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Postby Sovaal » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:49 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Better idea, kick California out of the Union in November.


I am for it. We can hook up with Canada. Hawaii can come too.

Well take the Prairie provinces and the Maritimes, they can have NYC and California.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:50 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Better idea, kick California out of the Union in November.


I am for it. We can hook up with Canada. Hawaii can come too.


Alas we'll still need to keep you under military occupation for national security and pretty map reasons.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:50 pm

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San Lumen wrote:How so? As i pointed out int the OP the logistics of this make no sense. For example Why should someone in San Diego have to pay exorbitant tuition to attend UC Berkeley?


The real question is why would someone want to attend UC Berkeley?


Awwww. They rejected your application?
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Postby Sovaal » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:50 pm

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Sovaal wrote:No, better idea. Let them secede. Carve out Shasta or Jefferson as well. Turn of the water. send in the military. Military occupation. Eventually let back into the union as either a less powerful state or had over to Texas.


Texas? Like hell.

Precisely as to why. None of that ‘10%’ bull that was pulled with the South.
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Postby Sovaal » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:51 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
I am for it. We can hook up with Canada. Hawaii can come too.


Alas we'll still need to keep you under military occupation for national security and pretty map reasons.

And Canada too.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Geneviev » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:51 pm

Wanderjar wrote:
San Lumen wrote:How so? As i pointed out int the OP the logistics of this make no sense. For example Why should someone in San Diego have to pay exorbitant tuition to attend UC Berkeley?


The real question is why would someone want to attend UC Berkeley?

I don't know, good school?
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Postby Wanderjar » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:51 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Wanderjar wrote:
The real question is why would someone want to attend UC Berkeley?


Awwww. They rejected your application?


It would have been a cold day in Hell before I would have applied to that bastion of communist indoctrination. I went to Johns Hopkins.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:51 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Sovaal wrote:No, better idea. Let them secede. Carve out Shasta or Jefferson as well. Turn of the water. send in the military. Military occupation. Eventually let back into the union as either a less powerful state or had over to Texas.


Texas? Like hell.

Fun fact, we used to be friends. The star on our flag was in solidarity with Texas.
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Postby Sovaal » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:52 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Which will lead to the real problem. Military people in California.

Why would anyone military want to live in California?

Military bases, California’s who serve in the military, etc etc.
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Geneviev » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:52 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Which will lead to the real problem. Military people in California.

Why would anyone military want to live in California?

Because we've got military bases. You try to take statehood from your navy, good luck.
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Postby Tobleste » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:53 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Better idea, kick California out of the Union in November.


I am for it. We can hook up with Canada. Hawaii can come too.


Considering how much California gives to the federal government, how much it's underrepresented at federal level and how much conservatives bitch and moan about it, I'm not sure why the state as a whole doesn't wants to change it's relationship with the federal government.
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Postby Sovaal » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:53 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
I am for it. We can hook up with Canada. Hawaii can come too.

I’m into it. Less whining every time the name California is mentioned.

We’ll take the flyover regions, they can have you guys.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Sovaal » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:54 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:Why would anyone military want to live in California?

Because we've got military bases. You try to take statehood from your navy, good luck.

Military isn’t a state silly.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Hammer Britannia » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:54 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:Why would anyone military want to live in California?

Because we've got military bases. You try to take statehood from your navy, good luck.

Um, you do realize the military serves the Feds right?
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Postby Geneviev » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:54 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Because we've got military bases. You try to take statehood from your navy, good luck.

Military isn’t a state silly.

The military living in this state probably would want their children to be US citizens. Yeah?
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Postby Hatterleigh » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:54 pm

Sounds great, in my opinion. Then again, I don't live in california so I wouldn't know how it be
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:55 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Military isn’t a state silly.

The military living in this state probably would want their children to be US citizens. Yeah?


We'll be accepting good right wing refugees.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:56 pm

Wanderjar wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Awwww. They rejected your application?


It would have been a cold day in Hell before I would have applied to that bastion of communist indoctrination. I went to Johns Hopkins.


Well good at least they let you in.
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Postby Wanderjar » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:56 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Geneviev wrote:The military living in this state probably would want their children to be US citizens. Yeah?


We'll be accepting good right wing refugees.


We'll take 'em here in Houston to offset the Rice University crowd.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:56 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Military isn’t a state silly.

The military living in this state probably would want their children to be US citizens. Yeah?

We're not taking away your citizenship, just your stateship
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Postby Geneviev » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:56 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Geneviev wrote:The military living in this state probably would want their children to be US citizens. Yeah?


We'll be accepting good right wing refugees.

I'll just go call my military brat friend and tell him his brother/sister won't be a US citizen.
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Postby Geneviev » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:56 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Geneviev wrote:The military living in this state probably would want their children to be US citizens. Yeah?

We're not taking away your citizenship, just your stateship

If California becomes a territory, people born here won't get citizenship.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:57 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Geneviev wrote:The military living in this state probably would want their children to be US citizens. Yeah?


We'll be accepting good right wing refugees.


Please take them. They would be happier.
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Postby Sovaal » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:58 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Military isn’t a state silly.

The military living in this state probably would want their children to be US citizens. Yeah?

Good for them. Again, the military ain’t a state, and has nothing to do with the state hood of a region or not.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Wanderjar » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:58 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:We're not taking away your citizenship, just your stateship

If California becomes a territory, people born here won't get citizenship.


I mean, its not like they're really citizens anyway. People from the coastal counties hate this country so they're not really losing anything are they?
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