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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:17 pm
by Galloism
Dytarma wrote:No, the hotdog bun is a singular piece of bread that happens to open up to put the hotdog in the middle.

Is this a sandwich?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:17 pm
by Dogmeat
If hot dogs are sandwiches, then are stuffed buns sandwiches?

Man, I could go for some Chinese sandwiches.

Wikipedia is reliable. TL:DR

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:17 pm
by Loltacos
Bombadil wrote:
Galloism wrote:I mean, there's a lot of people that refer to "hamburger sandwiches", which is just another term for a burger.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburger



Wikipedia is not a source.

It is a reliable source. To quote:
"A study in the journal Nature said that in 2005, Wikipedia's scientific articles came close to the level of accuracy in Encyclopædia Britannica and had a similar rate of "serious errors".[4] Encyclopædia Britannica disputed the Nature study,[5] and Nature replied with a formal response and point-by-point rebuttal of Britannica's main objections.[6] Between 2008 and 2012, Wikipedia articles on medical and scientific fields such as pathology,[7] toxicology,[8] oncology,[9] pharmaceuticals,[10][11] and psychiatry[12] were compared to professional and peer-reviewed sources and it was found that Wikipedia's depth and coverage were of a high standard. Concerns regarding readability were raised in a study published by the American Society of Clinical Oncology[13] and a study published in Psychological Medicine (2012),[12] while a study published in the European Journal of Gastroenterology and Hepatology raised concerns about reliability.[14]"
SOURCES:
Giles, J. (2005). "Internet encyclopaedias go head to head: Jimmy Wales' Wikipedia comes close to Britannica in terms of the accuracy of its science entries". Nature. 438 (7070): 900–1. Bibcode:2005Natur.438..900G. doi:10.1038/438900a. PMID 16355180. The study (which was not in itself peer-reviewed) was cited in many news articles such as this: "Wikipedia survives research test". BBC News. BBC. December 15, 2005.
Fatally Flawed: Refuting the recent study on encyclopedic accuracy by the journal Nature Encyclopædia Britannica, March 2006
Nature (2006-03-30). "Nature's responses to Encyclopaedia Britannica". Nature.com. Archived from the original on 2006-11-05. Retrieved 2012-03-19.
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S. Robert Lichter, Ph.D,,: Are chemicals killing us? Statistical Assessment Service, May 21, 2009
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Reavley, N. J.; MacKinnon, A. J.; Morgan, A. J.; Alvarez-Jimenez, M.; Hetrick, S. E.; Killackey, E.; Nelson, B.; Purcell, R.; Yap, M. B. H.; Jorm, A. F. (2011). "Quality of information sources about mental disorders: A comparison of Wikipedia with centrally controlled web and printed sources". Psychological Medicine. 42 (8): 1753–1762. doi:10.1017/S003329171100287X. PMID 22166182.
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TL:DR Wikipedia is reliable.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:18 pm
by Galloism
Bombadil wrote:
Galloism wrote:I mean, there's a lot of people that refer to "hamburger sandwiches", which is just another term for a burger.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburger



Wikipedia is not a source.

Ironically, what is or is not a sandwich gets asked often enough that there are whole articles about it:

Can Burgers and Hot Dogs Be Considered Sandwiches?

Is anything a sandwich when it’s on bread?
In life, sometimes we encounter questions whose answers shake us to our very core and make us question everything we thought we knew on an existential level. Whether burgers and hot dogs can be considered sandwiches is not one of those questions. But it’s still worth asking.

The answer comes down to another profound question: What, exactly, is a sandwich? Merriam-Webster defines it as “two or more slices of bread or a split roll having a filling in between.” Simple enough. Essentially, anything can be a sandwich so long as it’s between two slices of bread or inside a roll or bun. So yes, unequivocally, hot dogs and hamburgers are very much sandwiches.

But it’s not so simple. When we think of sandwiches, we think of peanut butter and jelly, or a turkey club, or an Italian sub, not a bacon cheeseburger. Just like when we think of fruit, we think of apples and bananas, not tomatoes (which are in fact fruits). Burgers and hot dogs exist in their own section of the menu, separate from the “Sandwiches.” For all intents and purposes, they are completely different food items from sandwiches. But in terms of classifications, these cookout staples are indeed sandwiches, whether you think of them that way or not.


https://www.thedailymeal.com/eat/can-bu ... sandwiches

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:20 pm
by Bombadil
The bigger debate is whether sandwiches should ever be chilled or not.. some, especially the French, would say that chilling a sandwich is a travesty.

Of course safety technocrats happily blanket ban good sandwiches cos some kid somewhere got salmonella or something but to chill a sandwich destroys a sandwich.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:21 pm
by Unstoppable Empire of Doom
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid= ... 1789&hl=en

I'm just saying... if you are going to eat them buy quality. You really don't want to know what you are eating otherwise.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:22 pm
by Farnhamia
Bombadil wrote:The bigger debate is whether sandwiches should ever be chilled or not.. some, especially the French, would say that chilling a sandwich is a travesty.

Of course safety technocrats happily blanket ban good sandwiches cos some kid somewhere got salmonella or something but to chill a sandwich destroys a sandwich.

Image

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:27 pm
by Bombadil
Farnhamia wrote:
Bombadil wrote:The bigger debate is whether sandwiches should ever be chilled or not.. some, especially the French, would say that chilling a sandwich is a travesty.

Of course safety technocrats happily blanket ban good sandwiches cos some kid somewhere got salmonella or something but to chill a sandwich destroys a sandwich.

Image


Ice cream filled biscuit with a brand name.

*strikes from record*

Loltacos wrote:It is a reliable source. To quote:
*snips*


That is far too referenced a post for me to not blithely ignore and move on..

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:27 pm
by Dogmeat
Farnhamia wrote:
Bombadil wrote:The bigger debate is whether sandwiches should ever be chilled or not.. some, especially the French, would say that chilling a sandwich is a travesty.

Of course safety technocrats happily blanket ban good sandwiches cos some kid somewhere got salmonella or something but to chill a sandwich destroys a sandwich.

Image

You could make the argument that an ice-cream sandwich is a "sandwich" only as an analogy. Like how having sex between two other people is a "sandwich."

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:30 pm
by UniversalCommons
Galloism wrote:Is this a sandwich? I think that's the real question.

(Image)


No that looks like a bun, nut a sandwich, the hotdog looks like it was originally baked inside the bun. You can buy this kind of hot dog bun at chinese dumpling shops. It definitely is a bun, not a sandwich.

You get a poll, and you get a poll

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:30 pm
by Loltacos
Bombadil wrote:The bigger debate is whether sandwiches should ever be chilled or not.. some, especially the French, would say that chilling a sandwich is a travesty.

Of course safety technocrats happily blanket ban good sandwiches cos some kid somewhere got salmonella or something but to chill a sandwich destroys a sandwich.

Made a poll based off that.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:30 pm
by Hatterleigh
Cekoviu wrote:A bun is one piece of bread; it's just bent. Thus, a hot dog is not a sandwich.

No it isn't. It's two slices of bread that are connected at the edge. This comment really does anger me on a primal level.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:31 pm
by Arkeyana
At school, people comment on how smart I am.
Then stuff like this happens.
And I feel completely stupid.
Either way: Hotdogs only have three sides exposed, whereas a sandwich has all sides (with the exception of top and bottom) exposed. So therefore a Hotdog is 3/4 sandwich. So Hotdogs are not sandwiches.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:31 pm
by Geneviev
Hot dogs are not sandwiches because this is not a sandwich:

Image

It is a very nice looking animal. Not a sandwich.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:32 pm
by Bombadil
Loltacos wrote:
Bombadil wrote:The bigger debate is whether sandwiches should ever be chilled or not.. some, especially the French, would say that chilling a sandwich is a travesty.

Of course safety technocrats happily blanket ban good sandwiches cos some kid somewhere got salmonella or something but to chill a sandwich destroys a sandwich.

Made a poll based off that.


Well.. I think one sandwich thread is enough to be honest.. though I am but a simple man.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:32 pm
by Esparmuran
Calling a hot dog a sandwich is an affront to sandwiches worldwide.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:32 pm
by Hatterleigh
Farnhamia wrote:
Sadboiz wrote:Not really discussion related but this thread is the most cursed thing I have ever seen.

Heh. Not by a long shot.

I myself am now post-sandwich. I just put the filling and the bread on a plate and tear them into small pieces. Finger food.

We live in anarchy these days

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:32 pm
by Cute Puppies
Yes. No question. Anyone who disagrees is a dirty capitalist pig.

Sandwich Arguement Threads

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:33 pm
by Loltacos
Bombadil wrote:
Loltacos wrote:Made a poll based off that.


Well.. I think one sandwich thread is enough to be honest.. though I am but a simple man.

NOPE.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:33 pm
by Bombadil
Hatterleigh wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:A bun is one piece of bread; it's just bent. Thus, a hot dog is not a sandwich.

No it isn't. It's two slices of bread that are connected at the edge. This comment really does anger me on a primal level.


It's a loaf partially sliced not two slices connected.. neo-slice theory holds no truck with me young whippersnapper.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:34 pm
by Dytarma
Hatterleigh wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:A bun is one piece of bread; it's just bent. Thus, a hot dog is not a sandwich.

No it isn't. It's two slices of bread that are connected at the edge. This comment really does anger me on a primal level.

Thus making it one slice of bread, there for not a sandwich.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:35 pm
by The South Falls
Since the bun is one piece of bread, that disqualifies the hot dog from being a sandwich.

Dogs, Litreal and Figurative.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:36 pm
by Loltacos
Geneviev wrote:Hot dogs are not sandwiches because this is not a sandwich:

(Image)

It is a very nice looking animal. Not a sandwich.

Right, because I am talking about hot dogs, and this is a costumed dog

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:36 pm
by Galloism
Dytarma wrote:
Hatterleigh wrote:No it isn't. It's two slices of bread that are connected at the edge. This comment really does anger me on a primal level.

Thus making it one slice of bread, there for not a sandwich.

Is this a sandwich?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:38 pm
by Ifreann
theyre good dogs brent