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What denomination of Islam are you part of?

Sunni Islam
121
30%
Sunni Islam (Salafism)
16
4%
Shia Islam
29
7%
Quranist
9
2%
Ahmadiyya
4
1%
Zaydi
8
2%
Ibadist
4
1%
Sufism
22
6%
I do not ascribe to any sect, just call me a Muslim
68
17%
Other
118
30%
 
Total votes : 399

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Postby Negarakita » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:27 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Sahansahiye Iran wrote:He's been around for a while, yeah. He was around when I was still Muslim. Bhikku is the guy with the penguin flag :P

Ah okay

I used to be Bhikkustan, and have been on the thread for quite a while now.
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Washington Resistance Army wrote:what the fuck are you guys even arguing about lol

Idk man lol

But I do know cats are amazing animals

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Postby Jolthig » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:28 pm

Negarakita wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Ah okay

I used to be Bhikkustan, and have been on the thread for quite a while now.
Jolthig wrote:Idk man lol

But I do know cats are amazing animals

Wrong

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:29 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:what the fuck are you guys even arguing about lol

Idk man lol

But I do know cats are amazing animals


Proof that the Ahmadiyya are the best Muslims :p
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Negarakita
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Postby Negarakita » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:29 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Negarakita wrote:I used to be Bhikkustan, and have been on the thread for quite a while now.

Wrong

Fight me

I got attacked by a feral cat when I was younger, so have low key aliurophobia. Fluffy lazy ones are cute tho.
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Sahansahiye Iran
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:29 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:what the fuck are you guys even arguing about lol

Just giving Amin a quick English lesson. Carry one, citizen :P
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Postby New haven america » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:30 pm

Negarakita wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Fight me

I got attacked by a feral cat when I was younger, so have low key aliurophobia. Fluffy lazy ones are cute tho.

So did I, still had at least 1 cat at any given time for 16 straight years.
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:30 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Idk man lol

But I do know cats are amazing animals


Proof that the Ahmadiyya are the best Muslims :p

Why thank you. :p

Negarakita wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Fight me

I got attacked by a feral cat when I was younger, so have low key aliurophobia. Fluffy lazy ones are cute tho.

I see. Well not all cats are friendly. Lol
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:31 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Idk man lol

But I do know cats are amazing animals


Proof that the Ahmadiyya are the best Muslims :p

Technically, all Muslims are supposed to be pro-cats. Muhammad loved them.
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Postby Negarakita » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:31 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Idk man lol

But I do know cats are amazing animals


Proof that the Ahmadiyya are the best Muslims :p

Tbh loving of cats is a Muslim thing, like it's sunnah to do so.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:32 pm

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Proof that the Ahmadiyya are the best Muslims :p

Technically, all Muslims are supposed to be pro-cats. Muhammad loved them.


Huh, TIL.
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:33 pm

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Postby Jolthig » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:33 pm

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Proof that the Ahmadiyya are the best Muslims :p

Technically, all Muslims are supposed to be pro-cats. Muhammad loved them.

Correct
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:35 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Technically, all Muslims are supposed to be pro-cats. Muhammad loved them.

Correct

I don't need your affirmation, Jol!

:P
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:35 pm

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Correct

I don't need your affirmation, Jol!

:P

Yes you do because my cats do.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:37 pm

Cats are effing awesome. I moved to a new house recently and now I can't see that neighborhood cat that would always come over :(
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Postby The Grims » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:56 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Grims wrote:
If humans are so flawed they consistently show themselves to be unable to adhere to "true" Islam, and if such partial adherence tends to worsen instead of improve conditions and if that has bern holding true for 1500 years... does that not make Islam a failure or at least useless in practice ?

Muslims' disobedience does not mean that Al-Islam has failed.


What does it mean then if a system has failed to achieve positive results for many centuries with no sign of improvement ?

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Postby Kowani » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:00 pm

The Grims wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Muslims' disobedience does not mean that Al-Islam has failed.


What does it mean then if a system has failed to achieve positive results for many centuries with no sign of improvement ?

A shitty system.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:05 pm

The Grims wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Muslims' disobedience does not mean that Al-Islam has failed.


What does it mean then if a system has failed to achieve positive results for many centuries with no sign of improvement ?

That's assuming the system failed.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:10 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Grims wrote:
What does it mean then if a system has failed to achieve positive results for many centuries with no sign of improvement ?

That's assuming the system failed.

>Looks at countries with large Muslim communities.
Yes, your sandy hellholes might not be The DRC, but most of them still suck to live in for the majority of people.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:19 pm

Kowani wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:That's assuming the system failed.

>Looks at countries with large Muslim communities.
Yes, your sandy hellholes might not be The DRC, but most of them still suck to live in for the majority of people.

I know.
What I don't know is why people keep pointing out the Middle East as it that's the only place Muslims come from.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:39 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kowani wrote:>Looks at countries with large Muslim communities.
Yes, your sandy hellholes might not be The DRC, but most of them still suck to live in for the majority of people.

I know.
What I don't know is why people keep pointing out the Middle East as it that's the only place Muslims come from.

Gee, IDK, maybe because that's where the religion started and where most of its worshipers live (Along with North Africa and Central Asia, which all happen to be right next to it...)?
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:39 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kowani wrote:>Looks at countries with large Muslim communities.
Yes, your sandy hellholes might not be The DRC, but most of them still suck to live in for the majority of people.

I know.
What I don't know is why people keep pointing out the Middle East as it that's the only place Muslims come from.

Lol you act like Somalia, Libya, Afghanistan, large parts of Pakistan, North Sudan, Eritrea, Moro Philippines, Niger, Chad, Mali, northern Nigeria, etc. are better places to be.
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Postby The Grims » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:45 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Grims wrote:
What does it mean then if a system has failed to achieve positive results for many centuries with no sign of improvement ?

That's assuming the system failed.


You yourself state that the Ummah does not properly adhere to it (and implied that that is the reason bad things still happen) But convincing people to adhere to it IS a requirement of the system.If it fails to do so, it fails.

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Postby Frievolk » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:26 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kowani wrote:>Looks at countries with large Muslim communities.
Yes, your sandy hellholes might not be The DRC, but most of them still suck to live in for the majority of people.

I know.
What I don't know is why people keep pointing out the Middle East as it that's the only place Muslims come from.
It's the best place they come from (apart from Indonesia, of course, but we're not talking about that)
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Postby Jolthig » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:38 pm

Frievolk wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I know.
What I don't know is why people keep pointing out the Middle East as it that's the only place Muslims come from.
It's the best place they come from (apart from Indonesia, of course, but we're not talking about that)

You missed out on a big party earlier lol
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