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What denomination of Islam are you part of?

Sunni Islam
121
30%
Sunni Islam (Salafism)
16
4%
Shia Islam
29
7%
Quranist
9
2%
Ahmadiyya
4
1%
Zaydi
8
2%
Ibadist
4
1%
Sufism
22
6%
I do not ascribe to any sect, just call me a Muslim
68
17%
Other
118
30%
 
Total votes : 399

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Postby The Husseini State » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:13 am

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The Husseini State wrote:Allah knows best who he is he may be hidden but he is guiding us

Makes perfect sense.

Why do you have the Magian symbol on your flag? Iran has been blessed as a fortress of 'Ilm and faith even with its various oppressors like the Shah and Khamenei but no one can deny it is the stronghold of the Shia Muslims there is no reason to look back to the days of ignorance it would be like me having a picture of uzza in my flag.

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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:15 am

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Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Makes perfect sense.

Why do you have the Magian symbol on your flag? Iran has been blessed as a fortress of 'Ilm and faith even with its various oppressors like the Shah and Khamenei but no one can deny it is the stronghold of the Shia Muslims there is no reason to look back to the days of ignorance it would be like me having a picture of uzza in my flag.

Maybe it's because I'm a "Magian"? Give my sig a look, dudamus.
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Postby The Husseini State » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:16 am

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
The Husseini State wrote:Why do you have the Magian symbol on your flag? Iran has been blessed as a fortress of 'Ilm and faith even with its various oppressors like the Shah and Khamenei but no one can deny it is the stronghold of the Shia Muslims there is no reason to look back to the days of ignorance it would be like me having a picture of uzza in my flag.

Maybe it's because I'm a "Magian"? Give my sig a look, dudamus.

But you support the Isamili sect have you left Islam?

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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:18 am

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Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Maybe it's because I'm a "Magian"? Give my sig a look, dudamus.

But you support the Isamili sect have you left Islam?

Mhmm.
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Postby The Husseini State » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:19 am

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The Husseini State wrote:But you support the Isamili sect have you left Islam?

Mhmm.

Are you an Iranian? You should know Khamenei has betrayed the Islamic Revolution he is like the Dajjal and that only adherence to the Quran, Hadiths and knowledgeable Marja will keep you on the boat of faith

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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:21 am

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Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Mhmm.

Are you an Iranian? You should know Khamenei has betrayed the Islamic Revolution he is like the Dajjal and that only adherence to the Quran, Hadiths and knowledgeable Marja will keep you on the boat of faith

I mean, I honestly don't give a fuck what Khamenei is like in the Islamic viewpoint lol. I don't need that to know that he's a piece of shit.
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Postby The Husseini State » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:22 am

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The Husseini State wrote:Are you an Iranian? You should know Khamenei has betrayed the Islamic Revolution he is like the Dajjal and that only adherence to the Quran, Hadiths and knowledgeable Marja will keep you on the boat of faith

I mean, I honestly don't give a fuck what Khamenei is like in the Islamic viewpoint lol. I don't need that to know that he's a piece of shit.

Then why have you left Islam

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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:26 am

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Sahansahiye Iran wrote:I mean, I honestly don't give a fuck what Khamenei is like in the Islamic viewpoint lol. I don't need that to know that he's a piece of shit.

Then why have you left Islam

Because I do not think the Quran is the word of God, I think Muhammad was not an adequate moral example to follow today, I find the hostility within Islam to be disgusting, etc.
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Postby The Husseini State » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:28 am

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
The Husseini State wrote:Then why have you left Islam

Because I do not think the Quran is the word of God, I think Muhammad was not an adequate moral example to follow today, I find the hostility within Islam to be disgusting, etc.

I recommend the works of Ayatollah Sayid Sadiq Husseini Al-Shirazi you will be guided of that is what Allah wills

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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:30 am

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Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Because I do not think the Quran is the word of God, I think Muhammad was not an adequate moral example to follow today, I find the hostility within Islam to be disgusting, etc.

I recommend the works of Ayatollah Sayid Sadiq Husseini Al-Shirazi you will be guided of that is what Allah wills

I doubt it.
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Postby The Husseini State » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:32 am

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
The Husseini State wrote:I recommend the works of Ayatollah Sayid Sadiq Husseini Al-Shirazi you will be guided of that is what Allah wills

I doubt it.

Khamenei's sins are a stain on Islam and you have most likely been exposed to this filth but research the works of Sayid Sadiq and his late brother Mohammad al-Husseini Al-Shirazi

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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:34 am

The Husseini State wrote:
Sahansahiye Iran wrote:I doubt it.

Khamenei's sins are a stain on Islam and you have most likely been exposed to this filth but research the works of Sayid Sadiq and his late brother Mohammad al-Husseini Al-Shirazi

I mean, I have. And I still think its shit lol. Just because they're less shit doesn't make them not still shit.
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Postby The Husseini State » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:36 am

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
The Husseini State wrote:Khamenei's sins are a stain on Islam and you have most likely been exposed to this filth but research the works of Sayid Sadiq and his late brother Mohammad al-Husseini Al-Shirazi

I mean, I have. And I still think its shit lol. Just because they're less shit doesn't make them not still shit.

How could you use such degenerate language when dealing with the greatest of Marja, the greatest of Marja the ones who maintain the legacy of the Imamah the guardians of the Quran and the Wilayat of Ali

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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:38 am

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Sahansahiye Iran wrote:I mean, I have. And I still think its shit lol. Just because they're less shit doesn't make them not still shit.

How could you use such degenerate language when dealing with the greatest of Marja, the greatest of Marja the ones who maintain the legacy of the Imamah the guardians of the Quran and the Wilayat of Ali

I'm sorry. I'll rephrase: "I mean, I have. And I still think it's feces lol. Just because they're less feces doesn't make them not still feces."

Point is: no.
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Postby The Husseini State » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:38 am

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
The Husseini State wrote:How could you use such degenerate language when dealing with the greatest of Marja, the greatest of Marja the ones who maintain the legacy of the Imamah the guardians of the Quran and the Wilayat of Ali

I'm sorry. I'll rephrase: "I mean, I have. And I still think it's feces lol. Just because they're less feces doesn't make them not still feces."

Point is: no.

What objections could you have towards the teaching of Ayatollah Shirazi?

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Postby Zizou » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:39 am

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Dahyan wrote:Western style government is a generally a terrible idea in any Third World country.

More about the Zaydi Islamic school of thought:

Why are you spreading this sect? The Zaydiyyah are like the Nasibi Bakris and revere Abu Bakr and we know his crimes my brother if you wish to follow the the path of the Party of Ali you should study the Hadiths and the Quran its all there the teachings of the Zadiyyah are very corrupt and only create division among our blessed religion we are the followers of Muhammad (P) and we walk the path of the Shuhada that died at Karbala for the sake of Allah out of their love for Ahlul Bayt.

You understand that blatantly calling an entire sect corrupted also contributes to fitnah, right?
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:39 am

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Sahansahiye Iran wrote:I'm sorry. I'll rephrase: "I mean, I have. And I still think it's feces lol. Just because they're less feces doesn't make them not still feces."

Point is: no.

What objections could you have towards the teaching of Ayatollah Shirazi?

He's preaches Islam. And Twelver Islam at that. Full stop.
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Postby The Husseini State » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:42 am

Zizou wrote:
The Husseini State wrote:More about the Zaydi Islamic school of thought:

Why are you spreading this sect? The Zaydiyyah are like the Nasibi Bakris and revere Abu Bakr and we know his crimes my brother if you wish to follow the the path of the Party of Ali you should study the Hadiths and the Quran its all there the teachings of the Zadiyyah are very corrupt and only create division among our blessed religion we are the followers of Muhammad (P) and we walk the path of the Shuhada that died at Karbala for the sake of Allah out of their love for Ahlul Bayt.

You understand that blatantly calling an entire sect corrupted also contributes to fitnah, right?

"And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah. And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do." This is from the Quran anyone who declares their love for Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Aisha, Hafsa, Khalid Ibn al-Waleed and the other Nasibis are on a corrupt path of disbelief in the religion of Islam.

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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:44 am

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Zizou wrote:You understand that blatantly calling an entire sect corrupted also contributes to fitnah, right?

"And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah. And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do." This is from the Quran anyone who declares their love for Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Aisha, Hafsa, Khalid Ibn al-Waleed and the other Nasibis are on a corrupt path of disbelief in the religion of Islam.

Again, mate, can you cool it with the "nasibi" stuff? It's possible to make your argument without resorting to petty slurs and insults.
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Postby The Husseini State » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:46 am

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
The Husseini State wrote:"And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah. And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do." This is from the Quran anyone who declares their love for Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Aisha, Hafsa, Khalid Ibn al-Waleed and the other Nasibis are on a corrupt path of disbelief in the religion of Islam.

Again, mate, can you cool with the "nasibi" stuff? It's possible to make your argument without resorting to petty slurs and insults.

It is well known Umar and Abu Bakr hated Ali (P) the one chosen by Allah.

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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:46 am

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Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Again, mate, can you cool with the "nasibi" stuff? It's possible to make your argument without resorting to petty slurs and insults.

It is well known Umar and Abu Bakr hated Ali (P) the one chosen by Allah.

Yeah but there are other ways to make that point.
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Postby The Husseini State » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:47 am

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
The Husseini State wrote:It is well known Umar and Abu Bakr hated Ali (P) the one chosen by Allah.

Yeah but there are other ways to make that point.

I only call them what the blessed Marja have called them

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Postby Zizou » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:49 am

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Zizou wrote:You understand that blatantly calling an entire sect corrupted also contributes to fitnah, right?

"And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah. And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do." This is from the Quran anyone who declares their love for Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Aisha, Hafsa, Khalid Ibn al-Waleed and the other Nasibis are on a corrupt path of disbelief in the religion of Islam.

The only situation I could see causing fitnah regarding all this would be if one were to worship said figures.
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:49 am

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Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Yeah but there are other ways to make that point.

I only call them what the blessed Marja have called them

Alright, dudamus. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Postby The Husseini State » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:50 am

Zizou wrote:
The Husseini State wrote:"And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah. And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do." This is from the Quran anyone who declares their love for Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Aisha, Hafsa, Khalid Ibn al-Waleed and the other Nasibis are on a corrupt path of disbelief in the religion of Islam.

The only situation I could see causing fitnah regarding all this would be if one were to worship said figures.

I could argue that their followers do worship them much like the way the Wahhabis claim we worship the Imams

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