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What denomination of Islam are you part of?

Sunni Islam
121
30%
Sunni Islam (Salafism)
16
4%
Shia Islam
29
7%
Quranist
9
2%
Ahmadiyya
4
1%
Zaydi
8
2%
Ibadist
4
1%
Sufism
22
6%
I do not ascribe to any sect, just call me a Muslim
68
17%
Other
118
30%
 
Total votes : 399

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United States of Oceania
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Postby United States of Oceania » Wed May 30, 2018 7:23 am

Aulus Maximus wrote:
United States of Oceania wrote:
My sig also says I am pro-Islam. Get your own conclusions, do your 2+2 man

Islam tells us to not be nationalist nor racist yet you do both.

You're telling in your sig you're against white people and therefore me as well as a white Muslim.


I'm not against Muslims, if you are Muslim I'm not against you.
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Postby United States of Oceania » Wed May 30, 2018 7:25 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:At least you admit Islam started it.


Satan and his followers started the War on Islam since the time of Prophet Adam.

The War between Islam and Kufr is an eternal war and it will only end on the Day of Judgement.
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Aulus Maximus
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Postby Aulus Maximus » Wed May 30, 2018 7:25 am

United States of Oceania wrote:
Aulus Maximus wrote:Islam tells us to not be nationalist nor racist yet you do both.

You're telling in your sig you're against white people and therefore me as well as a white Muslim.


I'm not against Muslims, if you are Muslim I'm not against you.

Then why are you against white people per definition according to your sig, and pro black people according to your sig?
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The Empire of Pretantia
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed May 30, 2018 7:26 am

United States of Oceania wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:At least you admit Islam started it.


Satan and his followers started the War on Islam since the time of Prophet Adam.

The War between Islam and Kufr is an eternal war and it will only end on the Day of Judgement.

Somebody needs to go to Bible Quran study sometime, Islam began with Muhammad's Revelation and not before.
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Postby United States of Oceania » Wed May 30, 2018 7:26 am

Aulus Maximus wrote:
United States of Oceania wrote:
I'm not against Muslims, if you are Muslim I'm not against you.

Then why are you against white people per definition according to your sig, and pro black people according to your sig?


I already explained why: because White People are the fiercest enemies of Islam and the proudest of their kufr.
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Postby United States of Oceania » Wed May 30, 2018 7:27 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
United States of Oceania wrote:
Satan and his followers started the War on Islam since the time of Prophet Adam.

The War between Islam and Kufr is an eternal war and it will only end on the Day of Judgement.

Somebody needs to go to Bible Quran study sometime, Islam began with Muhammad's Revelation and not before.


Wrong. Muhammad was the last Messenger. The first was Adam.
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Postby Gospel Power » Wed May 30, 2018 7:28 am

United States of Oceania wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:At least you admit Islam started it.


Satan and his followers started the War on Islam since the time of Prophet Adam.

The War between Islam and Kufr is an eternal war and it will only end on the Day of Judgement.

Kufr Hmm? And who were the first followers of god?
The jews and the Christians, we are the "book nations", so how we are infidels?
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Postby Aulus Maximus » Wed May 30, 2018 7:28 am

United States of Oceania wrote:
Aulus Maximus wrote:Then why are you against white people per definition according to your sig, and pro black people according to your sig?


I already explained why: because White People are the fiercest enemies of Islam and the proudest of their kufr.

That really makes no sense because then they would be unable to become Muslim.

Just delete it from your sig you're embarrassing me really. It's such a low quality meme and bait material it's unbelievable people still unironically use it in 2018.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed May 30, 2018 7:28 am

United States of Oceania wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Somebody needs to go to Bible Quran study sometime, Islam began with Muhammad's Revelation and not before.


Wrong. Muhammad was the last Messenger. The first was Adam.

You're mistaken, the problem was Adam didn't get the message.
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Every single square inch of Asia
Lewding Earth-chan
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Treading on me
Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, and all their cousins and sisters and brothers and wife's sons
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Zimbabwe
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Parodies of the Gadsden flag
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Postby United States of Oceania » Wed May 30, 2018 7:29 am

Gospel Power wrote:
United States of Oceania wrote:
Satan and his followers started the War on Islam since the time of Prophet Adam.

The War between Islam and Kufr is an eternal war and it will only end on the Day of Judgement.

Kufr Hmm? And who were the first followers of god?
The jews and the Christians, we are the "book nations", so how we are infidels?


You are so ignorant, at least go read up something about Islam before trying to get involved in a debate in an Islamic Discussion Thread.
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Postby Gospel Power » Wed May 30, 2018 7:30 am

United States of Oceania wrote:
Gospel Power wrote:Kufr Hmm? And who were the first followers of god?
The jews and the Christians, we are the "book nations", so how we are infidels?


You are so ignorant, at least go read up something about Islam before trying to get involved in a debate in an Islamic Discussion Thread.

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Reikoku
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Postby Reikoku » Wed May 30, 2018 7:31 am

United States of Oceania wrote:
Aulus Maximus wrote:Then why are you against white people per definition according to your sig, and pro black people according to your sig?


I already explained why: because White People are the fiercest enemies of Islam and the proudest of their kufr.


:lol2:

Generalizing an entire race of people is pretty silly, especially since Arabs are Caucasian and Islam historically spread into European land such as the Balkans.

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Postby United States of Oceania » Wed May 30, 2018 7:31 am

Aulus Maximus wrote:
United States of Oceania wrote:
I already explained why: because White People are the fiercest enemies of Islam and the proudest of their kufr.


Just delete it from your sig you're embarrassing me really. It's such a low quality meme and bait material it's unbelievable people still unironically use it in 2018.


I have the right to have my opinions, if you don't like it it's not my problem. You say you're not nationalist yet you get so easily offended whenever someone says something against Whites, uhmmm
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Postby Pilarcraft » Wed May 30, 2018 7:32 am

United States of Oceania wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:Friendly Reminder that the Muslims Started it First by invading Byzantium


The Christians themselves heavily weakened Byzantium in the Fourth Crusade, helping the Ottoman conquest. But there's nothing wrong with winning a war and conquering a city.
They attacked it in the First Caliphate, actually. You're half a millennia off the mark. And, well? if you start a war that you have no way to finish, you'd better stop moaning about casualties.
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Postby Aulus Maximus » Wed May 30, 2018 7:32 am

Gospel Power wrote:
United States of Oceania wrote:
Satan and his followers started the War on Islam since the time of Prophet Adam.

The War between Islam and Kufr is an eternal war and it will only end on the Day of Judgement.

Kufr Hmm? And who were the first followers of god?
The jews and the Christians, we are the "book nations", so how we are infidels?

kufr=/=infidel.

Kufr comes from k-f-r which means to cover ie to cover the truth ie Islam.

Are all Muslims non-kufr? No there is kufr done also by Muslims themselfs it's essentially anyone who says that some teachings of Muhammed saws is incorrect. For example if I say that according to Allah swt drinking wine is allowed then I commit kufr.

Yes, Jews and Christians are Ahlul Kitab, but that doesn't make people non-kufr. It means that if you deny that (some parts of) the teachings of Muhammed saw about God and his Law are incorrect then you're comitting kufr.
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Postby United States of Oceania » Wed May 30, 2018 7:32 am

Gospel Power wrote:
United States of Oceania wrote:
You are so ignorant, at least go read up something about Islam before trying to get involved in a debate in an Islamic Discussion Thread.

Islam will not prevail, one day we will push you back to your place


You are trying since more than 1000 years
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Postby Aulus Maximus » Wed May 30, 2018 7:34 am

United States of Oceania wrote:
Aulus Maximus wrote:
Just delete it from your sig you're embarrassing me really. It's such a low quality meme and bait material it's unbelievable people still unironically use it in 2018.


I have the right to have my opinions, if you don't like it it's not my problem. You say you're not nationalist yet you get so easily offended whenever someone says something against Whites, uhmmm

Yes, I'm no nationalist. I got no issues with Europeans, or Africans, or latin-Americans. I just have this notion you're an African American who uses Islam as a means to justify his anger towards white people. That's okay, it's not the first time and it wouldn't suprise me as you're a black nationalist as well. Just saying.
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Postby United States of Oceania » Wed May 30, 2018 7:34 am

Pilarcraft wrote:And, well? if you start a war that you have no way to finish, you'd better stop moaning about casualties.


What war are you talking about.
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Postby United States of Oceania » Wed May 30, 2018 7:35 am

Aulus Maximus wrote:
United States of Oceania wrote:
I have the right to have my opinions, if you don't like it it's not my problem. You say you're not nationalist yet you get so easily offended whenever someone says something against Whites, uhmmm

Yes, I'm no nationalist. I got no issues with Europeans, or Africans, or latin-Americans. I just have this notion you're an African American who uses Islam as a means to justify his anger towards white people. That's okay, it's not the first time and it wouldn't suprise me as you're a black nationalist as well. Just saying.


I'm not even African-American, I'm Iranian and I actually have a quite fair complexion, that's not the point. Stop the drama, it's sickening.
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Postby Aulus Maximus » Wed May 30, 2018 7:36 am

United States of Oceania wrote:
Aulus Maximus wrote:Yes, I'm no nationalist. I got no issues with Europeans, or Africans, or latin-Americans. I just have this notion you're an African American who uses Islam as a means to justify his anger towards white people. That's okay, it's not the first time and it wouldn't suprise me as you're a black nationalist as well. Just saying.


I'm not even African-American, I'm Iranian and I actually have a quite fair complexion, that's not the point. Stop the drama, it's sickening.

Again, I have the right to my opinion, remember.
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Pilarcraft
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Postby Pilarcraft » Wed May 30, 2018 7:36 am

United States of Oceania wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:And, well? if you start a war that you have no way to finish, you'd better stop moaning about casualties.


What war are you talking about.

The war on Humanity and Civilization that Islam started the moment it got out of its cocoon, of course. What made you think it ever stopped?
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Postby United States of Oceania » Wed May 30, 2018 7:37 am

Pilarcraft wrote:
United States of Oceania wrote:
What war are you talking about.

The war on Humanity and Civilization that Islam started the moment it got out of its cocoon, of course. What made you think it ever stopped?


Stop moaning about christian casualties then.
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Postby United States of Oceania » Wed May 30, 2018 7:37 am

Aulus Maximus wrote:
United States of Oceania wrote:
I'm not even African-American, I'm Iranian and I actually have a quite fair complexion, that's not the point. Stop the drama, it's sickening.

Again, I have the right to my opinion, remember.


Me too. You're not the only one.
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Postby Aulus Maximus » Wed May 30, 2018 7:39 am

United States of Oceania wrote:
Aulus Maximus wrote:Again, I have the right to my opinion, remember.


Me too. You're not the only one.

Show me where I deny that. Stop being defensive.
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Postby Western-Ukraine » Wed May 30, 2018 7:40 am

Islam isn't inherently anti-white. Not that I think anyone should follow its tenets, but it's a universal religion nowadays; Some people of white complexion adhere ardently to Islam while many people of black complexion heed fervently the Christian creed.
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