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What denomination of Islam are you part of?

Sunni Islam
121
30%
Sunni Islam (Salafism)
16
4%
Shia Islam
29
7%
Quranist
9
2%
Ahmadiyya
4
1%
Zaydi
8
2%
Ibadist
4
1%
Sufism
22
6%
I do not ascribe to any sect, just call me a Muslim
68
17%
Other
118
30%
 
Total votes : 399

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Postby Jolthig » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:25 pm

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
Jolthig wrote:pakistsni

Wow. I've never heard of this ethnicity. TIL :P

...

True. Indian and Pakistani are actually, technically the same.

Or if we wanna get deeper, Punjabis from Kashmir

Unless if you're getting me for my spelling lol

I mistyped
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Postby Zizou » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:25 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:Odd note on Pakistan:

It's technically the most powerful muslim nation minus maybe Turkey.


That feels weird.

To be honest, I kinda wish Pakistan wasn't partitioned in the first place. Ghandi and Jinnah were right.
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:26 pm

Zizou wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Odd note on Pakistan:

It's technically the most powerful muslim nation minus maybe Turkey.


That feels weird.

To be honest, I kinda wish Pakistan wasn't partitioned in the first place. Ghandi and Jinnah were right.

Indeed. I dont think Pakistan would have its problems today if it didnt split from india.
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:26 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:Odd note on Pakistan:

It's technically the most powerful muslim nation minus maybe Turkey.


That feels weird.

Well..considering that they have nukes. That is scary.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:26 pm

Zizou wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Odd note on Pakistan:

It's technically the most powerful muslim nation minus maybe Turkey.


That feels weird.

To be honest, I kinda wish Pakistan wasn't partitioned in the first place. Ghandi and Jinnah were right.

Somehow, I doubt a united India/Pakistan was going to hold.
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:27 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Wow. I've never heard of this ethnicity. TIL :P

...

True. Indian and Pakistani are actually, technically the same.

Or if we wanna get deeper, Punjabis from Kashmir

Unless if you're getting me for my spelling lol

I mistyped

I was making fun of your spelling but okay. :P
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Postby Zizou » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:27 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Zizou wrote:To be honest, I kinda wish Pakistan wasn't partitioned in the first place. Ghandi and Jinnah were right.

Indeed. I dont think Pakistan would have its problems today if it didnt split from india.

If they didn't split, India wouldn't have become dominated by the BJP
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:28 pm

A unified India and Pakistan just was never going to happen, tbh.
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:29 pm

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
Jolthig wrote:...

True. Indian and Pakistani are actually, technically the same.

Or if we wanna get deeper, Punjabis from Kashmir

Unless if you're getting me for my spelling lol

I mistyped

I was making fun of your spelling but okay. :P

Yeah, I just realized it by looking at my spelling. Haha

You've always got me on that kind of stuff, Khosro, and you know me, how I always awkwardly react. Lol
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:30 pm

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:A unified India and Pakistan just was never going to happen, tbh.

I suppose but still. Muslims and Hindus did get along with one another for a while. At least in the 19th to 20th centuries before 1947
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:32 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Sahansahiye Iran wrote:A unified India and Pakistan just was never going to happen, tbh.

I suppose but still. Muslims and Hindus did get along with one another for a while. At least in the 19th to 20th centuries before 1947

Eh.

Getting along is used very loosely here, tbh. More like the British largely kept them at peace.
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:33 pm

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
Jolthig wrote:I suppose but still. Muslims and Hindus did get along with one another for a while. At least in the 19th to 20th centuries before 1947

Eh.

Getting along is used very loosely here, tbh. More like the British largely kept them at peace.

Yeah. Then, everything went downhill after.
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:34 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Eh.

Getting along is used very loosely here, tbh. More like the British largely kept them at peace.

Yeah. Then, everything went downhill after.

Are you saying the British should have continued occupying India? *munches popcorn*
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:35 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Well..considering that they have nukes. That is scary.


Yep.

WW3 will cause a wild card between those two that could end all humanity.

Zizou wrote:To be honest, I kinda wish Pakistan wasn't partitioned in the first place. Ghandi and Jinnah were right.

Same.

Plus, we could have had a cooler Indian look.

India's map today looks...bleh...

Yup.

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Yeah. Then, everything went downhill after.

Are you saying the British should have continued occupying India? *munches popcorn*

No, but now that I think about it, they would've been better off. They should've became the Canada of Asia.

After all, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, the founder of my community told muslims not to fight the British when he was alive.
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Postby Frievolk » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:07 pm

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Yeah. Then, everything went downhill after.

Are you saying the British should have continued occupying India? *munches popcorn*

It would have been a better idea than to partition it in such a retarded way just to screw with the Indians.
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Postby Zizou » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:11 pm

Frievolk wrote:
Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Are you saying the British should have continued occupying India? *munches popcorn*

It would have been a better idea than to partition it in such a retarded way just to screw with the Indians.

Should've just split the country diagonally smh
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Postby Frievolk » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:12 pm

Zizou wrote:
Frievolk wrote:It would have been a better idea than to partition it in such a retarded way just to screw with the Indians.

Should've just split the country diagonally smh

... Or just not partition it and instead influence it into becoming your puppet in all the ways that matter after it gets independent, like the French did with all of their African dominions. (Of course, the very existence of Pakistan is because they wanted to cut off Communist China from getting to The Persian Oil, but regardless)
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:26 pm

Frievolk wrote:
Zizou wrote:Should've just split the country diagonally smh

... Or just not partition it and instead influence it into becoming your puppet in all the ways that matter after it gets independent, like the French did with all of their African dominions. (Of course, the very existence of Pakistan is because they wanted to cut off Communist China from getting to The Persian Oil, but regardless)

Iromically Pakistan and China have been great allies against India and the USSR.
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Postby Frievolk » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:28 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Frievolk wrote:... Or just not partition it and instead influence it into becoming your puppet in all the ways that matter after it gets independent, like the French did with all of their African dominions. (Of course, the very existence of Pakistan is because they wanted to cut off Communist China from getting to The Persian Oil, but regardless)

Iromically Pakistan and China have been great allies against India and the USSR.

Yeah, but since when has British Foreign Policy made any sort of sense?
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:36 pm

Frievolk wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Iromically Pakistan and China have been great allies against India and the USSR.

Yeah, but since when has British Foreign Policy made any sort of sense?

It did because without it, we wouldn't have any english tea, Frievolk. Right? :rofl:
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:39 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Jolthig wrote:It did because without it, we wouldn't have any english tea, Frievolk. Right? :rofl:

British Foreign Policy in a nutshell:

Beat up China and piss off the French, occasionally prevent the Germans from conquering Europe, flip off the Russians at every opportunity.

Yes, lad.
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Postby Frievolk » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:41 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Frievolk wrote:Yeah, but since when has British Foreign Policy made any sort of sense?

It did because without it, we wouldn't have any english tea, Frievolk. Right? :rofl:

That's not foreign policy, that's military and economic policy (Colonial Expansion isn't "foreign policy" where diplomacy is concerned lol). Their foreign policy (as in, who to ally with diplomatically, how to deal with rising threats, etc.) makes zero sense. They're inconsistent, and often the worst choice possible. their policies are made by a guy saying "Yeah, this is gonna be so efficient" while he pushes ground chalk into his AC.
The only reason they continued to be a great power is because up until recently nobody could touch them, and they had a pretty large navy.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:41 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Jolthig wrote:It did because without it, we wouldn't have any english tea, Frievolk. Right? :rofl:

British Foreign Policy in a nutshell:

Beat up China and piss off the French, occasionally prevent the Germans from conquering Europe, flip off the Russians at every opportunity.

You forgot about stealing all the spices, then deciding you don’t like any, and going home to burnt Shepherd’s Pie.
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:43 pm

Frievolk wrote:
Jolthig wrote:It did because without it, we wouldn't have any english tea, Frievolk. Right? :rofl:

That's not foreign policy, that's military and economic policy (Colonial Expansion isn't "foreign policy" where diplomacy is concerned lol). Their foreign policy (as in, who to ally with diplomatically, how to deal with rising threats, etc.) makes zero sense. They're inconsistent, and often the worst choice possible. their policies are made by a guy saying "Yeah, this is gonna be so efficient" while he pushes ground chalk into his AC.
The only reason they continued to be a great power is because up until recently nobody could touch them, and they had a pretty large navy.

Yeah, they always had a bizarre foreign policy. *ahem* the stamp act
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Postby Byzconia » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:45 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Frievolk wrote:That's not foreign policy, that's military and economic policy (Colonial Expansion isn't "foreign policy" where diplomacy is concerned lol). Their foreign policy (as in, who to ally with diplomatically, how to deal with rising threats, etc.) makes zero sense. They're inconsistent, and often the worst choice possible. their policies are made by a guy saying "Yeah, this is gonna be so efficient" while he pushes ground chalk into his AC.
The only reason they continued to be a great power is because up until recently nobody could touch them, and they had a pretty large navy.

Yeah, they always had a bizarre foreign policy. *ahem* the stamp act

The Stamp Act was a tax--hence, not foreign policy lol.
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