Possible war with Syria?

[HR Manager]

This is an internet forum where people exceed the normal boundaries of sane political opinions because their hobby is politics rather than a genuine concern. Muh moral dootee to commit war crimes is a common theme.

[Sharania]

Yes, yes Trump is a Russian tool.

A pawn.

We gave them an Ottoman slap. We've already killed lots of little green men. Uncle Sam, John Bull and Pierre did their parts.

You mean the one Pompeo (POMPEO!) bragged about in order to pass the job interview? Whateve happened back then it was a wasted opportunity. Putin was running for re-"election". Showing the whole world the live feed of what happened, show Russians the bodies of their "green men" would have damaged Putin without doubt. Instead Pompeo and the likes play coy and brag about what appears as virtual - not real! - victory over Russia. Why? Is he told by his new boss to be silent? In that case he is complicit in this conspiracy.

Syria isn't worth more effort than that. That's what the Turks and Israelis are for.

“Ottoman slap”? Just more empty right-wing rah-rah rhetoric from you, TEM II. Turkey? Israel? They won’t do anything to topple Assad. At. All.

Btw – when will you muster enough courage and apologize before me and admit before everyone how wrong you were by slandering me as a “Russian”?

[Purpelia]

I'm unsettled by the number of people disappointed at war not breaking out.

I don't want war any more than the next person. However you and I both know for a fact that war is not going to happen. If it did not happen in Korea where one side had a huge advantage of having atomic weapons and the other basically not having them it's not going to happen now. Neither side is that stupid. And the cold war showed that without a shadow of a doubt.

What's happening here is great powers jostling for world domination and hegemony. And the worst possible outcome for all of us not living in Russia or america is either wining. Either. When the world is balanced between multiple great powers no single power is in a position where it can abuse the entire planet mercilessly. We saw this sort of thing in the 90's with america, but also back when the British empire dominated most of the world. And before that with Rome. Every empire, once it becomes triumphant starts raping the world around it.

So it is imperative for the benefit of world peace that america not win this so that Russia can reassert it self as a viable competitor. That way we can have a balance of power again.

[Sharania]

I am deeply disappointed by the lack of a proportional Russian response. The least they could have done is attack the OTAN forces doing this. How hard is it to paint some of your fighter jets and AA units in Syrian colors? It was done in Korea after all.

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I'm really disturbed that people like you express their desire to attack NATO forces (living people, btw) so... giddily.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Unnecessary high stakes brinkmanship did not immediately lead to war; all political leaders involved to get medals.

[Imperium Centralium]

I am deeply disappointed by the lack of a proportional Russian response. The least they could have done is attack the OTAN forces doing this. How hard is it to paint some of your fighter jets and AA units in Syrian colors? It was done in Korea after all.

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I'm really disturbed that people like you express their desire to attack NATO forces (living people, btw) so... giddily.

being human beans is probably the least of any military concern

[Albrenia]

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I'm really disturbed that people like you express their desire to attack NATO forces (living people, btw) so... giddily.

being human beans is probably the least of any military concern

Mmmm... beans.

[Purpelia]

I am deeply disappointed by the lack of a proportional Russian response. The least they could have done is attack the OTAN forces doing this. How hard is it to paint some of your fighter jets and AA units in Syrian colors? It was done in Korea after all.

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I'm really disturbed that people like you express their desire to attack NATO forces (living people, btw) so... giddily.

And the people of Syria aren't living people? And not just the ones OTAN kills but all the women and children and babies murdered by rebels every day as Assad is being thwarted from defeating them. And the countless ones that will die if either world power becomes dominant. Or have you forgotten Iraq? Afghanistan? Yugoslavia? The arab spring, all of it?

I am a pacifist and abhor killing. But even I have to draw a line somewhere. And I am willing to sacrifice a few soldiers for the greater good of humanity.
And the worst possible thing for human kind is a single power hegemony.

[HR Manager]

I'm unsettled by the number of people disappointed at war not breaking out.

I don't want war any more than the next person. However you and I both know for a fact that war is not going to happen. If it did not happen in Korea where one side had a huge advantage of having atomic weapons and the other basically not having them it's not going to happen now. Neither side is that stupid. And the cold war showed that without a shadow of a doubt.

What's happening here is great powers jostling for world domination and hegemony. And the worst possible outcome for all of us not living in Russia or america is either wining. Either. When the world is balanced between multiple great powers no single power is in a position where it can abuse the entire planet mercilessly. We saw this sort of thing in the 90's with america, but also back when the British empire dominated most of the world. And before that with Rome. Every empire, once it becomes triumphant starts raping the world around it.

So it is imperative for the benefit of world peace that america not win this so that Russia can reassert it self as a viable competitor. That way we can have a balance of power again.

Uh, war did actually happen in Korea, and it's a war that's dragged on for what, 60 years now and resulted in the deaths of millions of innocents? You're insane. Especially with all this "it sucks that Russia didn't paint their jet fighters Syrian colors and start WW3" crap

[Albrenia]

This is going to make the World Cup very awkward.

[Vassenor]

So what happened to Trump's insistence that the President must get congressional approval before launching any strikes?

[Purpelia]

Uh, war did actually happen in Korea, and it's a war that's dragged on for what, 60 years now and resulted in the deaths of millions of innocents? You're insane. Especially with all this "it sucks that Russia didn't paint their jet fighters Syrian colors and start WW3" crap

Last time I checked atomic bombs were not exchanged and Soviet tanks were not rolling down Champs-Élysées whilst american bombers blanket the skies over Russia with atomic mushroom clouds.

What happened in Korea was infinitely preferable to WW3. And is a demonstration that WW3 can newer and will newer happen. Because if there was one point in history where it really could have happened, when one side really did have a massive advantage and knew it, it was than. And they still did not go for it.

WW3 is impossible. Plain and simple.

[Albrenia]

WW3 is impossible. Plain and simple.

I wish you were correct. It's not impossible though, it's just rather unlikely.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Uh, war did actually happen in Korea, and it's a war that's dragged on for what, 60 years now and resulted in the deaths of millions of innocents? You're insane. Especially with all this "it sucks that Russia didn't paint their jet fighters Syrian colors and start WW3" crap

Last time I checked atomic bombs were not exchanged and Soviet tanks were not rolling down Champs-Élysées whilst american bombers blanket the skies over Russia with atomic mushroom clouds.

What happened in Korea was infinitely preferable to WW3. And is a demonstration that WW3 can newer and will newer happen. Because if there was one point in history where it really could have happened, when one side really did have a massive advantage and knew it, it was than. And they still did not go for it.

WW3 is impossible. Plain and simple.

We were quite literally seconds away from WW3 in 1995.

[Kaiserholt]

I notice that the poll does not include the "We passed the 1925 Geneva Protocol because use of chemical weapons is recognized as unacceptable in a civilized society." Perhaps someone would like to direct me to the best poll option.

To be quite blunt, my only question is whether or not chemical weapons are used. Full stop, do not pass Go, do not collect. Whether Assad used chemical weapons, or whether it was the rebels...civilization's only question should be "were they used?" And if they indeed were, that leads you to the next logical question...

...does anyone even care that chemical weapons are being used? If so, how much do you care? Enough to actually act upon the violation of a Geneva Protocol?

Or is the enforcement of the 1925 Geneva Protocol too inconvenient? Meant for more civilized times?

[Bombadil]

It took time to organise a limited strike in Syria.. it's hardly as if the Russians are all geared up to respond.. and frankly there's zero benefit to them doing so. They can shout and bang shoes at the UN and that's probably what they'll do.

There is a huge benefit to doing so because there is a huge loss to not doing so.

Fundamentally what is playing out here is a proxy war between america and Russia. And the purpose of such a war is to discredit the other side on the world stage. Every time Putin allows americans to bomb Syria he is allowing them to send a message to the world saying that Russia is incapable of defending its allies. And that's a huge hit to Russian reputation and thus their ability to make and maintain their allies.

It's basically the same thing as how if Putin started bombing the Baltic nations america would have to bomb back. Not because there is any possible gain to be had from protecting them but because the cost of not protecting them is OTAN falling apart.

I believe Russia said it would ensure Syria didn't use chemical weapons, Syria did.. all it would take is for Syria to not use chemical weapons.

Their are multiple corroborated accounts of helicopters dropping barrels.. it's not really up for debate, and the response was to target chemical weapons facilities..

..so, you know, if Russia doesn't want to be embarrassed on the world stage then keep your promises and keep your allies in check.

This is going to make the World Cup very awkward.

Probably Russia's best bet, wait a month or so then cancel the World Cup.. literally take the ball home.

[Vassenor]

Last time I checked atomic bombs were not exchanged and Soviet tanks were not rolling down Champs-Élysées whilst american bombers blanket the skies over Russia with atomic mushroom clouds.

What happened in Korea was infinitely preferable to WW3. And is a demonstration that WW3 can newer and will newer happen. Because if there was one point in history where it really could have happened, when one side really did have a massive advantage and knew it, it was than. And they still did not go for it.

WW3 is impossible. Plain and simple.

We were quite literally seconds away from WW3 in 1995.

And then again in 1999.

[The East Marches II]

Yes, yes Trump is a Russian tool.

A pawn.

We gave them an Ottoman slap. We've already killed lots of little green men. Uncle Sam, John Bull and Pierre did their parts.

You mean the one Pompeo (POMPEO!) bragged about in order to pass the job interview? Whateve happened back then it was a wasted opportunity. Putin was running for re-"election". Showing the whole world the live feed of what happened, show Russians the bodies of their "green men" would have damaged Putin without doubt. Instead Pompeo and the likes play coy and brag about what appears as virtual - not real! - victory over Russia. Why? Is he told by his new boss to be silent? In that case he is complicit in this conspiracy.

Syria isn't worth more effort than that. That's what the Turks and Israelis are for.

“Ottoman slap”? Just more empty right-wing rah-rah rhetoric from you, TEM II. Turkey? Israel? They won’t do anything to topple Assad. At. All.

Btw – when will you muster enough courage and apologize before me and admit before everyone how wrong you were by slandering me as a “Russian”?

Aren't you an admitted Ivan? You certainly talk like that other one we have here, Shofercia.

The pro-tip here Sharania is we figured out how to stop the green men, you kill them. We don't need to satisfy your desire for gore pics by making them public. The Ivans got their shit pushed in, job done.

See it's stuff like "TEM II" that makes me think you are Russian. That and literally half your posts contain the word Russia in them.

As for the Ottoman slap, that's a fantastic term. That's what we did, slapped Assad around, showed him who's boss. Ez pz no need to do more. Even John Bull and Pierre gave him a few.

[Sharania]

Aren't you an admitted Ivan? You certainly talk like that other one we have here, Shofercia.

Oh. My. Let me remind you of something, TEM II. Next, I once again demand your public apology followed by you admitting of slandering me.

The pro-tip here Sharania is we figured out how to stop the green men, you kill them. We don't need to satisfy your desire for gore pics by making them public. The Ivans got their shit pushed in, job done.

Yes... and after that Trump (who-is-totally-not-a-Russian-tool) said "time to pull out". And after THAT Erdogan took Afrin. 4d chess?

See it's stuff like "TEM II" that makes me think you are Russian. That and literally half your posts contain the word Russia in them.

You have a picture of the murderous dictator and the enemy of America who ended his days shitting himself while hanged. One might think all sorts of things about you, TEM II. Some of them might turn out to be true. Now - I'm giving you an opportunity to apologize.

As for the Ottoman slap, that's a fantastic term. That's what we did, slapped Assad around, showed him who's boss. Ez pz no need to do more. Even John Bull and Pierre gave him a few.

Ottomans - the dynasty - are dead and gone.

[The New Orders Empire]

I think the core problem here is not Terrorism or an evil Dictator. It is hunger for Power and the Teachings of Religion. The West used the world to produce his Wares cheaply and made the lifes of thousands misrable. So the only hope people find is a religion, that uses thier core teachings as an excuse to kill and destroy. The Problem is not extremism. When your beliefs are, for example, pacifism go as extrem as you want. That makes religion the Problem. It's basicly Santa for Adults. We have to outgrow this nonsense. So i think, yes there will be War. A War between free rational People and Religion and i think Syria is the Beginning of it.

[Costa Fierro]

WW3 is impossible. Plain and simple.

I wish you were correct. It's not impossible though, it's just rather unlikely.

It would require an extraordinary set of circumstances to occur. Those circumstances aren't present.

[Durin VII]

I'm unsettled by the number of people disappointed at war not breaking out.

Like a Russian response would have caused a war...

[Bombadil]

I'm unsettled by the number of people disappointed at war not breaking out.

Like a Russian response would have caused a war...

What action would you see happening exactly?

[Vassenor]

I'm unsettled by the number of people disappointed at war not breaking out.

Like a Russian response would have caused a war...

Remember, only no-fly zones cause wars.

[Albrenia]

I wish you were correct. It's not impossible though, it's just rather unlikely.

It would require an extraordinary set of circumstances to occur. Those circumstances aren't present.

Thankfully.