The Islamic Discussion Thread ٤: It's Always Sunni In Arabia

[Zizou]

The only situation I could see causing fitnah regarding all this would be if one were to worship said figures.

I could argue that their followers do worship them much like the way the Wahhabis claim we worship the Imams

No one (to my knowledge anyways) is elevating these people to the status that Allah (SWT) holds, but are simply giving them rightfully deserved respect.

[The Husseini State]

I could argue that their followers do worship them much like the way the Wahhabis claim we worship the Imams

No one (to my knowledge anyways) is elevating these people to the status that Allah (SWT) holds, but are simply giving them rightfully deserved respect.

Murdering the Prophet (P) and holding a conflict with Ali (P) and the events of Fadak are things a Muslim who obeys Allah should respect?

[Sahansahiye Iran]

No one (to my knowledge anyways) is elevating these people to the status that Allah (SWT) holds, but are simply giving them rightfully deserved respect.

Murdering the Prophet (P)

*eyes roll out of my head*

As much as I prefer Shia Islam over Sunni Islam, this might be the most ridiculous bit. Muhammad was 62 years old in Arabia in 632. Is it really so hard to accept he died of natural causes than his wife poisoned him?

[Kowani]

You understand that blatantly calling an entire sect corrupted also contributes to fitnah, right?

"And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah. And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do." This is from the Quran anyone who declares their love for Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Aisha, Hafsa, Khalid Ibn al-Waleed and the other Nasibis are on a corrupt path of disbelief in the religion of Islam.

And yet you use the flag of ISIS in a non-RP way. See no hypocrisy...

[The Husseini State]

Murdering the Prophet (P)

*eyes roll out of my head*

As much as I prefer Shia Islam over Sunni Islam, this might be the most ridiculous bit. Muhammad was 62 years old in Arabia in 632. Is it really so hard to accept he died of natural causes than his wife poisoned him?

There is sound evidence for this Aisha murdered Muhammad (P) out of her jealousy

[Sahansahiye Iran]

*eyes roll out of my head*

As much as I prefer Shia Islam over Sunni Islam, this might be the most ridiculous bit. Muhammad was 62 years old in Arabia in 632. Is it really so hard to accept he died of natural causes than his wife poisoned him?

There is sound evidence for this Aisha murdered Muhammad (P) out of her jealousy

Like?

[Zizou]

No one (to my knowledge anyways) is elevating these people to the status that Allah (SWT) holds, but are simply giving them rightfully deserved respect.

Murdering the Prophet (P) and holding a conflict with Ali (P) and the events of Fadak are things a Muslim who obeys Allah should respect?

Muhammad (S) was not murdered, he died naturally. I disagree with the decision to lead the charge, and fadak was a disagreement over public and private property.

[The Husseini State]

"And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah. And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do." This is from the Quran anyone who declares their love for Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Aisha, Hafsa, Khalid Ibn al-Waleed and the other Nasibis are on a corrupt path of disbelief in the religion of Islam.

And yet you use the flag of ISIS in a non-RP way. See no hypocrisy...

The Da'esh Wahhabi "Islamic" State does not own this flag and it belongs to Muslims and I wish to free this sacred flag from their evil

[The Husseini State]

There is sound evidence for this Aisha murdered Muhammad (P) out of her jealousy

Like?

There are many accounts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcanMfPgGWE

[Kowani]

And yet you use the flag of ISIS in a non-RP way. See no hypocrisy...

The Da'esh Wahhabi "Islamic" State does not own this flag and it belongs to Muslims and I wish to free this sacred flag from their evil

That’s not how flags work.

[The Husseini State]

The Da'esh Wahhabi "Islamic" State does not own this flag and it belongs to Muslims and I wish to free this sacred flag from their evil

That’s not how flags work.

I do not want or need your permission nor did I ask for it this is the flag of Islam and Muslims they have no right to it

[Sahansahiye Iran]

Like?

There are many accounts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcanMfPgGWE

Jesus, dude. What is up with y'all and bloody YouTube videos?

Do you have an article or something that I can read in 5 minutes instead of a bloody half hour long video titled "Aisha - Mother of Murderers" (I'm sure that's not at all biased or would ever lie)?

[The Husseini State]

There are many accounts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcanMfPgGWE

Jesus, dude. What is up with y'all and bloody YouTube videos?

Do you have an article or something that I can read in 5 minutes instead of a bloody half hour long video titled "Aisha - Mother of Murderers" (I'm sure that's not at all biased or would ever lie)?

Sheikh Yassir Habib elaborates it beautifully if you do not wish to be educated on this matter then there is nothing much I can do to help you

[Zizou]

That’s not how flags work.

I do not want or need your permission nor did I ask for it this is the flag of Islam and Muslims they have no right to it

ISIS has no right to claim the flag as their own, but it's probably better that you ditch the flag to avoid the connotation it's taken.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

Jesus, dude. What is up with y'all and bloody YouTube videos?

Do you have an article or something that I can read in 5 minutes instead of a bloody half hour long video titled "Aisha - Mother of Murderers" (I'm sure that's not at all biased or would ever lie)?

Sheikh Yassir Habib elaborates it beautifully if you do not wish to be educated on this matter then there is nothing much I can do to help you

So, I'll take it that you don't have an unbiased, factual source? Coolio.

[Kowani]

That’s not how flags work.

I do not want or need your permission nor did I ask for it this is the flag of Islam and Muslims they have no right to it

Okay. Breakdown time. A flag represents something. However, what it represents is public consensus and intention of the user. It is a symbol, with an agreed upon meaning. Regardless of what the original meaning may have been, at this point it is the flag of ISIS, just because they are the most prolific users, with a clearly defined agenda. To the British, their Union Jack represents patriotism. If you ask a Nigerian what he sees in the Union Jack, you’ll probably hear something about tyranny, death, thievery, etc. It is not just what you represent, but also how you are seen. And you are seen, with the flag of ISIS.

[The Husseini State]

I do not want or need your permission nor did I ask for it this is the flag of Islam and Muslims they have no right to it

ISIS has no right to claim the flag as their own, but it's probably better that you ditch the flag to avoid the connotation it's taken.

What connotation? I do not want disbelievers to be applauding my actions that means something is wrong the Quran has sharp verses regarding this and we should not seek their satisfaction so if they hate Da'esh because they represent a strong Islam then by all means I am proud to have this flag as a Shi'i of Hussein because this is what he stood for, for Islam to be strong and for the family of the Prophet to be respected and empowered and this flag represents that and it is tragic that the Wahhabis have claim to this banner as they are the enemies of the Prophet and his household.

[Kowani]

ISIS has no right to claim the flag as their own, but it's probably better that you ditch the flag to avoid the connotation it's taken.

What connotation? I do not want disbelievers to be applauding my actions that means something is wrong the Quran has sharp verses regarding this and we should not seek their satisfaction so if they hate Da'esh because they represent a strong Islam then by all means I am proud to have this flag as a Shi'i of Hussein because this is what he stood for, for Islam to be strong and for the family of the Prophet to be respected and empowered and this flag represents that and it is tragic that the Wahhabis have claim to this banner as they are the enemies of the Prophet and his household.

Nobody hates ISIS because the represent a “Strong Islam”, they hate them because they kill people.

[The Husseini State]

What connotation? I do not want disbelievers to be applauding my actions that means something is wrong the Quran has sharp verses regarding this and we should not seek their satisfaction so if they hate Da'esh because they represent a strong Islam then by all means I am proud to have this flag as a Shi'i of Hussein because this is what he stood for, for Islam to be strong and for the family of the Prophet to be respected and empowered and this flag represents that and it is tragic that the Wahhabis have claim to this banner as they are the enemies of the Prophet and his household.

Nobody hates ISIS because the represent a “Strong Islam”, they hate them because they kill people.

I have already explained I will not remove the banner of Islam because it offends you that would be a sin

[Zizou]

ISIS has no right to claim the flag as their own, but it's probably better that you ditch the flag to avoid the connotation it's taken.

What connotation? I do not want disbelievers to be applauding my actions that means something is wrong the Quran has sharp verses regarding this and we should not seek their satisfaction so if they hate Da'esh because they represent a strong Islam then by all means I am proud to have this flag as a Shi'i of Hussein because this is what he stood for, for Islam to be strong and for the family of the Prophet to be respected and empowered and this flag represents that and it is tragic that the Wahhabis have claim to this banner as they are the enemies of the Prophet and his household.

No one wants you to change the flag because it represents "a strong Islam," but because the flag you're using is also used by a group of murderers, terrorists, rapists, and just overall horrible people. We don't need to unnecessarily cause controversy over something as trivial as a flag.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

Nobody hates ISIS because the represent a “Strong Islam”, they hate them because they kill people.

I have already explained I will not remove the banner of Islam because it offends you that would be a sin

Zizou is Muslim and is telling you the same.

[The Husseini State]

What connotation? I do not want disbelievers to be applauding my actions that means something is wrong the Quran has sharp verses regarding this and we should not seek their satisfaction so if they hate Da'esh because they represent a strong Islam then by all means I am proud to have this flag as a Shi'i of Hussein because this is what he stood for, for Islam to be strong and for the family of the Prophet to be respected and empowered and this flag represents that and it is tragic that the Wahhabis have claim to this banner as they are the enemies of the Prophet and his household.

No one wants you to change the flag because it represents "a strong Islam," but because the flag you're using is also used by a group of murderers, terrorists, rapists, and just overall horrible people. We don't need to unnecessarily cause controversy over something as trivial as a flag.

The stigma needs to change we need to clean the image of this flag

[The Husseini State]

I have already explained I will not remove the banner of Islam because it offends you that would be a sin

Zizou is Muslim and is telling you the same.

He is a supporter of Abu Bakr

[Kowani]

Nobody hates ISIS because the represent a “Strong Islam”, they hate them because they kill people.

I have already explained I will not remove the banner of Islam because it offends you that would be a sin

See, this is why people don’t like Fundamentalists.

Also, is that actually a sin.

[The Husseini State]

I have already explained I will not remove the banner of Islam because it offends you that would be a sin

See, this is why people don’t like Fundamentalists.

Also, is that actually a sin.

To please a disbeliever over a religious matter yes it is