Atheism Discussion Thread

[Sensual Lettuce]

"Do you think god stays in heaven because he, too, lives in fear of what he's created?" - Spy Kids 2

[Dylar]

"Do you think god stays in heaven because he, too, lives in fear of what he's created?" - Spy Kids 2

I mean, He came down to Earth as Jesus Christ and then descended into Hell to conquer death after He was crucified, so He knows what it's like down here.

[Albrenia]

I don't know enough about the repair mechanisms of DNA to comment on that part, but I do know from the host of disabilities, mutations and the like that it is far from perfect, even though I'll admit it is quite impressive.

Again, it's all exactly what one would expect from Evolution.

[Godular]

"Do you think god stays in heaven because he, too, lives in fear of what he's created?" - Spy Kids 2

I mean, He came down to Earth as Jesus Christ and then descended into Hell to conquer death after He was crucified, so He knows what it's like down here.

Why would he need to conquer death if he created it?

[The New California Republic]

If you can't talk to me in a civilized manner, then don't talk to me at all. I have had this problem with you before, it needs to stop.

Easily. Avoidable... right, sure, you get back to me when you present an easy alternative, also, Basic. Cellular. Mechanisms. Are you ... I mean... what? There so ridiculously complicated, beyond anything that man, and the very limit at which nature can operate! Basic. Cellular... That's how I know you know nothing, because someone who knows, does not call Cellular machinery: "Basic". Yeah, it's basic... gosh I wonder why its taken us 50 years to just scratch the surface of this "Basic" thing. Ughhh.

And the major attitude problem continues unabated. There is no excuse for it. I asked you to stop, and you doubled down. Consider yourself ignored. If you cannot debate with me in a civil manner, then you won't debate with me at all.

I mean, He came down to Earth as Jesus Christ and then descended into Hell to conquer death after He was crucified, so He knows what it's like down here.

Why would he need to conquer death if he created it?

Good point. Unless it is claimed that Satan created it.

[New Emeline]

If you can't talk to me in a civilized manner, then don't talk to me at all. I have had this problem with you before, it needs to stop.

Easily. Avoidable... right, sure, you get back to me when you present an easy alternative, also, Basic. Cellular. Mechanisms. Are you ... I mean... what? There so ridiculously complicated, beyond anything that man, and the very limit at which nature can operate! Basic. Cellular... That's how I know you know nothing, because someone who knows, does not call Cellular machinery: "Basic". Yeah, it's basic... gosh I wonder why its taken us 50 years to just scratch the surface of this "Basic" thing. Ughhh.

And the major attitude problem continues unabated. There is no excuse for it. I asked you to stop, and you doubled down. Consider yourself ignored. If you cannot debate with me in a civil manner, then you won't debate with me at all.

Why would he need to conquer death if he created it?

Good point. Unless it is claimed that Satan created it.

Besides, basic doesn't mean easy to figure out...

[The New California Republic]

And the major attitude problem continues unabated. There is no excuse for it. I asked you to stop, and you doubled down. Consider yourself ignored. If you cannot debate with me in a civil manner, then you won't debate with me at all.

Besides, basic doesn't mean easy to figure out...

Sure, that too. But to be honest I am done debating with him. You can carry it on if you want, but I'm done.

[Godular]

If you can't talk to me in a civilized manner, then don't talk to me at all. I have had this problem with you before, it needs to stop.

Easily. Avoidable... right, sure, you get back to me when you present an easy alternative, also, Basic. Cellular. Mechanisms. Are you ... I mean... what? There so ridiculously complicated, beyond anything that man, and the very limit at which nature can operate! Basic. Cellular... That's how I know you know nothing, because someone who knows, does not call Cellular machinery: "Basic". Yeah, it's basic... gosh I wonder why its taken us 50 years to just scratch the surface of this "Basic" thing. Ughhh.

And the major attitude problem continues unabated. There is no excuse for it. I asked you to stop, and you doubled down. Consider yourself ignored. If you cannot debate with me in a civil manner, then you won't debate with me at all.

Why would he need to conquer death if he created it?

Good point. Unless it is claimed that Satan created it.

God created Satan, so... still his responsibility.

[The New California Republic]

God created Satan, so... still his responsibility.

Yup. That always bothered me as well, if God really is omnipotent, why didn't he just destroy Satan as soon as he rebelled against him? Was God having an off day, or feeling generous perhaps?

[Godular]

And the major attitude problem continues unabated. There is no excuse for it. I asked you to stop, and you doubled down. Consider yourself ignored. If you cannot debate with me in a civil manner, then you won't debate with me at all.


Good point. Unless it is claimed that Satan created it.

Besides, basic doesn't mean easy to figure out...

One only needs to look at the surface of Evo Devo to recognize that basic rules can have very complicated results. Hell, that’s how ALL science works.

[New Emeline]

Besides, basic doesn't mean easy to figure out...

One only needs to look at the surface of Evo Devo to recognize that basic rules can have very complicated results. Hell, that’s how ALL science works.

That's heathen speak

[Godular]

God created Satan, so... still his responsibility.

Yup. That always bothered me as well, if God really is omnipotent, why didn't he just destroy Satan as soon as he rebelled against him? Was God having an off day, or feeling generous perhaps?

The only viable answer is the devil’s working under orders.

[The New California Republic]

Yup. That always bothered me as well, if God really is omnipotent, why didn't he just destroy Satan as soon as he rebelled against him? Was God having an off day, or feeling generous perhaps?

The only viable answer is the devil’s working under orders.

There was a time when Christians would burn us at the stake for claiming that God is in cahoots with Satan.

[Godular]

The only viable answer is the devil’s working under orders.

There was a time when Christians would burn us at the stake for claiming that God is in cahoots with Satan.

Well, that would technically be incorrect as it implies that God is the one taking orders.

No, Satan is in cahoots with God.

As we all know, the phrasing is critical... even taking imperfect translations into account because reasons!

[The New California Republic]

There was a time when Christians would burn us at the stake for claiming that God is in cahoots with Satan.

Well, that would technically be incorrect as it implies that God is the one taking orders.

No, Satan is in cahoots with God.

As we all know, the phrasing is critical... even taking imperfect translations into account because reasons!

Meh. We are talking about fictional characters from a story book anyway, so I won't lose too much sleep over it.

[Valrifell]

Well, that would technically be incorrect as it implies that God is the one taking orders.

No, Satan is in cahoots with God.

As we all know, the phrasing is critical... even taking imperfect translations into account because reasons!

Meh. We are talking about fictional characters from a story book anyway, so I won't lose too much sleep over it.

Religions and mythologies are bit more interesting than "fictional characters from a storybook" even though that's technically what they are.

[The New California Republic]

Meh. We are talking about fictional characters from a story book anyway, so I won't lose too much sleep over it.

Religions and mythologies are bit more interesting than "fictional characters from a storybook" even though that's technically what they are.

Just as an aside, I actually find the Arthurian legends to be infinitely more interesting than the Biblical ones.

[Godular]

Meh. We are talking about fictional characters from a story book anyway, so I won't lose too much sleep over it.

Religions and mythologies are bit more interesting than "fictional characters from a storybook" even though that's technically what they are.

Not really. I find it eminently more entertaining when somebody tells a good story that keeps things realistic... a particularly hard feat in sci-fi.

[Albrenia]

Whoa...

Does this make Star Wars Prequels the OT or the NT?

[New Emeline]

Whoa...

Does this make Star Wars Prequels the OT or the NT?

OT, right?

[Albrenia]

Whoa...

Does this make Star Wars Prequels the OT or the NT?

OT, right?

That's what I'd go with, what with the less likeable characters, earlier timeline and nonsensical explanations.

[New Emeline]

OT, right?

That's what I'd go with, what with the less likeable characters, earlier timeline and nonsensical explanations.

Does that mean Luke is Jesus?

[Valrifell]

Religions and mythologies are bit more interesting than "fictional characters from a storybook" even though that's technically what they are.

Not really. I find it eminently more entertaining when somebody tells a good story that keeps things realistic... a particularly hard feat in sci-fi.

That's just preference, I think. But I also find the whole concept of ritualistic faith to be really interesting.

[Albrenia]

That's what I'd go with, what with the less likeable characters, earlier timeline and nonsensical explanations.

Does that mean Luke is Jesus?

Skywalker... walk on water... rain falls from the sky... rain is water.

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW

[New Emeline]

Does that mean Luke is Jesus?

Skywalker... walk on water... rain falls from the sky... rain is water.

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW

Wait, so who's God? Is the Force equivalent to God?