Why do you believe in religion?

[Brizalia]

I refuse to believe that..

Doing a google search quickly found me a rather large amount of places reporting it, including the child in question specifically recanting it.

google boogle. I still refuse to believe that even if the internet says otherwise..

[Albrenia]

Doing a google search quickly found me a rather large amount of places reporting it, including the child in question specifically recanting it.

google boogle. I still refuse to believe that even if the internet says otherwise..

That's entirely your choice.

[Cute Puppies]

Doing a google search quickly found me a rather large amount of places reporting it, including the child in question specifically recanting it.

google boogle. I still refuse to believe that even if the internet says otherwise..

So essentially you're basing your opinion purely off of instinct and personal belief, and not credible resources or fact?

[Brizalia]

google boogle. I still refuse to believe that even if the internet says otherwise..

So essentially you're basing your opinion purely off of instinct and personal belief, and not credible resources or fact?

No, I'm basing it off the Bible, I believe it's 100% possible and true, prayer is also my fact base

[VoVoDoCo]

The God is for Real kid? The authors of that story have since come out saying they'd made the whole thing up.

huh? Show meh proof please.......Also the kid said it himself, describing every bit, that kind of stuff can't be made up....!

I was wrong. It wasn't the parents. The kid made it up. He even said he had never read the bible.
"I did not die. I did not go to Heaven," Alex wrote. He continued, "I said I went to heaven because I thought it would get me attention. When I made the claims that I did, I had never read the Bible. People have profited from lies, and continue to. They should read the Bible, which is enough. The Bible is the only source of truth. Anything written by man cannot be infallible."

Here's some others as well.
http://pulpitandpen.org/2015/01/13/the- ... retailers/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/boo ... /21855709/
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/ ... x-malarkey

[Risen Prussia]

huh? Show meh proof please.......Also the kid said it himself, describing every bit, that kind of stuff can't be made up....!

I was wrong. It wasn't the parents. The kid made it up. He even said he had never read the bible.
"I did not die. I did not go to Heaven," Alex wrote. He continued, "I said I went to heaven because I thought it would get me attention. When I made the claims that I did, I had never read the Bible. People have profited from lies, and continue to. They should read the Bible, which is enough. The Bible is the only source of truth. Anything written by man cannot be infallible."

Here's some others as well.
http://pulpitandpen.org/2015/01/13/the- ... retailers/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/boo ... /21855709/
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/ ... x-malarkey

I believe he made it up

But that doesn’t disprove my mom’s visions/dreams!

[VoVoDoCo]

I refuse to believe that..

da fuck? Then why'd you ask for proof?

google boogle. I still refuse to believe that even if the internet says otherwise..

double fuck?

No, I'm basing it off the Bible, I believe it's 100% possible and true, prayer is also my fact base

I see no reason why that means you have to refuse to believe the Heaven is for real book was a hoax. In fact, I imagine the bible has a bone to pick with liars, I imagine it would be okay for you to as well.

[Brizalia]

I refuse to believe that..

da fuck? Then why'd you ask for proof?

google boogle. I still refuse to believe that even if the internet says otherwise..

double fuck?

No, I'm basing it off the Bible, I believe it's 100% possible and true, prayer is also my fact base

I see no reason why that means you have to refuse to believe the Heaven is for real book was a hoax. In fact, I imagine the bible has a bone to pick with liars, I imagine it would be okay for you to as well.

Jeez calm the f down!! No need to start a rant, Even if that is untrue that doesn't deem that it's not possible and that all the others are fake. I turn to the Bible and pray whenever these sorts of things happen, you honestly never know....it can even happen to me or you

[VoVoDoCo]

No need to start a rant,

Haven't even started yet.

Even if that is untrue that doesn't deem that it's not possible and that all the others are fake.

Possible doesn't mean probable. The burden of evidence is on you to prove that he, and the multitudes of others that claim to, went to heaven. You can't just swat it away with, "It's possible!"

I turn to the Bible and pray whenever these sorts of things happen, you honestly never know....it can even happen to me or you

If it does happen to me, I'll believe it. However, I won't be confused when no one takes me seriously, because personal anecdotes aren't considered valid arguments.

[Brizalia]

Another reason supporting my beliefs that close relatives and friends of mine have experienced the Lord talking to them or them going to heaven and coming back as well, which supports my statement that it is 100% possible!


(I'm sorry but i'm a strongly religious person and I do tend to get in these kinds of predicaments on these sorts of topics)

[Brizalia]

No need to start a rant,

Haven't even started yet.

Even if that is untrue that doesn't deem that it's not possible and that all the others are fake.

Possible doesn't mean probable. The burden of evidence is on you to prove that he, and the multitudes of others that claim to, went to heaven. You can't just swat it away with, "It's possible!"

I turn to the Bible and pray whenever these sorts of things happen, you honestly never know....it can even happen to me or you

If it does happen to me, I'll believe it. However, I won't be confused when no one takes me seriously, because personal anecdotes aren't considered valid arguments.

You know what, I'm just gonna end that conversation right there since you don't get my point. It didn't have to get to this point if you could just calm tf down

[VoVoDoCo]

That sounds cool. It would probably be rude of me to ask what the miracles were, although I am genuinely interested.

People passing out under the Holy Spirit, being exorcised, Tumors falling off, bones straightening out, stuff like that

It was so lit, the worship was awesome and lots were healed

I find it odd God never has the guts to pull off those kinds of healings in front of a camera.

The kind of healings that aren't easy to fake.

No arms growing back. No tumors, that a doctor verifies existed, falling off. Nothing. Just people with limps not limping anymore on camera. The rest of it God insists be spread via word of mouth. Odd.

[VoVoDoCo]

Haven't even started yet.

Possible doesn't mean probable. The burden of evidence is on you to prove that he, and the multitudes of others that claim to, went to heaven. You can't just swat it away with, "It's possible!"

If it does happen to me, I'll believe it. However, I won't be confused when no one takes me seriously, because personal anecdotes aren't considered valid arguments.

You know what, I'm just gonna end that conversation right there since you don't get my point. It didn't have to get to this point if you could just calm tf down

That wasn't calm? This kind of posting is about as tame as you'll find on NS. It's not baity, or flamey, or anything. It's just assertive.

[Farnhamia]

You know what, I'm just gonna end that conversation right there since you don't get my point. It didn't have to get to this point if you could just calm tf down

That wasn't calm? This kind of posting is about as tame as you'll find on NS. It's not baity, or flamey, or anything. It's just assertive.

Maybe a little less assertiveness and some more civility, and you won't drive people out of the thread.

[Nescala]

I am an atheist, and have been for three years. I came to the conclusion that I no longer believe in a deity after asking this exact question - how can I possibly know I'm correct when there are so many other faiths out there with just as much evidence, as well as the disconnect between how people of faith say they should act and how they do act, and the atrocities committed by my former deity of choice.

[Uiiop]

So essentially you're basing your opinion purely off of instinct and personal belief, and not credible resources or fact?

No, I'm basing it off the Bible, I believe it's 100% possible and true, prayer is also my fact base

Just because the bible says there's a heaven doesn't mean someone couldn't lie about being there. Even if the bible is correct.

[VoVoDoCo]

Another reason supporting my beliefs that close relatives and friends of mine have experienced the Lord talking to them or them going to heaven and coming back as well, which supports my statement that it is 100% possible!


(I'm sorry but i'm a strongly religious person and I do tend to get in these kinds of predicaments on these sorts of topics)

Whether or not something is possible is binary: it either isn't possible or it is. If something has a non-zero probability of happening or existing, it is officially 100% possible.

Probability is a different matter. It works on a continuum. You need evidence or reasoning to shift X closer to the end where something is 100% probable (you don't have to reach 100%, but evidence pushed something closer to it). And as established, anecdotes aren't considered evidence, so they can't push something closer to 100%.

[Brizalia]

No, I'm basing it off the Bible, I believe it's 100% possible and true, prayer is also my fact base

Just because the bible says there's a heaven doesn't mean someone couldn't lie about being there. Even if the bible is correct.

Well that's not the only way to see the possibility...
If he was lying wouldn't it be obvious though? I think he was about 6years old when that happened. So about kindergarten? He described it exactly how everyone would imagine it, he talked about every single detail, how he saw the angels and everything, I totally know that 6years wouldn't be able to lie like that...

Trust me...

[VoVoDoCo]

That wasn't calm? This kind of posting is about as tame as you'll find on NS. It's not baity, or flamey, or anything. It's just assertive.

Maybe a little less assertiveness and some more civility, and you won't drive people out of the thread.

I don't understand. Mods (when they're not moderating, just posting in a debate) have been known to get much more assertive. Katganistan is a famous example of this.

I guess I'm just confused what I did. Could you clarify so I don't get an official warning in the future?

[VoVoDoCo]

If he was lying wouldn't it be obvious though? I think he was about 6years old when that happened. So about kindergarten? He described it exactly how everyone would imagine it, he talked about every single detail, how he saw the angels and everything, I totally know that 6years wouldn't be able to lie like that...

Trust me...

But he admitted he did.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Just because the bible says there's a heaven doesn't mean someone couldn't lie about being there. Even if the bible is correct.

Well that's not the only way to see the possibility...
If he was lying wouldn't it be obvious though? I think he was about 6years old when that happened. So about kindergarten? He described it exactly how everyone would imagine it, he talked about every single detail, how he saw the angels and everything, I totally know that 6years wouldn't be able to lie like that...

Trust me...

I lied my ass off as a 6yo.

[Brizalia]

If he was lying wouldn't it be obvious though? I think he was about 6years old when that happened. So about kindergarten? He described it exactly how everyone would imagine it, he talked about every single detail, how he saw the angels and everything, I totally know that 6years wouldn't be able to lie like that...

Trust me...

But he admitted he did.

He was 6. Imagine yourself as a 6year old in that situation. Also have you met or known any 6year old who can "lie" like that?? He described seeing Jesus, as is in the bible. He explained everything that had happened to him perfectly without hesitation nor mistake.

That was an example of media being media.

[Brizalia]

Well that's not the only way to see the possibility...
If he was lying wouldn't it be obvious though? I think he was about 6years old when that happened. So about kindergarten? He described it exactly how everyone would imagine it, he talked about every single detail, how he saw the angels and everything, I totally know that 6years wouldn't be able to lie like that...

Trust me...

I lied my ass off as a 6yo.

didn't most. But I know damn well that that boy went to heaven and came back

[Hakons]

The Holy Spirit dwells inside me, which is how I grow in faith.

[Uiiop]

But he admitted he did.

He was 6. Imagine yourself as a 6year old in that situation. Also have you met or known any 6year old who can "lie" like that?? He described seeing Jesus, as is in the bible. He explained everything that had happened to him perfectly without hesitation nor mistake.

That was an example of media being media.

You are aware it was "Co-written" right? with editors and such. However good his lying was he had people that improved upon it.