range Rovers can go far deeper offroad than anyone expects. And the importance of durability and reliability depends on how much you need to have it on first call, and how long you're keeping it.
The choice still depends on the circumstances of purchase.
If I needed uncompromised reliability, the Lexus LX570 would be my choice.
If I didn't care that much about reliability, and wanted the on-road performance just as much as off-road, the Range Rover. The big one.
If I wanted a mix of decent refinement and decent reliability, a high-end Lincoln Navigator would be my choice.
by Vassenor » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:49 pm
Novus America wrote:Petrolheadia wrote:Range Rovers can go far deeper offroad than anyone expects. And the importance of durability and reliability depends on how much you need to have it on first call, and how long you're keeping it.
The choice still depends on the circumstances of purchase.
If I needed uncompromised reliability, the Lexus LX570 would be my choice.
If I didn't care that much about reliability, and wanted the on-road performance just as much as off-road, the Range Rover. The big one.
If I wanted a mix of decent refinement and decent reliability, a high-end Lincoln Navigator would be my choice.
Though honestly one size fits all cars are generally not great.
If you want conflicting qualities in a car, it is probably best to get more than one car.
If money is an major issue you probably cannot afford a 70+k car anyways.
If you want true off road, a luxury SUV is not the best choice anyways.
How many people actually take their Escalades, Navigators, Range Rovers, G-class, etc, off road anyways? Most just cruise suburban and urban streets.
The 4 wheel drive used only for bad rain and snow.
by Novus America » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:52 pm
Vassenor wrote:Novus America wrote:
Though honestly one size fits all cars are generally not great.
If you want conflicting qualities in a car, it is probably best to get more than one car.
If money is an major issue you probably cannot afford a 70+k car anyways.
If you want true off road, a luxury SUV is not the best choice anyways.
How many people actually take their Escalades, Navigators, Range Rovers, G-class, etc, off road anyways? Most just cruise suburban and urban streets.
The 4 wheel drive used only for bad rain and snow.
I mean I've sat behind an X5 that certainly looked dusty enough on the tail to have seen plenty of field time.
by The Two Jerseys » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:07 pm
by NeoOasis » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:44 pm
New Oyashima wrote:Does anyone here track their car down the 1/4? So far my best is 10.9 in my NSRT.
by Cannot think of a name » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:01 pm
Novus America wrote:Petrolheadia wrote:Range Rovers can go far deeper offroad than anyone expects. And the importance of durability and reliability depends on how much you need to have it on first call, and how long you're keeping it.
The choice still depends on the circumstances of purchase.
If I needed uncompromised reliability, the Lexus LX570 would be my choice.
If I didn't care that much about reliability, and wanted the on-road performance just as much as off-road, the Range Rover. The big one.
If I wanted a mix of decent refinement and decent reliability, a high-end Lincoln Navigator would be my choice.
Though honestly one size fits all cars are generally not great.
If you want conflicting qualities in a car, it is probably best to get more than one car.
If money is an major issue you probably cannot afford a 70+k car anyways.
If you want true off road, a luxury SUV is not the best choice anyways.
How many people actually take their Escalades, Navigators, Range Rovers, G-class, etc, off road anyways? Most just cruise suburban and urban streets.
The 4 wheel drive used only for bad rain and snow.
by Novus America » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:08 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Novus America wrote:
Though honestly one size fits all cars are generally not great.
If you want conflicting qualities in a car, it is probably best to get more than one car.
If money is an major issue you probably cannot afford a 70+k car anyways.
If you want true off road, a luxury SUV is not the best choice anyways.
How many people actually take their Escalades, Navigators, Range Rovers, G-class, etc, off road anyways? Most just cruise suburban and urban streets.
The 4 wheel drive used only for bad rain and snow.
I've off roaded in a Range Rover. It was at a Range Rover demonstration, but still...
by Special Aromas » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:34 am
Novus America wrote:Cannot think of a name wrote:I've off roaded in a Range Rover. It was at a Range Rover demonstration, but still...
And it was not yours. Real off roading is usually hard on a vehicle, you are still going to get dings and scratches. For an old Silverado nobody cares if it gets a few more dings.
But on a new luxury SUV, I doubt most people want to get it all dirty and the paint scratched.
by Cannot think of a name » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:39 am
by Novus America » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:36 pm
Special Aromas wrote:Novus America wrote:
And it was not yours. Real off roading is usually hard on a vehicle, you are still going to get dings and scratches. For an old Silverado nobody cares if it gets a few more dings.
But on a new luxury SUV, I doubt most people want to get it all dirty and the paint scratched.
10 years ago I would have agreed with you, yet now here I sit sleeping comfortably at night while my 18 month old, $50,000 truck sits uncovered in the front yard with a couple of decent scratches on the front bumper and a nice dent in the tailgate. If I was earning twice as much, I'd probably feel the same way about a $100,000 luxury SUV as well despite the fact I can't quite picture myself giving that less of a shit about such an expensive vehicle in my current financial situation. Or maybe it's because I'm technically just leasing it, I don't know. Anyway, smoke em if you've got em.
Nonetheless, there's still plenty of off-road situations where you can benefit from a raised ride height and low range without damaging your car in the process. Sealed roads get soft and pothole all the time; it's nice to be able to drive straight through them without worrying about getting stuck or scraping. You can technically manage that sort of stuff in a lower car I'm sure, but you can't deny it's easier in a Range Rover.
by Petrolheadia » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:14 pm
by New Oyashima » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:14 pm
NeoOasis wrote:New Oyashima wrote:Does anyone here track their car down the 1/4? So far my best is 10.9 in my NSRT.
I did to a couple of cars I owned. I don't remember what times my Honda Civic got, but I remember my Ford Contour got a 16.6. First time on the track, but managed a perfect launch, perfect shifts, and and no engine issues. Overall a fun experience.
by Elwher » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:34 pm
Petrolheadia wrote:One of the best ways to learn about history is to learn from those who have experienced it. And as I assume we all have working memories, why don't we teach each orher some history of cars?
I'll try to provide some of my memories of growing up in Puławy, Poland, in the 00s.
Wanna share your memories?
by Cannot think of a name » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:13 am
by Special Aromas » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:18 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:On the subject of buying a VIN plate.
by Auzkhia » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:41 pm
Petrolheadia wrote:One of the best ways to learn about history is to learn from those who have experienced it. And as I assume we all have working memories, why don't we teach each orher some history of cars?
I'll try to provide some of my memories of growing up in Puławy, Poland, in the 00s.
Wanna share your memories?
by East Fredonia » Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:00 am
Cannot think of a name wrote:Well, that's part of a larger problem in general where the younger generation is being priced out of f***ing everything and instead of addressing the mess they made the older generation is blaming it on f***ing avocado toast. But that's another thread.
by Petrolheadia » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:58 am
Petrolheadia wrote:One of the best ways to learn about history is to learn from those who have experienced it. And as I assume we all have working memories, why don't we teach each other some history of cars?
I'll try to provide some of my memories of growing up in Puławy, Poland, in the 00s.
-snip-
by Cannot think of a name » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:30 am
by Cannot think of a name » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:36 am
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