The Benefit of Slavery

[Hurdergaryp]

It would save a metric shitload in taxes, that will help everyone

If other people lose jobs because of that, the cost of welfare and lower tax income is added.

That does not help anybody.

It apparently does when you live in an alternate reality where the world simply stopped progressing after the American Revolution. You wouldn't believe how strong the French monarchy is still going! And have you heard about the latest misunderstanding between the various Italian city-states? Hilarity ensues!

[The Parkus Empire]

It would save a metric shitload in taxes, that will help everyone

If other people lose jobs because of that, the cost of welfare and lower tax income is added.

That does not help anybody.

There is a shortage of plantation labor, so presumably no jobs would be lost

[Hurdergaryp]

If other people lose jobs because of that, the cost of welfare and lower tax income is added.

That does not help anybody.

There is a shortage of plantation labor, so presumably no jobs would be lost

Let's drink a mint julep to that!

[Ceolophysia]

If other people lose jobs because of that, the cost of welfare and lower tax income is added.

That does not help anybody.

There is a shortage of plantation labor, so presumably no jobs would be lost

Shortage is not the same as none. The jobs that are left would likely be lost, because a business would not logically hire someone for money if they could just use prisoners.

[The Parkus Empire]

There is a shortage of plantation labor, so presumably no jobs would be lost

Shortage is not the same as none. The jobs that are left would likely be lost, because a business would not logically hire someone for money if they could just use prisoners.

That's not necessarily the case, as it presumes all the labor would be prison labor. That's an extremely risky investment, whereas hired labor is not risky at all, because you pay for it in increments and you can fire it

[The Parkus Empire]

There is a shortage of plantation labor, so presumably no jobs would be lost

Let's drink a mint julep to that!

No, sir. Mint juleps are racist and drinking one makes you racist

[Paversos]

Repeatedly I have heard that we have a labor shortage on our plantations here in the United States, and that we therefore need to important more immigrants. But I have an alternative, which is slavery. Specifically the enslaving of convicts. For those sentenced to life in prison or death, this is very straightforward: simply sell them to plantations. This saves a lot of money right there, in fact sale should recoup a lot of the court cost. Now as for those doing shorter terms, I propose a period of indentured servitude instead. Contracts for indentured convicts also would save or even make a lot of money. Also I am a strong believer in hard work's power to reform. Much better than shooting up drugs in a cell.

So, what do you say, NSG? Sounds good? It's 100% Constitutional.

Are you serious? You’re talking about selling human beings.... how would you like to be sold?

[Kramanica]

Parkus why do you want to travel back the late 1800s? First you want to bring back poll taxes and now you literally want to resurrect slavery.

Normally I don't call people racist during debates... but you arent making it easy.

And I'm pretty sure I've heard you before calling the modern right immoral. Yet your morality apparently justifies poll taxes and slavery.

[Ifreann]

Repeatedly I have heard that we have a labor shortage on our plantations here in the United States, and that we therefore need to important more immigrants. But I have an alternative, which is slavery. Specifically the enslaving of convicts. For those sentenced to life in prison or death, this is very straightforward: simply sell them to plantations. This saves a lot of money right there, in fact sale should recoup a lot of the court cost. Now as for those doing shorter terms, I propose a period of indentured servitude instead. Contracts for indentured convicts also would save or even make a lot of money. Also I am a strong believer in hard work's power to reform. Much better than shooting up drugs in a cell.

So, what do you say, NSG? Sounds good? It's 100% Constitutional.

Are you serious? You’re talking about selling human beings.... how would you like to be sold?

As a criminal he would obviously welcome being sold, knowing that every lash of his master's whip was bringing him closer to being properly civilised.

[San Lumen]

Parkus why do you want to travel back the late 1800s? First you want to bring back poll taxes and now you literally want to resurrect slavery.

Normally I don't call people racist during debates... but you arent making it easy.

And I'm pretty sure I've heard you before calling the modern right immoral. Yet your morality apparently justifies poll taxes and slavery.

you and I agree on something not to mention slavery is allowed by the 13th amendment as punishment for a crime so I dont get want the OP is trying to achieve

[Kramanica]

Parkus why do you want to travel back the late 1800s? First you want to bring back poll taxes and now you literally want to resurrect slavery.

Normally I don't call people racist during debates... but you arent making it easy.

And I'm pretty sure I've heard you before calling the modern right immoral. Yet your morality apparently justifies poll taxes and slavery.

you and I agree on something not to mention slavery is allowed by the 13th amendment as punishment for a crime so I dont get want the OP is trying to achieve

He wants prisoners to be used as slaves. He essentially wants to implement North Korean-style forces labor.

[San Lumen]

you and I agree on something not to mention slavery is allowed by the 13th amendment as punishment for a crime so I dont get want the OP is trying to achieve

He wants prisoners to be used as slaves. He essentially wants to implement North Korean-style forces labor.

Well that is flat out insane

[Orostan]

>assuming that all arrests are legitimate
>this simplistic worldview

Are you for real?

Not only is he real, but also it is a fact that he became the person he currently is by years of willing exposure to NationStates General. Let this serve as a warning.

Nationstates is a powerful drug.

[Conserative Morality]

>assuming that all arrests are legitimate
>this simplistic worldview

Are you for real?

Not only is he real, but also it is a fact that he became the person he currently is by years of willing exposure to NationStates General. Let this serve as a warning.

Nah, it was an absence from NSG that changed him.

[Ceolophysia]

>assuming that all arrests are legitimate
>this simplistic worldview

Are you for real?

Not only is he real, but also it is a fact that he became the person he currently is by years of willing exposure to NationStates General. Let this serve as a warning.

I don't see what's wrong with letting your views be changed through debate.

[New Emeline]

Not only is he real, but also it is a fact that he became the person he currently is by years of willing exposure to NationStates General. Let this serve as a warning.

I don't see what's wrong with letting your views be changed through debate.

If your views end up changing to "slavery is good", well...

[Conserative Morality]

I don't see what's wrong with letting your views be changed through debate.

If your views end up changing to "slavery is good", well...

Whatever cheeses off the liberals.

[New Emeline]

If your views end up changing to "slavery is good", well...

Whatever cheeses off the liberals.

Liberals don't like genocide you say? I'll show em...

[Ceolophysia]

I don't see what's wrong with letting your views be changed through debate.

If your views end up changing to "slavery is good", well...

Yeah, but exposure isn't really a bad thing…

[Orostan]

If your views end up changing to "slavery is good", well...

Yeah, but exposure isn't really a bad thing…

t. lead manufacturer, 1940

[Ceolophysia]

Yeah, but exposure isn't really a bad thing…

t. lead manufacturer, 1940

An idea isn't going to kill you, unless the idea is "I should go die."

[Orostan]

t. lead manufacturer, 1940

An idea isn't going to kill you, unless the idea is "I should go die."

A lot of ideas can kill someone, or harm someone.

[Ceolophysia]

An idea isn't going to kill you, unless the idea is "I should go die."

A lot of ideas can kill someone, or harm someone.

Someone should be allowed to have that idea though. It's only a problem once acted upon.

[Orostan]

A lot of ideas can kill someone, or harm someone.

Someone should be allowed to have that idea though. It's only a problem once acted upon.

Sometimes true, sometimes not. For example, someone plotting to murder you tomorrow is a problem today.

[Ceolophysia]

Someone should be allowed to have that idea though. It's only a problem once acted upon.

Sometimes true, sometimes not. For example, someone plotting to murder you tomorrow is a problem today.

Thinking that slavery is a good idea is not a problem today, though, and that's the idea we're talking about.