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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:34 am

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Yea, but it's not a soup

Neither is cerial.
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Postby Esternial » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:35 am

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Hurdergaryp wrote:No, no, the sausage that is so integral to the hot dog is called a frankfurter.


They are synonyms. In America when they sell frankfurters the packaging is just hot dogs. And when you go camping you put hot dogs over a fire not frankfurters.

Let's also not forget that in some countries the bun itself used for a hot dog is actually called a sandwich (or a pistolet, I suppose).
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:15 am

Esternial wrote:
NotAtlantis wrote:
They are synonyms. In America when they sell frankfurters the packaging is just hot dogs. And when you go camping you put hot dogs over a fire not frankfurters.

Let's also not forget that in some countries the bun itself used for a hot dog is actually called a sandwich (or a pistolet, I suppose).


Using your fake foreign words again is see.

Look as the NHDSC says

Limiting the hot dog’s significance by saying it’s ‘just a sandwich’ is like calling the Dalai Llama ‘just a guy’. 

Is your Camilid cousin, just a guy? Hmmmm?
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Postby Dylar » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:08 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Yea, but it's not a soup

Neither is cerial.

You know, I can always bring that thread back without grave digging it.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:43 am

Dylar wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Neither is cerial.

You know, I can always bring that thread back without grave digging it.

Some would call that a threat, while others consider it to be a promise.


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Postby Dylar » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:46 am

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Dylar wrote:You know, I can always bring that thread back without grave digging it.

Some would call that a threat, while others consider it to be a promise.

*evil laughter intensifies* :twisted:
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:56 am

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Dylar wrote:You know, I can always bring that thread back without grave digging it.

Some would call that a threat, while others consider it to be a promise.

Tbf, we haven't talked about the eventual end product yet.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:58 am

Is a doner a sandwich?
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:27 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:Is a doner a sandwich?

Only if a hot dog is a sandwich too, given how döner tends to be made with the help of a one-piece bread container, pita bread in this case, as well.


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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:26 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:Is a doner a sandwich?

You mean kebab? A kebab is a wrap. You must ask your self is any wrap- a kebab, a yeeros, soulaki wrap, a wrap, a burrito, etc. a sandwhich. If a kebab is a sandwhich then so is a burrito
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Postby Esternial » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:56 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Esternial wrote:Let's also not forget that in some countries the bun itself used for a hot dog is actually called a sandwich (or a pistolet, I suppose).


Using your fake foreign words again is see.

Look as the NHDSC says

Limiting the hot dog’s significance by saying it’s ‘just a sandwich’ is like calling the Dalai Llama ‘just a guy’. 

Is your Camilid cousin, just a guy? Hmmmm?

But he is still, by scientific standards, a human being - no different from a guy. You can identify him as a specific nationality, but the overall category is "human". The overall category of a hot dog is "sandwich". So all you've suggested here is that hot dog is a subset of the "sandwich" category, which I have no qualms with. It's still a sandwich, though.

Is this the best you can do, kitty cat? HA HA HA MINE IS AN EVIL LAUGH
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:12 am

Esternial wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Using your fake foreign words again is see.

Look as the NHDSC says

Limiting the hot dog’s significance by saying it’s ‘just a sandwich’ is like calling the Dalai Llama ‘just a guy’. 

Is your Camilid cousin, just a guy? Hmmmm?

But he is still, by scientific standards, a human being - no different from a guy. You can identify him as a specific nationality, but the overall category is "human". The overall category of a hot dog is "sandwich". So all you've suggested here is that hot dog is a subset of the "sandwich" category, which I have no qualms with. It's still a sandwich, though.

Is this the best you can do, kitty cat? HA HA HA MINE IS AN EVIL LAUGH

The hot dog, much like the llama have the spark of the Devine them which makes them transcend their human parts. A single bun, is what makes a hot dog, slicing that bun gives you a mere sausage sandwich, one bite and the condiments are dripping down your shirt and pants, but with the sagnity of the bun intact, a clean gormet experience can be had.

Tbh, your laugh does worry me a bit, sounds a little carnivorous if you ask ne.
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Postby Esternial » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:31 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Esternial wrote:But he is still, by scientific standards, a human being - no different from a guy. You can identify him as a specific nationality, but the overall category is "human". The overall category of a hot dog is "sandwich". So all you've suggested here is that hot dog is a subset of the "sandwich" category, which I have no qualms with. It's still a sandwich, though.

Is this the best you can do, kitty cat? HA HA HA MINE IS AN EVIL LAUGH

The hot dog, much like the llama have the spark of the Devine them which makes them transcend their human parts. A single bun, is what makes a hot dog, slicing that bun gives you a mere sausage sandwich, one bite and the condiments are dripping down your shirt and pants, but with the sagnity of the bun intact, a clean gormet experience can be had.

Tbh, your laugh does worry me a bit, sounds a little carnivorous if you ask ne.

How quick you are to eschew your precious NHDSC. You are the hot dog picking your arguments to see which one sticks, but you cannot ignore the truth.

Hot dogs are a subset of sandwiches. Some might not call them a sandwich and prefer to call a more stricter category "true sandwiches" but its is still within the category of sandwiches. It occurs often enough within taxonomy when genetic information is merged with older classification based on morphology.

Another example would be regions and cities. Antwerp is a region, with Antwerp a city within Antwerp.

Hot dogs are a subcategory within "sandwich". Maybe there's a stricter class of "sandwich" within the category of "sandwich", but "hot dog" is still a "sandwich".

Give up feeble kitty.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:47 am

Esternial wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:The hot dog, much like the llama have the spark of the Devine them which makes them transcend their human parts. A single bun, is what makes a hot dog, slicing that bun gives you a mere sausage sandwich, one bite and the condiments are dripping down your shirt and pants, but with the sagnity of the bun intact, a clean gormet experience can be had.

Tbh, your laugh does worry me a bit, sounds a little carnivorous if you ask ne.

How quick you are to eschew your precious NHDSC. You are the hot dog picking your arguments to see which one sticks, but you cannot ignore the truth.

Hot dogs are a subset of sandwiches. Some might not call them a sandwich and prefer to call a more stricter category "true sandwiches" but its is still within the category of sandwiches. It occurs often enough within taxonomy when genetic information is merged with older classification based on morphology.

Another example would be regions and cities. Antwerp is a region, with Antwerp a city within Antwerp.

Hot dogs are a subcategory within "sandwich". Maybe there's a stricter class of "sandwich" within the category of "sandwich", but "hot dog" is still a "sandwich".

Give up feeble kitty.



Eschew? I have eschewed nothing. I and the NHDSC , stand together in singing the transcendence of the bun, of the single unsliced bun, to elevate a hot dog above a mere sandwich.

Your fur is matted.
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Postby Esternial » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:36 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Esternial wrote:How quick you are to eschew your precious NHDSC. You are the hot dog picking your arguments to see which one sticks, but you cannot ignore the truth.

Hot dogs are a subset of sandwiches. Some might not call them a sandwich and prefer to call a more stricter category "true sandwiches" but its is still within the category of sandwiches. It occurs often enough within taxonomy when genetic information is merged with older classification based on morphology.

Another example would be regions and cities. Antwerp is a region, with Antwerp a city within Antwerp.

Hot dogs are a subcategory within "sandwich". Maybe there's a stricter class of "sandwich" within the category of "sandwich", but "hot dog" is still a "sandwich".

Give up feeble kitty.



Eschew? I have eschewed nothing. I and the NHDSC , stand together in singing the transcendence of the bun, of the single unsliced bun, to elevate a hot dog above a mere sandwich.

Your fur is matted.

Feel free to elevate it as much as you want, but it's still within the "sandwich" category.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:00 am

If hot dogs aren't sandwhiches then neither are subs, and if subs ain't sandwhiches, then Subway's gotta a lotta 'splainin' to do
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:25 am

Australian rePublic wrote:If hot dogs aren't sandwhiches then neither are subs, and if subs ain't sandwhiches, then Subway's gotta a lotta 'splainin' to do

Write a sternly worded letter to the Subway headquarters and demand a rapid reply.


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Postby Albrenia » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:29 am

Australian rePublic wrote:If hot dogs aren't sandwhiches then neither are subs, and if subs ain't sandwhiches, then Subway's gotta a lotta 'splainin' to do


Like who names a supposedly healthy food 'Subway'. I'm aware of their shape and all, but the last thing I think of when I hear 'subway' is 'healthy'.

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:34 am

Albrenia wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:If hot dogs aren't sandwhiches then neither are subs, and if subs ain't sandwhiches, then Subway's gotta a lotta 'splainin' to do

Like who names a supposedly healthy food 'Subway'. I'm aware of their shape and all, but the last thing I think of when I hear 'subway' is 'healthy'.

Using public transport to travel is more environmentally friendly than going to places by car, so there's that. Being friendly towards the environment tends to be seen as healthy behaviour, after all.


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Postby NotAtlantis » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:48 am

Esternial wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:The hot dog, much like the llama have the spark of the Devine them which makes them transcend their human parts. A single bun, is what makes a hot dog, slicing that bun gives you a mere sausage sandwich, one bite and the condiments are dripping down your shirt and pants, but with the sagnity of the bun intact, a clean gormet experience can be had.

Tbh, your laugh does worry me a bit, sounds a little carnivorous if you ask ne.

How quick you are to eschew your precious NHDSC. You are the hot dog picking your arguments to see which one sticks, but you cannot ignore the truth.

Hot dogs are a subset of sandwiches. Some might not call them a sandwich and prefer to call a more stricter category "true sandwiches" but its is still within the category of sandwiches. It occurs often enough within taxonomy when genetic information is merged with older classification based on morphology.

Another example would be regions and cities. Antwerp is a region, with Antwerp a city within Antwerp.

Hot dogs are a subcategory within "sandwich". Maybe there's a stricter class of "sandwich" within the category of "sandwich", but "hot dog" is still a "sandwich".

Give up feeble kitty.


Webster and the national hot dog association have already said that a hot dog is not a sandwich.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:51 am

Esternial wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:

Eschew? I have eschewed nothing. I and the NHDSC , stand together in singing the transcendence of the bun, of the single unsliced bun, to elevate a hot dog above a mere sandwich.

Your fur is matted.

Feel free to elevate it as much as you want, but it's still within the "sandwich" category.

Just like the llama is another guy, uncultured ruminant
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:27 am

Ladies and gentlemen, please refrain from directly attacking each other. It is perfectly understandable that the subject of this thread has quite the emotional impact upon many present here, but do try to keep things polite.


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Postby Esternial » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:31 am

NotAtlantis wrote:
Esternial wrote:How quick you are to eschew your precious NHDSC. You are the hot dog picking your arguments to see which one sticks, but you cannot ignore the truth.

Hot dogs are a subset of sandwiches. Some might not call them a sandwich and prefer to call a more stricter category "true sandwiches" but its is still within the category of sandwiches. It occurs often enough within taxonomy when genetic information is merged with older classification based on morphology.

Another example would be regions and cities. Antwerp is a region, with Antwerp a city within Antwerp.

Hot dogs are a subcategory within "sandwich". Maybe there's a stricter class of "sandwich" within the category of "sandwich", but "hot dog" is still a "sandwich".

Give up feeble kitty.


Webster and the national hot dog association have already said that a hot dog is not a sandwich.

Clearly you didn't bother to read the entire things, despite it being only a single paragraph, as the NHDSC admits to it being "formerly known as a sandwich" and comparing the distinction to calling the Dalai Llama more than "just a guy", despite the Dalai Llama still being a guy - a famous guy, sure, but still just a man.

Based on his physical properties, the Dalai Llama is a man. A hot dog is a sandwich.

Read your sources.

Ethel mermania wrote:
Esternial wrote:Feel free to elevate it as much as you want, but it's still within the "sandwich" category.

Just like the llama is another guy, uncultured ruminant

Well, yes. We're going by physical properties and categorization, not how you "feel" about it.

Pretty sure the Chinese consider him just a guy.

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Postby NotAtlantis » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:49 am

Esternial wrote:
NotAtlantis wrote:
Webster and the national hot dog association have already said that a hot dog is not a sandwich.

Clearly you didn't bother to read the entire things, despite it being only a single paragraph, as the NHDSC admits to it being "formerly known as a sandwich" and comparing the distinction to calling the Dalai Llama more than "just a guy", despite the Dalai Llama still being a guy - a famous guy, sure, but still just a man.

Based on his physical properties, the Dalai Llama is a man. A hot dog is a sandwich.

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The key word in that was formerly. Therefore no longer, so it is not a sandwich.

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Postby Esternial » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:55 am

NotAtlantis wrote:
Esternial wrote:Clearly you didn't bother to read the entire things, despite it being only a single paragraph, as the NHDSC admits to it being "formerly known as a sandwich" and comparing the distinction to calling the Dalai Llama more than "just a guy", despite the Dalai Llama still being a guy - a famous guy, sure, but still just a man.

Based on his physical properties, the Dalai Llama is a man. A hot dog is a sandwich.

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The key word in that was formerly. Therefore no longer, so it is not a sandwich.

So the Dalai Llama is not guy? Not a human?

So if the NRA would start calling a gun "fun stick" we would all be obliged to adopt that change?

Your logic is flawed.
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