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What denomination of Islam are you part of?

Sunni Islam
121
30%
Sunni Islam (Salafism)
16
4%
Shia Islam
29
7%
Quranist
9
2%
Ahmadiyya
4
1%
Zaydi
8
2%
Ibadist
4
1%
Sufism
22
6%
I do not ascribe to any sect, just call me a Muslim
68
17%
Other
118
30%
 
Total votes : 399

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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:21 pm

Jolthig wrote:Correct. They're some khalifa claimants that say Mirza Masroor Ahmad isn't the true khalifa but they themselves are, and some say that Mirza Bashirideen Mahmood Ahmad, who was the second khalifa of the AMC, say he wasn't the Promised reformer, but they themselves are.


I also regularly listen to your Internet radio station, Voice of Islam.
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Postby Jolthig » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:23 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Correct. They're some khalifa claimants that say Mirza Masroor Ahmad isn't the true khalifa but they themselves are, and some say that Mirza Bashirideen Mahmood Ahmad, who was the second khalifa of the AMC, say he wasn't the Promised reformer, but they themselves are.


I also regularly listen to your Internet radio station, Voice of Islam.

Nice. I should listen to it as well lol

Otherwise I mostly listen to MTA International when I set some time for it. They got interesting material
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Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:24 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Correct. They're some khalifa claimants that say Mirza Masroor Ahmad isn't the true khalifa but they themselves are, and some say that Mirza Bashirideen Mahmood Ahmad, who was the second khalifa of the AMC, say he wasn't the Promised reformer, but they themselves are.


I also regularly listen to your Internet radio station, Voice of Islam.

Jolthig has a radio station?
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Postby Jolthig » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:26 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
I also regularly listen to your Internet radio station, Voice of Islam.

Jolthig has a radio station?

No he means an Ahmadi radio station program. I don't run it.
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

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Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:33 pm

Jolthig wrote:Nice. I should listen to it as well lol

Otherwise I mostly listen to MTA International when I set some time for it. They got interesting material


It is British. However, even though I am an American, I am an Anglophile, so I like listening to it.
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Postby Jolthig » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:41 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Nice. I should listen to it as well lol

Otherwise I mostly listen to MTA International when I set some time for it. They got interesting material


It is British. However, even though I am an American, I am an Anglophile, so I like listening to it.

You'll probably love this then: I personally seen the core studio of MTA when I visited London in May 2017 to meet Mirza Masroor Ahmad
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:33 pm

Jolthig wrote:You'll probably love this then: I personally seen the core studio of MTA when I visited London in May 2017 to meet Mirza Masroor Ahmad


I have been to London many times. It is my favorite international city. Perhaps I will visit during my next trip.
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Postby Jolthig » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:41 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Jolthig wrote:You'll probably love this then: I personally seen the core studio of MTA when I visited London in May 2017 to meet Mirza Masroor Ahmad


I have been to London many times. It is my favorite international city. Perhaps I will visit during my next trip.

Nice. Very beautiful countryside too. Not much different than the countryside here in Wisconsin other than different trees.
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:39 am

Jolthig wrote:Nice. Very beautiful countryside too. Not much different than the countryside here in Wisconsin other than different trees.


Yep. On another topic. Although I am not an Ahmadi, I have always been concerned over the persecution Ahmadis have experienced in Pakistan. Is the situation any better?
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Postby Jolthig » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:04 am

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Nice. Very beautiful countryside too. Not much different than the countryside here in Wisconsin other than different trees.


Yep. On another topic. Although I am not an Ahmadi, I have always been concerned over the persecution Ahmadis have experienced in Pakistan. Is the situation any better?

Not really. Though the new administration of Imran Khan did include an Ahmadi in his economic group to assist him.
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby Jolthig » Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:55 am

Amin, are you and I literally the only Muslims active on here? Aulus is semi active. The community seems quiet or almost dead. :P
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:32 pm

Jolthig wrote:Amin, are you and I literally the only Muslims active on here? Aulus is semi active. The community seems quiet or almost dead. :P

That's what I've been wondering too. Where is everybody?
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:53 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Amin, are you and I literally the only Muslims active on here? Aulus is semi active. The community seems quiet or almost dead. :P

That's what I've been wondering too. Where is everybody?

They've all apostasized. Join the club :)
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:07 pm

Jolthig wrote:Not really. Though the new administration of Imran Khan did include an Ahmadi in his economic group to assist him.


I guess that is why the headquarters are in India, unless I am mistaken.
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Postby Jolthig » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:20 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Not really. Though the new administration of Imran Khan did include an Ahmadi in his economic group to assist him.


I guess that is why the headquarters are in India, unless I am mistaken.

The headquarters are in the UK :)

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:That's what I've been wondering too. Where is everybody?

They've all apostasized. Join the club :)

No thanks. I'm all good :3
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Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:24 pm

Jolthig wrote:The headquarters are in the UK :)


I am probably thinking of the Lahore group. Too bad that there hasn't been some reconciliation between the organizations.
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Postby Jolthig » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:26 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Jolthig wrote:The headquarters are in the UK :)


I am probably thinking of the Lahore group. Too bad that there hasn't been some reconciliation between the organizations.

Yeah, the Lahoris believe in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, but don't believe him to be a prophet, but a saint. While we, the Qadianis, also believe that he was a saint, he did eventually become a prophet.

Also it was because of the arrogance of their elders and agism against the second Khalifa that they split away back in 1914.
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:38 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
I am probably thinking of the Lahore group. Too bad that there hasn't been some reconciliation between the organizations.

Yeah, the Lahoris believe in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, but don't believe him to be a prophet, but a saint.

Really?
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Postby Jolthig » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:03 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Yeah, the Lahoris believe in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, but don't believe him to be a prophet, but a saint.

Really?

Yup. I read a little on their site. I also have their translation of the Quran by Maulana Mohammad Ali.
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:07 pm

Jolthig wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Really?

Yup. I read a little on their site. I also have their translation of the Quran by Maulana Mohammad Ali.

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This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:45 pm

Jolthig wrote:Yeah, the Lahoris believe in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, but don't believe him to be a prophet, but a saint. While we, the Qadianis, also believe that he was a saint, he did eventually become a prophet.


As I understand it, the Lahoris accept him as mahdi but not as a prophet.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:32 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Amin, are you and I literally the only Muslims active on here? Aulus is semi active. The community seems quiet or almost dead. :P

That's what I've been wondering too. Where is everybody?

Assalamualaikum.
I'm busy here, trying to adjust to my new college life :p
Others might be busy too, I have no idea.
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Postby Jolthig » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:32 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Yeah, the Lahoris believe in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, but don't believe him to be a prophet, but a saint. While we, the Qadianis, also believe that he was a saint, he did eventually become a prophet.


As I understand it, the Lahoris accept him as mahdi but not as a prophet.

They accept him as Messiah as well but yes
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Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

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Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:35 pm

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:That's what I've been wondering too. Where is everybody?

Assalamualaikum.
I'm busy here, trying to adjust to my new college life :p
Others might be busy too, I have no idea.

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Postby Jolthig » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:31 pm

Samudera Darussalam wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:That's what I've been wondering too. Where is everybody?

Assalamualaikum.
I'm busy here, trying to adjust to my new college life :p
Others might be busy too, I have no idea.

Walakium salaam. Glad you're still with us

What course you taking
Devoted Ahmadi Muslim • theistic evolutionist • Star Wars fan • Discord ID: Jolthig#9602
Grenartia wrote:Then we Marshall Plan it.

Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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