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War with Syria?

1-This an attempt by war Hawks to trigger a war, to demonstrate American military might.
57
12%
2-This is an attempt by the military industrial complex to make money with another war.
93
19%
3-This is an attempt to engage in a proxy war with Russia.
77
16%
4-This is an attempt to trigger a war with Russia.
34
7%
5-Assad is merely evil, and it is our moral duty to take him out.
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21%
6-Assad is evil, but we should stay out of the conflict.
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24%
 
Total votes : 480

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:44 am

Aulus Maximus wrote:
Thermodolia wrote: Remember this is according to the Russians. They are probably just saying that to make it look like the US and Co failed

No casualties have been confirmed by all sides.

I’m not talking about the no casualties part but the part that the facilities haven’t been used since 2013
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Postby Roberto Luongo » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:44 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Because he’s Trump? He picks stupid things to be pissed about? Don’t know why thats news to some people.

We aren’t in a war. And serving in the military isn’t a requirement to go to war

If we aren't in a war, then why are American troops in various countries fighting various armed groups?


Hopefully, they will withdraw soon. I think that's the plan.

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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:44 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Because he’s Trump? He picks stupid things to be pissed about? Don’t know why thats news to some people.

We aren’t in a war. And serving in the military isn’t a requirement to go to war

If we aren't in a war, then why are American troops in various countries fighting various armed groups?

America has been continuously at war for the last 30 years

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:45 am

Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:And that detracts from my post how? It means absolutely nothing

The electoral college is biased towards lower-population states, aka Republican states.

It still means jackshit. No matter your issues with the EC it elects the President therefore the “will of the people” or the popular vote means nothing
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:46 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Because he’s Trump? He picks stupid things to be pissed about? Don’t know why thats news to some people.

We aren’t in a war. And serving in the military isn’t a requirement to go to war

If we aren't in a war, then why are American troops in various countries fighting various armed groups?

Police actions apparently
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Postby Roberto Luongo » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:46 am

Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:If we aren't in a war, then why are American troops in various countries fighting various armed groups?

America has been continuously at war for the last 30 years


They have the duty to be the "global policeman", just as they have been since 1945.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:47 am

Thermodolia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:And?

He still lost it and if it meant jackshit then why does Trump make a big stink about the supposed four million "Illegal" voters?

He is leading his country to war despite chickening out of Vietnam.

Because he’s Trump? He picks stupid things to be pissed about? Don’t know why thats news to some people.

We aren’t in a war. And serving in the military isn’t a requirement to go to war

If he is pissed about it, despite it not mattering, doesn't it not gain merit?


Launching air strikes and missiles,with special forces on the ground? Yeah that's war.

It isn't, but it looks mighty hypocritical to send others to war when you are not willing to do the same.

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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:47 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:The electoral college is biased towards lower-population states, aka Republican states.

It still means jackshit. No matter your issues with the EC it elects the President therefore the “will of the people” or the popular vote means nothing

At least here in the UK we have a slightly less crappy electoral system

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Postby Aulus Maximus » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:48 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Aulus Maximus wrote:No casualties have been confirmed by all sides.

I’m not talking about the no casualties part but the part that the facilities haven’t been used since 2013

OPCW declared the SAA chemical depots to be fully destroyed and no more chemical agents to be in hands of the SAA in 2016.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:49 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Because he’s Trump? He picks stupid things to be pissed about? Don’t know why thats news to some people.

We aren’t in a war. And serving in the military isn’t a requirement to go to war

If he is pissed about it, despite it not mattering, doesn't it not gain merit?


Launching air strikes and missiles,with special forces on the ground? Yeah that's war.

It isn't, but it looks mighty hypocritical to send others to war when you are not willing to do the same.

It might be a war to you but it’s not legally a war. It’s a police action
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:49 am

Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It still means jackshit. No matter your issues with the EC it elects the President therefore the “will of the people” or the popular vote means nothing

At least here in the UK we have a slightly less crappy electoral system

Congratulations. Woo hoo
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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:50 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:At least here in the UK we have a slightly less crappy electoral system

Congratulations. Woo hoo

Well, it's still crappy. Single transferable vote FTW

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:50 am

Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It still means jackshit. No matter your issues with the EC it elects the President therefore the “will of the people” or the popular vote means nothing

At least here in the UK we have a slightly less crappy electoral system


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Postby Roberto Luongo » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:50 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:At least here in the UK we have a slightly less crappy electoral system

Congratulations. Woo hoo


Why is Brexit still happening, though? I mean, with better electoral system, better leaders should be chosen.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:51 am

Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Congratulations. Woo hoo

Well, it's still crappy. Single transferable vote FTW

Eww no. PR system is best system
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:51 am

Roberto Luongo wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Congratulations. Woo hoo


Why is Brexit still happening, though? I mean, with better electoral system, better leaders should be chosen.

Hahahahah
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Postby Hakons » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:51 am

Aulus Maximus wrote:
Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:3 civilians were wounded

Cheers for the headsup, I'm amazed by the low amount of casualties still.


That was by design. The U.S. military chose low personnel targets and attacked in the early morning to minimize casualties. The targets were stockpiles and infrastructure.
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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:51 am

Roberto Luongo wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Congratulations. Woo hoo


Why is Brexit still happening, though? I mean, with better electoral system, better leaders should be chosen.

The referendum was just full of scaremongering. Thanks UKIP, now we're all fucked because of you!!!

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:53 am

Thermodolia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:If he is pissed about it, despite it not mattering, doesn't it not gain merit?


Launching air strikes and missiles,with special forces on the ground? Yeah that's war.

It isn't, but it looks mighty hypocritical to send others to war when you are not willing to do the same.

It might be a war to you but it’s not legally a war. It’s a police action



If it looks like a war, sounds like a war and, people die in it like a war. it's probably a war.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:53 am

Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:
Roberto Luongo wrote:
Why is Brexit still happening, though? I mean, with better electoral system, better leaders should be chosen.

The referendum was just full of scaremongering. Thanks UKIP, now we're all fucked because of you!!!

They probably did you a favor tbh. The EU probably won’t exist in the next five years
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Postby Roberto Luongo » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:53 am

Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:
Roberto Luongo wrote:
Why is Brexit still happening, though? I mean, with better electoral system, better leaders should be chosen.

The referendum was just full of scaremongering. Thanks UKIP, now we're all fucked because of you!!!


R.I.P. your nation.

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Postby Aulus Maximus » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:53 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:The referendum was just full of scaremongering. Thanks UKIP, now we're all fucked because of you!!!

They probably did you a favor tbh. The EU probably won’t exist in the next five years

Success breeds jealousy.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:54 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It might be a war to you but it’s not legally a war. It’s a police action



If it looks like a war, sounds like a war and, people die in it like a war. it's probably a war.

Doesn’t actually work in this situation dude. It can’t be a war without congressional approval otherwise it’s police action.
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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:54 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:The referendum was just full of scaremongering. Thanks UKIP, now we're all fucked because of you!!!

They probably did you a favor tbh. The EU probably won’t exist in the next five years

Brexit set the whole powder keg of Euroscepticism off

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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:54 am

Thermodolia wrote:

Doesn’t actually work in this situation dude. It can’t be a war without congressional approval otherwise it’s police action.

It's a war de facto

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