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Postby Torrocca » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:35 am

If we divide Cali up this much, are we gonna divide Texas next? :^)
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Postby Ors Might » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:35 am

Torrocca wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Every county should be its own state. 3,142 states sounds about right.


Nay, every community shall be divided into roughly 250 people, which means the cities and towns will be cut to pieces. We'll have millions of states :^)))

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Postby Torrocca » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:36 am

Ors Might wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Nay, every community shall be divided into roughly 250 people, which means the cities and towns will be cut to pieces. We'll have millions of states :^)))

Power move: Make a new state everytime someone’s born.


MAKE A NEW STATE EVERYTIME SOMEONE DIES.

The graveyards shall become mega-countries!
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Postby Ors Might » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:38 am

Torrocca wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Power move: Make a new state everytime someone’s born.


MAKE A NEW STATE EVERYTIME SOMEONE DIES.

The graveyards shall become mega-countries!

Dead people have been voting already, why not?
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Postby Van Riebeeck Land » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:38 am

My last point is correct, splitting the state does nothing for the GOP, and it bolsters the Democrats, basically handing them 4 Senate seats. I've made up my mind. I'm against the initiative.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:38 am

Freezic Vast wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Ok then why should California be broken up other than those people in Los Angeles or the Bay area decide everything?

The real question should be why not? Why should someone living in a rural farmland be dictated by what someone in LA or SF says or does like they do now?


Because they are all part of the same state. A county like Inyo which borders Nevada is not going to survive on its own.

Why not make the Bay Area or Los Angeles its own state?

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:39 am

Torrocca wrote:If we divide Cali up this much, are we gonna divide Texas next? :^)

Or New York, Illinois or Maryland? Where does it end?

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Postby Torrocca » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:40 am

Ors Might wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
MAKE A NEW STATE EVERYTIME SOMEONE DIES.

The graveyards shall become mega-countries!

Dead people have been voting already, why not?


Now all we need is a Necronomicon and maybe a shaman...

San Lumen wrote:
Torrocca wrote:If we divide Cali up this much, are we gonna divide Texas next? :^)

Or New York, Illinois or Maryland? Where does it end?


THE RIDE NEVER ENDS
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Postby Christmas Pudding » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:41 am

Freezic Vast wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Ok then why should California be broken up other than those people in Los Angeles or the Bay area decide everything?

The real question should be why not? Why should someone living in a rural farmland be dictated by what someone in LA or SF says or does like they do now?

There needs to be a very compelling set of reasons to split up a state, because it's a big deal to do something like that.

Yes, it is frustrating to live in a state that leans differently than you do. Since politics is so polarized, you may feel completely disenfranchised in your state government, and your vote basically counts for nothing in presidential elections. This not a problem unique to California, though.

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Postby Van Riebeeck Land » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:41 am

San Lumen wrote:
Torrocca wrote:If we divide Cali up this much, are we gonna divide Texas next? :^)

Or New York, Illinois or Maryland? Where does it end?

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Let's do it!
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Postby Ors Might » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:42 am

San Lumen wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:The real question should be why not? Why should someone living in a rural farmland be dictated by what someone in LA or SF says or does like they do now?


Because they are all part of the same state. A county like Inyo which borders Nevada is not going to survive on its own.

Why not make the Bay Area or Los Angeles its own state?

You seem oddly fine with people making decisions for communities they haven’t the slightest appreciation for.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:42 am

San Lumen wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:The real question should be why not? Why should someone living in a rural farmland be dictated by what someone in LA or SF says or does like they do now?


Because they are all part of the same state. A county like Inyo which borders Nevada is not going to survive on its own.

Why not make the Bay Area or Los Angeles its own state?

This is all the same argument that could be used in your awful urban/rural divide thread, and I refuse to continue arguing the same points that you cannot comprehend at all for the sake that you have to be right all the fucking time. I have answered your question the same times on that thread a thousand times, I refuse to do it again here, especially with someone so stubborn and useless like you to understand this issue and continues to badger this on further and further. Cali should be split, I gave you my reasons why, get over it and move the fuck on, instead of continued questions that are irrelevant.
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Postby Ors Might » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:43 am

Torrocca wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Dead people have been voting already, why not?


Now all we need is a Necronomicon and maybe a shaman...

San Lumen wrote:Or New York, Illinois or Maryland? Where does it end?


THE RIDE NEVER ENDS

I would watch this movie.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:43 am

Ors Might wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Because they are all part of the same state. A county like Inyo which borders Nevada is not going to survive on its own.

Why not make the Bay Area or Los Angeles its own state?

You seem oddly fine with people making decisions for communities they haven’t the slightest appreciation for.

Why not break up every state into fragments or better yet just dissolve the United States entirely make every state its own country?

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Postby Torrocca » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:45 am

San Lumen wrote:
Ors Might wrote:You seem oddly fine with people making decisions for communities they haven’t the slightest appreciation for.

Why not break up every state into fragments or better yet just dissolve the United States entirely make every state its own country?


We turn every person into a state :^)
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Postby Freezic Vast » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:45 am

San Lumen wrote:
Ors Might wrote:You seem oddly fine with people making decisions for communities they haven’t the slightest appreciation for.

Why not break up every state into fragments or better yet just dissolve the United States entirely make every state its own country?

Why not stop asking useless and irrelevant questions that mean nothing?
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Postby Ors Might » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:46 am

San Lumen wrote:
Ors Might wrote:You seem oddly fine with people making decisions for communities they haven’t the slightest appreciation for.

Why not break up every state into fragments or better yet just dissolve the United States entirely make every state its own country?

You understand that I’m an anarchist, right? There is nothing in that sentence that I would be opposed to. Hell, lets apply this to every nation.
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Postby Proctopeo » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:52 am

San Lumen wrote:
Ors Might wrote:You seem oddly fine with people making decisions for communities they haven’t the slightest appreciation for.

Why not break up every state into fragments or better yet just dissolve the United States entirely make every state its own country?

I'm for a degree of swaraj; not so much we dissolve the Union entirely, but enough that we add some more stars to the flag, so the first part of that sentence doesn't really bother me at all, since it's not that bad an idea.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:56 am

Kramanica wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Why not break up New York or Virginia? Break up Maryland and turn the Eastern shore into its own state while we are it.

Or make New Castle County in Delaware its own state? That way the people in the other two counties would have more say.

New York smells so it can be broken up.


That's New Jersey. It's already separate.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:02 am

Van Riebeeck Land wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Or New York, Illinois or Maryland? Where does it end?

Image


Let's do it!


Too much effort.

This is eaiser.

Image
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
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Postby Painisia » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:04 am

They should name the states Saint Reagan, Schwarzenegger and Hollywood. But why are they doing this? Do they want authorities to be more local?
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Postby Torrocca » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:05 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Van Riebeeck Land wrote:
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Let's do it!


Too much effort.

This is eaiser.

Image


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Postby Van Riebeeck Land » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:08 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Van Riebeeck Land wrote:
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Let's do it!


Too much effort.

This is eaiser.

Image

What is this? 2004 or something.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:10 am

Painisia wrote:They should name the states Saint Reagan, Schwarzenegger and Hollywood. But why are they doing this? Do they want authorities to be more local?


Hollywood would be the District of Hollywood.
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Postby Christmas Pudding » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:12 am

Torrocca wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Too much effort.

This is eaiser.

Image


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Border gore for everyone!

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