8values Political Test Thread #2

[Communist Zombie Horde]

I’m fascist. Not really surprised.
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=31.1&d=9.0&g=6.5&s=34.6

[Felamm]

Centrist.
I just took this test last week, so the results are up to date. Results

[Diarcesia]

https://8values.github.io/results.html? ... 8.5&s=63.2

[Thermodolia]

8values "Neo-liberalism" is basically the most nationalist and statist form of pure liberalism.




I've noticed most NSGers who get "centrist" are more right-leaning overall. Your results seem like those of a more pragmatic right-wing populist.

I suppose most "centrists" who are simultaneously self-described right-wingers are those who are, deep down, pretty centrist, but are brought together by a mutual hatred of the other side of the cultural strife - this being modern (insufferable) progressives.

I don't hide that one of my favourite politicians is Macron, at the moment. Not that I don't think Le Pen could have perhaps been a better choice. But if I was to choose between Trudeau and ebola..

I’ll take death over that

[Cekoviu]

Libertarian socialism. I consistently seem to match socialism on these tests, even though I'm a social democrat at best and don't like socialism.

[Collatis]

I switch between Libertarian Socialism and Social Libertarianism, but the differences in the scores are negligible.

[Thermodolia]

Libertarian socialism. I consistently seem to match socialism on these tests, even though I'm a social democrat at best and don't like socialism.

Ya I’m borderline on socialism yet I constantly get pegged as a hardline socialist. Hell 8values says I’m a revolutionary socialist.

[Lozcwngz]

Nothing to see here. Move along.

[Myfanwyski]

it gives me this

[Myfanwyski]

It would be interesting to see how similar world leaders like trump, kju and putin are

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[Ceolophysia]

Here's mine. Classical liberal, which is correct.
I used to be a Neoliberal, but according to the results, I am apparently getting less statist and also more progressive.

8values "Neo-liberalism" is basically the most nationalist and statist form of pure liberalism.

Yeah. I'm glad I'm getting less statist, but I think I am still pretty nationalist. I think getting more individualist overall has affected that score a bit, but a bit more than I would expect.

[Ceolophysia]

It would be interesting to see how similar world leaders like trump, kju and putin are

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Yeah, that would be interesting. I would guess Trump is Right-Wing Populist, Kim Jong Un is maybe National Totalitarianism, and I'm not sure about Putin, but maybe Christian Democracy.

[Cekoviu]

It would be interesting to see how similar world leaders like trump, kju and putin are

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Yeah, that would be interesting. I would guess Trump is Right-Wing Populist, Kim Jong Un is maybe National Totalitarianism, and I'm not sure about Putin, but maybe Christian Democracy.

Putin would probably be too authoritarian for Christian Democracy, tbh.

[Esmerel]

ok then here are my results

https://8values.github.io/results.html? ... 0.0&s=85.9

[Ceolophysia]

Yeah, that would be interesting. I would guess Trump is Right-Wing Populist, Kim Jong Un is maybe National Totalitarianism, and I'm not sure about Putin, but maybe Christian Democracy.

Putin would probably be too authoritarian for Christian Democracy, tbh.

That's why I wasn't sure. I don't know all of the possible ideologies. Whatever Christian Democracy + extra statism is, that's Putin.

[Nouveau Yathrib]

Putin would probably be too authoritarian for Christian Democracy, tbh.

That's why I wasn't sure. I don't know all of the possible ideologies. Whatever Christian Democracy + extra statism is, that's Putin.

List of all possible ideologies. Maybe "Theocratic Distributism"?

[Ceolophysia]

That's why I wasn't sure. I don't know all of the possible ideologies. Whatever Christian Democracy + extra statism is, that's Putin.

List of all possible ideologies. Maybe "Theocratic Distributism"?

Probably that, yes.

[North Curbstompia]

Got right wing populism.
More or less my views boil down to piss off, leave me alone, don't be a filthy degenerate, and stop pushing your sjw bullshit everywhere.

[New Emeline]

Got right wing populism.
More or less my views boil down to piss off, leave me alone, don't be a filthy degenerate, and stop pushing your sjw bullshit everywhere.

[Cekoviu]

Got right wing populism.
More or less my views boil down to piss off, leave me alone, don't be a filthy degenerate, and stop pushing your sjw bullshit everywhere.

This is the best meme

[New Emeline]

I'm a libertarian socialist, don't have the exact scoring on my right now.

[Ceolophysia]

Got right wing populism.
More or less my views boil down to piss off, leave me alone, don't be a filthy degenerate, and stop pushing your sjw bullshit everywhere.

Hold on, you want people to leave you alone, but other people shouldn't be degenerates. How does that work?

[New Emeline]

Got right wing populism.
More or less my views boil down to piss off, leave me alone, don't be a filthy degenerate, and stop pushing your sjw bullshit everywhere.

Hold on, you want people to leave you alone, but other people shouldn't be degenerates. How does that work?

the power of optimism

[Ceolophysia]

Hold on, you want people to leave you alone, but other people shouldn't be degenerates. How does that work?

the power of optimism

[Len Hyet]

I don't particularly like the 8values test because it emphasizes stated policy over ideological rationale, and doesn't really offer any opportunities for nuance.

Like, okay let's look at their list of questions.

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        "question": "The United Nations should be abolished.",
        "effect": {
            "econ": 0,
            "dipl": -10,
            "govt": -5,
            "scty": 0

Look at this one. Now, I don't think the UN should be abolished, but I don't think it's an effective way of maintaining global cooperation and diplomatic ties either. I think there's serious room for reform. But, because I don't think it's necessary to abolish it, I get a boost to globalism and authoritarianism.

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        "question": "Military action by our nation is often necessary to protect it.",
        "effect": {
            "econ": 0,
            "dipl": -10,
            "govt": -10,
            "scty": 0

What about this question. Do I think military action by our nation is often necessary to protect it? No, no I do not. Do I think it's sometimes necessary to protect it? Absolutely. So what do I choose? A soft agree or soft disagree? If I choose a soft agree for some reason I get a boost to authoritarianism again, and a soft disagree for some reason gives me a boost to libertarianism.

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"question": "It is important to maintain our national sovereignty.",
        "effect": {
            "econ": 0,
            "dipl": -10,
            "govt": -5,
            "scty": 0

Or this one. I don't think it's just important that we maintain our national sovereignty, I think it's important all nations maintain a level of sovereignty. I'm largely a proponent of noninterference except in cases of humanitarian crisis. But again, that increases authoritarianism. I don't want my government more authoritarian. I just want us to leave other countries alone.

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        "question": "Military spending is a waste of money.",
        "effect": {
            "econ": 0,
            "dipl": 10,
            "govt": 10,
            "scty": 0


I mean come on. Talk about a bullshit question. No, military spending isn't a waste of money. But there's certainly wasted money in military spending. So what do you choose for "The military's budget, while sufficient for it's current mission profile, suffers from excessive waste"?

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        "question": "The general populace makes poor decisions.",
        "effect": {
            "econ": 0,
            "dipl": 0,
            "govt": -10,
            "scty": 0

Absolutely. The general populace are idiots.

But they should be free to experience the consequences of their idiocy, by and large without governmental interference. And they certainly should have a say in the way government functions.

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        "question": "Government surveillance is necessary in the modern world.",
        "effect": {
            "econ": 0,
            "dipl": 0,
            "govt": -10,
            "scty": 0

Where's the "Yes, it's somewhat necessary, but absolutely needs to be tempered by oversight in the form of unrelated agencies performing audits, the requirement to obtain warrants before surveilling, and the absolute prohibition of mass surveillance" option?


I dunno. Maybe I'm reading into it too much. But my point basically is there's no nuance, and so I don't really like it.