The Islamic Discussion Thread ٤: It's Always Sunni In Arabia

[Jolthig]

Ah, taqiyya.

I'm starting to be convinced you are Khaity, and not a legitimate Shiite tbh. I've been pretty convinced for a while you aren't legitimate. Because I myself have done that in the past. I'm pretty sure you are Khaity. Otherwise why would Khaity suddenly come out of nowhere when you post?

Why is your founding date only Feb. 18?

Why would I post the stuff he is posting? He is posting stuff that Allah will see and ask me about the day of judgement and it is nothing but slander and blaspheme.

Because you both have the same grammar.

Wanna know another reason why I think you two are the same? Because I've also done it. You've all remember al-Zalaam from last November? Yeah. You have create the Shiite version of him. I applaud you.

[Khataiy]

Why would I post the stuff he is posting? He is posting stuff that Allah will see and ask me about the day of judgement and it is nothing but slander and blaspheme.

Because you both have the same grammar.

Wanna know another reason why I think you two are the same? Because I've also done it. You've all remember al-Zalaam from last November? Yeah. You have create the Shiite version of him. I applaud you.

I am not him do not associate me with him or the stuff he posts I am here solely to defend the honor of the companions.

[Jolthig]

Because you both have the same grammar.

Wanna know another reason why I think you two are the same? Because I've also done it. You've all remember al-Zalaam from last November? Yeah. You have create the Shiite version of him. I applaud you.

I am not him do not associate me with him or the stuff he posts I am here solely to defend the honor of the companions.

Why isnt he posting then? He should've posted by now.

[Khataiy]

I am not him do not associate me with him or the stuff he posts I am here solely to defend the honor of the companions.

Why isnt he posting then? He should've posted by now.

I do not know as I am not him

[Jolthig]

Why isnt he posting then? He should've posted by now.

I do not know as I am not him

He stopped posting as soon as I said you two may be one, and the same.

[The Husseini State]

This is the face of the Wahhabiyya fighting one another because they cannot stand the truth

[Khataiy]

This is the face of the Wahhabiyya fighting one another because they cannot stand the truth

"Wahhabiya" is this all you can say?

[Jolthig]

Why isnt he posting then? He should've posted by now.

I do not know as I am not him

This is the face of the Wahhabiyya fighting one another because they cannot stand the truth

Ah that beautiful grammar. Not putting periods in their sentences. :3

Gotcha.

[The Husseini State]

I do not know as I am not him

This is the face of the Wahhabiyya fighting one another because they cannot stand the truth

Ah that beautiful grammar. Not putting periods in their sentences. :3

Gotcha.

I am not the Wahhabi

[Jolthig]

Ah that beautiful grammar. Not putting periods in their sentences. :3

Gotcha.

I am not the Wahhabi

Don't care.

Peace, brotha.

[Khataiy]

Ah that beautiful grammar. Not putting periods in their sentences. :3

Gotcha.

I am not the Wahhabi

Everything you claim to hate about the "Wahhabis" is what you stand for

[The Husseini State]

I am not the Wahhabi

Everything you claim to hate about the "Wahhabis" is what you stand for

The Shia do not hold an atom's weight of the Wahhabi crimes.

[Khataiy]

Everything you claim to hate about the "Wahhabis" is what you stand for

The Shia do not hold an atom's weight of the Wahhabi crimes.

May Allah guide you

[The Grims]

I do not know as I am not him

He stopped posting as soon as I said you two may be one, and the same.

You do know there are only 7 different people using these forums?

Period behind sentence.

[Jolthig]

He stopped posting as soon as I said you two may be one, and the same.

You do know there are only 7 different people using these forums?

Period behind sentence.

You should probably look at the entire conversation then.

[North German Realm]

He stopped posting as soon as I said you two may be one, and the same.

You do know there are only 7 different people using these forums?

Period behind sentence.

Yeah, but if I gave you a convo from Me, Jolthig, Amin, and Alsheb, you could probably guess "these guys aren't the same people" even ignoring the points of view. Compare Khataiy and The Husseini State's posts (without taking the sectarianism in). They're much more alike than, say, Jolthig and Sah's.

[The Grims]

You do know there are only 7 different people using these forums?

Period behind sentence.

You should probably look at the entire conversation then.

No,I agree with your conclusion.
But also take it further.

[Jolthig]

You should probably look at the entire conversation then.

No,I agree with your conclusion.
But also take it further.

Which I did.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

And you are wrong. Anyone who recites kalima, and believes in Allah is God and Muhammad (saw) is His Messenger is automatically Muslim.

Yes Ali (ra) was a true caliph, but so was Abu Bakr (ra). That doesn't make Zizou a disbelievers. And yes, you are a Takfiri if you pass takfir. You are literally declaring him a disbeliever because you said he supports Abu Bakr.

As for the rest of your claims, this hadith debunks these:

Abu Bakr had no right to usurp the title of Khilafah from Ali (P) and Ahlul Bayt the crimes of Umar, Abu Bakr and Aisha are undeniable they were total oppressors and enemies of Islam. Part of the Kalima is declaring Ali is the Wali of Allah and declaring the authority of the Imams and the superiorty of Ahlul Bayt only then can you be a Muslim, and quoting a Sunni Hadith does not help you.

You still haven't proven anything.

in fact some ancient Shia sects would praise the Khariji who murdered Ali (RA) saying he enabled Ali (RA) to enter Jannah and gave him martyrdom.

Prove it.

And like the Khawarij the Shias are united against Ahlus Sunnah and call for the conquest of our land and the murder of our people

Prove that Shi'as call for this.

Jafar As-Sadiq you claim as one of the Imams in your Imamah and he is from the blood of Abu Bakr and a student of Abu Hanfia, the Great Imam, and he said it in his books that the Shia are not Muslims.

Prove it.

No it is not the kalima.

And yes it does help me because it goes back to the Sunnah of Muhammad (saw), and in turn, the Quran. This makes your argument invalid.

The rest of what you said is nonsense that's already been refuted.

You must accept the Wilayah of Ali and the Imams to be a Muslim.

Prove it.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

Literally the worst he did was exile the Christians and Jews from Medina for their continued conspiracies to murder him, and Muslims.

Or slaughter them, like Banu Qurayza.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

And I see that y'all boys are getting spicy. Shia extremist and Sunni extremist? *grabs popcorn*

[Jolthig]

Literally the worst he did was exile the Christians and Jews from Medina for their continued conspiracies to murder him, and Muslims.

Or slaughter them, like Banu Qurayza.

No, that wasn't the ruling of Muhammad himself, but a companion of his, whom he allowed to do their ruling, considering he was an ally of the Banu Qurayza. And it was justified, considering the conditions of Arabia at the time. Not to mention, this was their own Torah being used on them for their treachery. Their own beliefs being used on them.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

Or slaughter them, like Banu Qurayza.

No, that wasn't the ruling of Muhammad himself, but a companion of his, whom he allowed to do their ruling, considering he was an ally of the Banu Qurayza. And it was justified, considering the conditions of Arabia at the time. Not to mention, this was their own Torah being used on them for their treachery. Their own beliefs being used on them.

And? He still controlled the army and permitted it to happen. He's not not complicit in that.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

So, does Islam dislike fiction like LOTR because it "glorifies" a fictional all-powerful god?

Depends on the Muslim you ask, idk the official ruling on it.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

So, does Islam dislike fiction like LOTR because it "glorifies" a fictional all-powerful god?

Depends on the Muslim you ask, idk the official ruling on it.

How about you?