The Islamic Discussion Thread ٤: It's Always Sunni In Arabia

[Frievolk]

200,000 left. Only 20,000-50,000 within Iran.

Aren't the numbers growing in Iran though? I swear I heard something like that.

Strictly Legally speaking, that's not true. Because for that, you'd have to convert from Shia, and that would mean you would be executed for Muharibah (literally under the Hodud in Iranian Punitive law) but yeah. Zoroastrianism, or at the very least appreciation of Zoroastrian aesthetic, alongside other traditionally Persian Nationalist stuff, has seen a rise in Iran, especially ever since the events of last December.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Aren't the numbers growing in Iran though? I swear I heard something like that.

The number of Iranians sympathetic to Zoroastrianism or whatever is growing, yeah. As for the number of actual believers, I couldn't tell you.

Maybe if they ever start accepting converts in meaningful numbers the religion could be in a healthier spot. It'd be a damn shame if it ever died off.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

I rest my case.
(And yeah, it's even worse than I originally thought)

where does Islam say kill Zoroastrians?

Where did he say that? He said Muslims had committed a genocide against Zoroastrians.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

The number of Iranians sympathetic to Zoroastrianism or whatever is growing, yeah. As for the number of actual believers, I couldn't tell you.

Maybe if they ever start accepting converts in meaningful numbers the religion could be in a healthier spot. It'd be a damn shame if it ever died off.

Tbh, the only Zoroastrian group that doesn't really accept converts is the Parsis. Every other Zoroastrian I've met has been perfectly accepting of me.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

Someday, I'd like to meet up with some Zoroastrians. Maybe Sah

So long as you promise not to take over any fire temples and make me pay jizya, sure

[Jolthig]

Someday, I'd like to meet up with some Zoroastrians. Maybe Sah

So long as you promise not to take over any fire temples and make me pay jizya, sure

Lol no. That is not the Ahmadiyya way

[Kubumba Tribe]

Someday, I'd like to meet up with some Zoroastrians. Maybe Sah

So long as you promise not to take over any fire temples and make me pay jizya, sure

You'd have to if you live in an Islamic nation.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

So long as you promise not to take over any fire temples and make me pay jizya, sure

You'd have to if you live in an Islamic nation.

No one asked you, Amin.

[Frievolk]

You'd have to if you live in an Islamic nation.

No one asked you, Amin.

(I got HIMYM Flashbacks when I read this, IDK why)

[Washington Resistance Army]

Maybe if they ever start accepting converts in meaningful numbers the religion could be in a healthier spot. It'd be a damn shame if it ever died off.

Tbh, the only Zoroastrian group that doesn't really accept converts is the Parsis. Every other Zoroastrian I've met has been perfectly accepting of me.

I wish we had more Zoroastrians on NSG tbh, I'd love to have an active discussion thread on it just cuz it's such a fascinating religion. Plus it would be interesting to have some perspectives on religion in general from a really ancient one that managed, if only barely, to avoid being wiped out by the Abrahamic faiths.

[Kubumba Tribe]

You'd have to if you live in an Islamic nation.

No one asked you, Amin.

You have to be disrespectful, bruv.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

So long as you promise not to take over any fire temples and make me pay jizya, sure

Lol no. That is not the Ahmadiyya way

Love and peace, amirite? I've always had an appreciation for the Ahmadis. Especially when I was Nizari. Us "kuffar" have to stick together, right?

[Sahansahiye Iran]

No one asked you, Amin.

You have to be disrespectful, bruv.

I mean, you're the one who injected yourself into a conversation that had literally nothing to do with you. Who's really the disrespectful one?

[Frievolk]

Tbh, the only Zoroastrian group that doesn't really accept converts is the Parsis. Every other Zoroastrian I've met has been perfectly accepting of me.

I wish we had more Zoroastrians on NSG tbh, I'd love to have an active discussion thread on it just cuz it's such a fascinating religion. Plus it would be interesting to have some perspectives on religion in general from a really ancient one that managed, if only barely, to avoid being wiped out by the Abrahamic faiths.

It is an exception in that, isn't it? Most pre-Abrahamic religions that see a surge of popularity have to redo everything (because whatever was left was burned by the Christians and Muslims on their long-ass conquests) and then here the Zoroastrians are, with their Atashkadehs all relatively intact.

[Kubumba Tribe]

You have to be disrespectful, bruv.

I mean, you're the one who injected yourself into a conversation that had literally nothing to do with you. Who's really the disrespectful one?

I'd still say "you".

[Sahansahiye Iran]

Tbh, the only Zoroastrian group that doesn't really accept converts is the Parsis. Every other Zoroastrian I've met has been perfectly accepting of me.

I wish we had more Zoroastrians on NSG tbh, I'd love to have an active discussion thread on it just cuz it's such a fascinating religion. Plus it would be interesting to have some perspectives on religion in general from a really ancient one that managed, if only barely, to avoid being wiped out by the Abrahamic faiths.

I'm fairly sure I'm the only active Zoroastrian on NSG lol. It is a shame. I know several on Discord but they're not on NS.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

I mean, you're the one who injected yourself into a conversation that had literally nothing to do with you. Who's really the disrespectful one?

I'd still say "you".

Mkay. Maybe mind your own business, eh? I know that's hard for you.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

I wish we had more Zoroastrians on NSG tbh, I'd love to have an active discussion thread on it just cuz it's such a fascinating religion. Plus it would be interesting to have some perspectives on religion in general from a really ancient one that managed, if only barely, to avoid being wiped out by the Abrahamic faiths.

It is an exception in that, isn't it? Most pre-Abrahamic religions that see a surge of popularity have to redo everything (because whatever was left was burned by the Christians and Muslims on their long-ass conquests) and then here the Zoroastrians are, with their Atashkadehs all relatively intact.

Yeah, it's always been interesting to me. You've got neo-Hellenics, neo-Sumerians, and the various other neo- groups. The only ones that have really much stood up to it are Zoroastrianism and the various Native American faiths.

[Jolthig]

Lol no. That is not the Ahmadiyya way

Love and peace, amirite? I've always had an appreciation for the Ahmadis. Especially when I was Nizari. Us "kuffar" have to stick together, right?

You know it.

I'd still say "you".

Mkay. Maybe mind your own business, eh? I know that's hard for you.

Honestly, that is kinda hard for people on NSG. Especially since it's an open debate forum. Sure, maybe what Amin said was unnecessary since your reply was to me only, but still, since NSG is open, anyone can reply, even if disrespectful.

[Kubumba Tribe]

I'd still say "you".

Mkay. Maybe mind your own business, eh? I know that's hard for you.

Again, be respectful please.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

Love and peace, amirite? I've always had an appreciation for the Ahmadis. Especially when I was Nizari. Us "kuffar" have to stick together, right?

You know it.

Mkay. Maybe mind your own business, eh? I know that's hard for you.

Honestly, that is kinda hard for people on NSG. Especially since it's an open debate forum. Sure, maybe what Amin said was unnecessary since your reply was to me only, but still, since NSG is open, anyone can reply, even if disrespectful.

Oh, I know, he can still reply. Just kind of amusingly hypocritical for someone to jump into banter between friends and then rant about how I need to be respectful.

[Frievolk]

Mkay. Maybe mind your own business, eh? I know that's hard for you.

Again, be respectful please.

This is just like when the Nazi tells the Jew "be respectful" after telling him he belongs in the oven.
And no, this is in no way a poor example.

[Kubumba Tribe]

You know it.


Honestly, that is kinda hard for people on NSG. Especially since it's an open debate forum. Sure, maybe what Amin said was unnecessary since your reply was to me only, but still, since NSG is open, anyone can reply, even if disrespectful.

Oh, I know, he can still reply. Just kind of amusingly hypocritical for someone to jump into banter between friends and then rant about how I need to be respectful.

What rant?

[Washington Resistance Army]

It is an exception in that, isn't it? Most pre-Abrahamic religions that see a surge of popularity have to redo everything (because whatever was left was burned by the Christians and Muslims on their long-ass conquests) and then here the Zoroastrians are, with their Atashkadehs all relatively intact.

Yeah, it's always been interesting to me. You've got neo-Hellenics, neo-Sumerians, and the various other neo- groups. The only ones that have really much stood up to it are Zoroastrianism and the various Native American faiths.

Us Hellenists are at least in a good spot because the old form of the religion was so thoroughly documented and impactful on western civilization that we know how almost everything went except the exact inner workings of the (aptly named) mystery cults and such things.

I also associate with some near eastern neo-Sumerian pagans and it's my understanding that even they have a pretty good basis for putting everything back together because the religion existed from the dawn of civilization up until the Muslims invaded and occupied Mesopotamia so they have thousands of years worth of stuff to draw from.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

Yeah, it's always been interesting to me. You've got neo-Hellenics, neo-Sumerians, and the various other neo- groups. The only ones that have really much stood up to it are Zoroastrianism and the various Native American faiths.

Us Hellenists are at least in a good spot because the old form of the religion was so thoroughly documented and impactful on western civilization that we know how almost everything went except the exact inner workings of the (aptly named) mystery cults and such things.

I also associate with some near eastern neo-Sumerian pagans and it's my understanding that even they have a pretty good basis for putting everything back together because the religion existed from the dawn of civilization up until the Muslims invaded and occupied Mesopotamia so they have thousands of years worth of stuff to draw from.

Of course. I'm not disparaging your beliefs or anything, WRA <3 I learned a bunch about them when I was in this pagan server. It was pretty neat. Everything from Chinese to Nahua polytheism.