The Islamic Discussion Thread ٤: It's Always Sunni In Arabia

[Jolthig]

Yes, I'm aware some Muslim rulers did so. I am not denying this. What I reject, is the view that Muhammad did so.

I agree with Jolthig here. Modern Muslim leaders are corrupt and do not stand for the ideology they supposedly represent. These are the same politicians who encourage the usage of the burka, yet are fine with belly dancing, and sexual deviance, as long as it is for them, and only them.

True, as with the case of al-Qaeda, ISIS, and Taliban

[Genivaria]

Amin. So... you aren't against slavery?

I'm neutral on Islamic slavery. Other types of slavery, I'm against.

The only uncertainty I have on the issue of slavery is what form of execution should we use on slavers.
Bullet? Hanging? So many options.

[Genivaria]

I agree with Jolthig here. Modern Muslim leaders are corrupt and do not stand for the ideology they supposedly represent. These are the same politicians who encourage the usage of the burka, yet are fine with belly dancing, and sexual deviance, as long as it is for them, and only them.

True, as with the case of al-Qaeda, ISIS, and Taliban

Didn't al-Qaeda make money off of the drug trade?
Heroine right?

[Greater Cesnica]

I'm neutral on Islamic slavery. Other types of slavery, I'm against.

The only uncertainty I have on the issue of slavery is what form of execution should we use on slavers.
Bullet? Hanging? So many options.

If you go to my factbooks, you'll find I prefer a method called bolt-array table.

Clause IV: Hereby introduces the method of execution known as the bolt-array table. The condemned shall be strapped to a metal table encompassing a series of twelve electronically activated circular metal rods, measuring 3 inches in diameter. Upon an electronic switch being activated by the executioner, the metal rods will emerge from the table at a velocity of twelve inches in 0.000498 seconds. The rods will each impale and destroy critical organs such as the heart, lungs, spinal cord, brain, and sever the connection between the head and the torso by destroying all major tissue in the neck.

[Greater Cesnica]

True, as with the case of al-Qaeda, ISIS, and Taliban

Didn't al-Qaeda make money off of the drug trade?
Heroine right?

Heroin and Opium I believe.

[Aellex]

I'm neutral on Islamic slavery. Other types of slavery, I'm against.

The only uncertainty I have on the issue of slavery is what form of execution should we use on slavers.
Bullet? Hanging? So many options.

It's really a weird day when we're having to deal the black supremacist "AfriKan" that no, slavery isn't a good thing.
Really makes you wonder what was the fucking point for you Americans to have a war of secession over it.

[Jolthig]

True, as with the case of al-Qaeda, ISIS, and Taliban

Didn't al-Qaeda make money off of the drug trade?
Heroine right?

Probably. I wouldn't be surprised. They're literally muslim gangs

[Greater Cesnica]

The only uncertainty I have on the issue of slavery is what form of execution should we use on slavers.
Bullet? Hanging? So many options.

It's really a weird day when we're having to deal the black supremacist "AfriKan" that no, slavery isn't a good thing.
Really makes you wonder what was the fucking point for you Americans to have a war of secession over it.

I do notice he's gone quiet.


EDIT: sPOKE tO SOOn

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I'm neutral on Islamic slavery. Other types of slavery, I'm against.

What the fuck is wrong with you? So you condone Islamic slavery? Yeah, no, fuck that. This is 2018. We moved past these ideals a long time ago.

Current year argument is bad.

Not necessarily. I'm not pro nor anti Islamic slavery.

But you said you support everything in the Quran.

So you support Islamic slavery.

In that I don't really support it being banned, no. But the actual practice of it, I'm neutral.

What the fuck lol

This is your brain on religion - atrocities are virtuous if you paint them with the brush of your faith.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wic1CdJKufY, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4sVo_-j2THE, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pn1ubtoL95c, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h9d6sZJRNYQ

This is your brain on religion - atrocities are virtuous if you paint them with the brush of your faith.

Not all religious people are like this lol

This is your brain on religious extremism.

Following your religious text =/= religious extremism

[Mattopilos II]

What the fuck is wrong with you? So you condone Islamic slavery? Yeah, no, fuck that. This is 2018. We moved past these ideals a long time ago.

Current year argument is bad.

But you said you support everything in the Quran.

So you support Islamic slavery.

In that I don't really support it being banned, no. But the actual practice of it, I'm neutral.

This is your brain on religion - atrocities are virtuous if you paint them with the brush of your faith.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wic1CdJKufY, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4sVo_-j2THE, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pn1ubtoL95c, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h9d6sZJRNYQ

Not all religious people are like this lol

This is your brain on religious extremism.

Following your religious text =/= religious extremism

Following your religion is as shitty an excuse as “I was just following orders”.

[Negarakita]

I'm neutral on Islamic slavery. Other types of slavery, I'm against.

The only uncertainty I have on the issue of slavery is what form of execution should we use on slavers.
Bullet? Hanging? So many options.

e n s l a v e t h e s l a v e r s

[Greater Cesnica]

What the fuck is wrong with you? So you condone Islamic slavery? Yeah, no, fuck that. This is 2018. We moved past these ideals a long time ago.

Current year argument is bad.

But you said you support everything in the Quran.

So you support Islamic slavery.

In that I don't really support it being banned, no. But the actual practice of it, I'm neutral.

This is your brain on religion - atrocities are virtuous if you paint them with the brush of your faith.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wic1CdJKufY, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4sVo_-j2THE, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pn1ubtoL95c, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h9d6sZJRNYQ

Not all religious people are like this lol

This is your brain on religious extremism.

Following your religious text =/= religious extremism

Okay buddy. Go talk to me when your relatives are captured and raped, and then talk to me.

As for the religious extremism =/= following faith B.S, you just gave ammo to people who oppose Islam.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

The only uncertainty I have on the issue of slavery is what form of execution should we use on slavers.
Bullet? Hanging? So many options.

It's really a weird day when we're having to deal the black supremacist "AfriKan"

I left that a good amount of years ago.
Like, seriously, that was when I 1st joined the forum, and I didn't even say anything about black supremacy.

[Greater Cesnica]

Current year argument is bad.

In that I don't really support it being banned, no. But the actual practice of it, I'm neutral.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wic1CdJKufY, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4sVo_-j2THE, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pn1ubtoL95c, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h9d6sZJRNYQ

Following your religious text =/= religious extremism

Following your religion is as shitty an excuse as “I was just following orders”.

That's what the Nazis said.

[Washington Resistance Army]

There's plenty of times people were though.

Yes, I'm aware some Muslim rulers did so. I am not denying this. What I reject, is the view that Muhammad did so.

It's pretty telling how quickly Arabic polytheism died off when he took over lol. Sure I guess you could argue everyone just thought it was so convincing that they gave up their old beliefs but I find it hard to believe everyone did.

[Greater Cesnica]

It's really a weird day when we're having to deal the black supremacist "AfriKan"

I left that a good amount of years ago.
Like, seriously, that was when I 1st joined the forum, and I didn't even say anything about black supremacy.

And, is that supposed to redeem yourself? You LITERALLY DON'T WANT ISLAMIC SLAVERY TO BE BANNED.

[Mattopilos II]

Following your religion is as shitty an excuse as “I was just following orders”.

That's what the Nazis said.

That be the reference I was going for.

[Greater Cesnica]

That's what the Nazis said.

That be the reference I was going for.

Yee.

If you need some motivation, listen to Fall Out Boy- Centuries.

If that doesn't work, Coldplay- Atlas.

[Jolthig]

Yes, I'm aware some Muslim rulers did so. I am not denying this. What I reject, is the view that Muhammad did so.

It's pretty telling how quickly Arabic polytheism died off when he took over lol. Sure I guess you could argue everyone just thought it was so convincing that they gave up their old beliefs but I find it hard to believe everyone did.

Some may have fled the region, some chose on their own and Some pagans did convert for political reasons without being sincere. Still, no pagan was killed for being pagan.

[Mattopilos II]

It's pretty telling how quickly Arabic polytheism died off when he took over lol. Sure I guess you could argue everyone just thought it was so convincing that they gave up their old beliefs but I find it hard to believe everyone did.

Some may have fled the region, some chose on their own and Some pagans did convert for political reasons without being sincere. Still, no pagan was killed for being pagan.

*presses x to doubt until button is broken*

[Greater Cesnica]

It's pretty telling how quickly Arabic polytheism died off when he took over lol. Sure I guess you could argue everyone just thought it was so convincing that they gave up their old beliefs but I find it hard to believe everyone did.

Some may have fled the region, some chose on their own and Some pagans did convert for political reasons without being sincere. Still, no pagan was killed for being pagan.

Can I have a Jolthig at my local masjid? Thanks!

[Greater Cesnica]

Some may have fled the region, some chose on their own and Some pagans did convert for political reasons without being sincere. Still, no pagan was killed for being pagan.

*presses x to doubt until button is broken*

He means not by Muhammad's men or Muhammad.

[Mattopilos II]

*presses x to doubt until button is broken*

He means not by Muhammad's men or Muhammad.

Still pressing x.

[Greater Cesnica]

He means not by Muhammad's men or Muhammad.

Still pressing x.

*sighs*

You're supposed to do L1+R1+Triangle (x3)

[Genivaria]

Some may have fled the region, some chose on their own and Some pagans did convert for political reasons without being sincere. Still, no pagan was killed for being pagan.

*presses x to doubt until button is broken*

While I am the first to criticize Islam when the criticism is warranted this is not one of those cases.
Islam's early treatment of non-Muslims was...fair for its day.

The Arab conquerors did not repeat the mistake made by the Byzantine and Sasanian empires, who had tried and failed to impose an official religion on subject populations, which had caused resentments that made the Muslim conquests more acceptable to them.[165] Instead, the rulers of the new empire generally respected the traditional middle-Eastern pattern of religious pluralism, which was not one of equality but rather of dominance by one group over the others.[165] After the end of military operations, which involved sacking of some monasteries and confiscation of Zoroastrian fire temples in Syria and Iraq, the early caliphate was characterized by religious tolerance and peoples of all ethnicities and religions blended in public life.[166] Before Muslims were ready to build mosques in Syria, they accepted Christian churches as holy places and shared them with local Christians.[147] In Iraq and Egypt, Muslim authorities cooperated with Christian religious leaders.[147] Numerous churches were repaired and new ones built during the Umayyad era.[167]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Mus ... on-Muslims